How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Peter.

PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Glue and/or screws work well.

In order to give a proper answer we need to know what kind of joints you
intend to make.
Is it a butt joint, a scaft joint or a corner joint. Is your work
structural, esthetical or functional.


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Glue and/or screws work well.

PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Peter.

Go over and sit down by them. ;-)


Sorry, it's getting late in the day...

I want to butt joint two grain printed boards, one 11.5" wide, one 8" wide
and both 6' long. I'm thinking of using biscuits and water borne glue.

Peter.

wrote in message
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In order to give a proper answer we need to know what kind of joints you
intend to make.
Is it a butt joint, a scaft joint or a corner joint. Is your work
structural, esthetical or functional.


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
news
PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Glue and/or screws work well.

You have a nice project.
If this the end use of these two pieces is to be without any load or
pressure, compression, twisting or extension your idea is suitable.
The use of biscuits will not add any strength but will facilitate alignment
of the two pieces. The use of pipe clams every 18 inches with moderate
pressure should remain on overnight on a flat surface. That is one clamp
under and one on top. Insert wood blocks between the clamp and the MDF to
avoid pressure damages. This construction will be as strong as the weakest
link.
Conversely if you want a stronger construction your butt joint should be
re-enforced with back up supports using hardwood stringers or salvaged
hockey sticks running across the two pieces of MDF. These stingers should
be glued and fastened in pre-drilled pilot holes with metal screws of
appropriate length. You may want to countersink the pilot holes in the
stringers for aesthetic purpose. Even if the MDF is not waterproof I would
use an exterior wood glue like Lepage, Titebond or better.


"PVR" wrote in message
...
I want to butt joint two grain printed boards, one 11.5" wide, one 8" wide
and both 6' long. I'm thinking of using biscuits and water borne glue.

Peter.

wrote in message
...
In order to give a proper answer we need to know what kind of joints you
intend to make.
Is it a butt joint, a scaft joint or a corner joint. Is your work
structural, esthetical or functional.


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
news
PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Glue and/or screws work well.

"PVR" wrote in message
...
I want to butt joint two grain printed boards, one 11.5" wide, one 8" wide
and both 6' long. I'm thinking of using biscuits and water borne glue.


You don't say how thick, but given the way MDF or other fine-grain particle
boards swell and stay, I'd go dry biscuits for alignment, and something
other than a water-based glue or sparingly.

Better would be the reverse glue joint type of router bits, though if the
pattern is plastic imprint, you might want to check it on a scrap piece.
Continuous spline is easily enough done, and you could make it a bit deeper
than normal if the joint will be under any kind of stress.

Many thanks for your comments. The use of stringers may be possible because
I am making two cabinets and the stringers could also function as shelf
supports. It seems I have much experimentation to do before I start
construction proper.

Peter.
wrote in message
...
You have a nice project.
If this the end use of these two pieces is to be without any load or
pressure, compression, twisting or extension your idea is suitable.
The use of biscuits will not add any strength but will facilitate
alignment of the two pieces. The use of pipe clams every 18 inches with
moderate pressure should remain on overnight on a flat surface. That is
one clamp under and one on top. Insert wood blocks between the clamp and
the MDF to avoid pressure damages. This construction will be as strong as
the weakest link.
Conversely if you want a stronger construction your butt joint should be
re-enforced with back up supports using hardwood stringers or salvaged
hockey sticks running across the two pieces of MDF. These stingers should
be glued and fastened in pre-drilled pilot holes with metal screws of
appropriate length. You may want to countersink the pilot holes in the
stringers for aesthetic purpose. Even if the MDF is not waterproof I
would use an exterior wood glue like Lepage, Titebond or better.


"PVR" wrote in message
...
I want to butt joint two grain printed boards, one 11.5" wide, one 8" wide
and both 6' long. I'm thinking of using biscuits and water borne glue.

Peter.

wrote in message
...
In order to give a proper answer we need to know what kind of joints you
intend to make.
Is it a butt joint, a scaft joint or a corner joint. Is your work
structural, esthetical or functional.


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
news PVR wrote:
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

Glue and/or screws work well.

"PVR" wrote in message
How do I join particle or MDB boards?

You haven't said how thick the boards are that you're using, but if they're
of sufficient width, you could use these connectors.

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...715,43716&ap=1

The boards are 5/8" and are grain printed. I take your point about using a
non aqueous glue. I thought about using a spline but the grain print surface
might be too delicate to go though my router. Some experiments are in order
before I start construction.

Peter.

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"PVR" wrote in message
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I want to butt joint two grain printed boards, one 11.5" wide, one 8" wide
and both 6' long. I'm thinking of using biscuits and water borne glue.


You don't say how thick, but given the way MDF or other fine-grain
particle boards swell and stay, I'd go dry biscuits for alignment, and
something other than a water-based glue or sparingly.

Better would be the reverse glue joint type of router bits, though if the
pattern is plastic imprint, you might want to check it on a scrap piece.
Continuous spline is easily enough done, and you could make it a bit
deeper than normal if the joint will be under any kind of stress.

"PVR" wrote in message
...
The boards are 5/8" and are grain printed. I take your point about using a
non aqueous glue. I thought about using a spline but the grain print
surface might be too delicate to go though my router. Some experiments are
in order before I start construction.

Use a slot cutter and either slick your router specially fine to avoid
scratches, or doublestick the visible surface TIGHTLY to a piece of ply
and pass the router over that. Or that past the table-mounted router, but
I'd say your dimensions favor the former.

Make sure the doublestick doesn't lift the pattern.