I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a garage
ceiling. It'll be
fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't want
to do is use drywall
screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label warning
not to use
them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that look
like drywall screws,
but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
source for mild-steel
flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great but
I don't know
if they're "snappable" or not.

Quickly, what I use most of the time, for cabinet making, is only weather
plated deck screws, I buy them by the pound at Home Hardware (Canada).
Their price is around $3.50 CAD per pound. It is not worth it for me to buy
them on the internet and pay shipping.
In ten years these screws have not rusted on my wooden deck yet.
The density of the wood you are going to use plays a large part on the type
of screw you are going to use.
Hardwood, need to have a pilot hole prior to driving the screw. When using
softwood and sometime hardwood for structural purposes I drill through and
use carriage bolts. When I use MDF and sometime plywood I prefer to use
metal screws because it offers more threads than the conventional wood
screws. As for boat building or any work to be used in the water I only use
the best SS fasteners.
I have used screws like the one you described as black looking like drywall.
The one I bought ($2.00 per pound) had a Robertson head and under moderate
to strong torque they were snapping. Plus my hands got all black.


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I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a garage
ceiling. It'll be
fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't want
to do is use drywall
screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label warning
not to use
them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that look
like drywall screws,
but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
source for mild-steel
flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great but
I don't know
if they're "snappable" or not.

(in
) said:

| I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a
| garage ceiling. It'll be
| fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't
| want to do is use drywall
| screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label
| warning not to use
| them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that
| look like drywall screws,
| but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
| source for mild-steel
| flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great
| but I don't know
| if they're "snappable" or not.

You might find one of my projects of interest...

My garage is more or less a 10-1/2'-wide stall in a long row of poured
concrete garages. I set a 2x6 across the backs of the side walls - and
proceeded to use my (then) brand new Kreg jig to build a suspended
wall (of 2x4's) down to and even with the top of my work bench. The
top half carries wall-to-wall doorless cabinets with adjustable
shelves and the bottom half is covered with pegboard for tools. The
cabinets are used for everything from house paint to auto parts; and
the pegboard holds most of the hand tools I keep at home. When I built
it, I thought it'd be a good test for pocket joinery.

It's been rock solid for five or six years now - and isn't showing any
sign of weakening.

It might be worthwhile to consider using pocket joinery and Kreg or
McFeely washer head screws.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

SFWIW. since fasteners are such a small part of the total cost of a
project, I use coarse thread S/S self tapping sheet sheet metal screws
unless there is a specific reason not to use them.

Lew

I like the self tapping sheet sheet metal screws. I would use them all the
time too. But Stainless Steel fasteners are expensive in Canada. I have
learned that on the market you can find cheap S/S but believe or not when
use close the sea they do rust.
A good test is to use a magnet and if it slightly pull the SS fasteners, to
me, it means that its not first quality.
On the other hand when I buy 316SS fasteners they do not rust but they cost
much more. So I only use SS fasteners for boat building, repair and
nautical installations



"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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SFWIW. since fasteners are such a small part of the total cost of a
project, I use coarse thread S/S self tapping sheet sheet metal screws
unless there is a specific reason not to use them.

Lew

Further to Lew's posting concerning SS screws I have made a little research.
I have learned that the cost of the average SS deck screw is $26.00 USD
compared to $3.50 CAD.
At Hamilton Marine http://www.hamiltonmarine.com/ they advertised the SS
deck screw for around $12.00 USD per pound plus shipping.

wrote in message
...
I like the self tapping sheet sheet metal screws. I would use them all the
time too. But Stainless Steel fasteners are expensive in Canada. I have
learned that on the market you can find cheap S/S but believe or not when
use close the sea they do rust.
A good test is to use a magnet and if it slightly pull the SS fasteners,
to me, it means that its not first quality.
On the other hand when I buy 316SS fasteners they do not rust but they
cost much more. So I only use SS fasteners for boat building, repair and
nautical installations



"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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SFWIW. since fasteners are such a small part of the total cost of a
project, I use coarse thread S/S self tapping sheet sheet metal screws
unless there is a specific reason not to use them.

Lew

wrote:

I like the self tapping sheet sheet metal screws. I would use them
all the
time too. But Stainless Steel fasteners are expensive in Canada. I
have
learned that on the market you can find cheap S/S but believe or not
when
use close the sea they do rust.
A good test is to use a magnet and if it slightly pull the SS
fasteners, to
me, it means that its not first quality.
On the other hand when I buy 316SS fasteners they do not rust but
they cost
much more. So I only use SS fasteners for boat building, repair and
nautical installations

The magnet test is quite revealing.

If I can get them use 316, if not will settle for 304 AKA: 18-8, but
that's it.

The operative words are "stain" & "less".

Take a look at the pots and pans in the kitchen. They are 304(18-8) and
will pit.

Lew

On 1 Dec 2006 18:35:13 -0800, "
wrote:

I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a garage
ceiling. It'll be
fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't want
to do is use drywall
screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label warning
not to use
them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that look
like drywall screws,
but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
source for mild-steel
flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great but
I don't know
if they're "snappable" or not.


You're wise to avoid the typical drywall screw.
As Morris indicated, KREG makes a much better quality screw.
And, McFeelys.....http://www.mcfeelys.com/
has everything you could possibly imagine.

I'd like to give another nod to mcfeeley's.

Their quality is excellent. Make the switch to square drive and you will
never go back. They a truely a better mousetrap.

-Steve



"Joe Bemier" wrote in message
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On 1 Dec 2006 18:35:13 -0800, "
wrote:

I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a garage
ceiling. It'll be
fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't want
to do is use drywall
screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label warning
not to use
them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that look
like drywall screws,
but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
source for mild-steel
flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great but
I don't know
if they're "snappable" or not.


You're wise to avoid the typical drywall screw.
As Morris indicated, KREG makes a much better quality screw.
And, McFeelys.....http://www.mcfeelys.com/
has everything you could possibly imagine.

On 1 Dec 2006 18:35:13 -0800, "
wrote:

I have to make a storage cabinet which will be suspended from a garage
ceiling. It'll be
fifteen feet long and quite heavy. One thing I definitely don't want
to do is use drywall
screws in the construction; some brands even come with a label warning
not to use
them in shear strength situations. I've seen screws in bulk that look
like drywall screws,
but fatter, for wood applications. What I'd like to find is a good
source for mild-steel
flat head wood screws on the internet. Those GRK screws are great but
I don't know
if they're "snappable" or not.


I'd probably use deck screws. But, I'd be concerned about putting
too much weight on a garage ceiling.