My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com


I have a right angle Makita that I got in 1983 and the battery still works
for a little while. I have had a Panasonic, 2 different DeWalt's and Now
use a Makita.

The Panasonic was the Cadillac but liked the DeWalt and like the Makita.
You might watch for the "buy a drill and get an impact driver for free
deal", or visa versa. I bought my 12v Makita Impact 2 years ago for about
$200 and sent for the free drill. If you have one of the impact drivers you
really don't need over 9.6 or 12 volt. The impact drivers are usually 5 to
6 times stronger than their "sister same voltage" drills.
The new Lithium Ion batteries look promising but are more pricey.

We have a Bosch 14.4 we use a minmum of 5 days a week in both our
businesses. It is about 4 years old now. I would buy one again. I think we
paid around $150.00.


cm

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"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

Stoutman wrote:
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

Batteries don't just have a certain number of cycles, time kills them
too. I've never had a battery last for more than about 6 years or so
before the run time got too low to be useful. So resist the urge to
buy the biggest, baddest, drill with the best specs and all that.
Unlike your corded drill, your cordless tools are somewhat
"disposable". The price of two batteries will almost buy you a whole
new kit; so when the batteries die, most people start over. Go down to
the local Borg and hold several in you hands. Pick the one that feels
best if it comes from Panasonic, Bosch, Dewalt, Hitachi, Makita,
Milwaukee, or Ridgid, (did I leave anybody out?) but NOT Craftsman or
Ryobi.

The only caveat to that is Ridgid. I dont' own any Ridgid power tools,
but I'd give very serious consideration to Ridgid cordless because they
warranty the BATTERIES TOO for life. Be sure to save all the receips,
UPC codes etc. required to use the warranty, because the batteries WILL
die someday.

I'm on cordless drill number five, and I own three that still work at
least a while. My favorite is a 12 volt Milwaukee T-handle with the
battery that hangs out front, under the trigger. It's the best
balanced and most comfortable drill I've ever used.

DonkeyHody
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." - Edmund Burke

I second the previous posters idea of Ridgid. I recently picked up a 5
tool 18V combo kit for $269 (Ill explain later). I *had* a 14.4V
Milwaukee hammer drill that I loved......used it for absolutely
everything I could. But the batteries were terrible. Even new, they
would work a while then just no longer have any good runtime. I went
so far as purchasing the triple-bay charger (apparently the single-bay
charger wasnt "smart" and the batteries would end up undercharged or
fried from the charger). The triple-bay helped the issue a little, but
I still get somewhat short runtimes.

The Ridgid set is perfect, because of the lifetime service agreement.
It might not be the easiest way to get stuff fixed/replaced (either
send it to a service center, or drive it to one nearest you), but there
is a standard 3 year warranty on everything before the lifetime even
kicks in......in those 3 years, bring back to HD, walk out with a
replacement. Ive used every piece of it except the recip saw. The
drill is suprisingly heavy duty.......I was figuring I would be let
down coming from the "Big Red", but Im pretty impressed with the Ridgid
so far. A couple things bother me (harder to use the directional
switch than the Milwaukee, and the cluthc is a little noisy when in
high speed), but definitely worth the $$$.

If you can find them, there are 2 combo kits on "clearance". One
(model R9212) is 209.00, the other (model R9222) is 269.00. The more
xpensive one comes with the recip saw, the cheaper one does not. They
are covered under the lifetime warranty ocne you register them. The
drill alone costs more than that. Ridgid also now has the 24V LithIon
tools, if you wanted to go that route.

Good luck!
-Chris

Stoutman wrote:
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

You might want to reconsider the $200 limit. I just purchased one of the new
V18 LI-ion batteries and chargers from Milwaukee. I know that it is a fair
bit lighter than than my old 18v NiCd and it runs near full power until
dead. (The chart shows a near right angle for power vs. runtime which is
pretty accurate) I am very impressed with it. Also it has a 5 year/ 2000
charge warranty. The hammer drill kit is around $300 and the 4pc. combo kit
with circ saw, sawzall, drill, flashlight, and 2 batteries is around $500.
If you really want something powerful look at the V28 from Milwaukee. I
wanted that but that would mean a sizable investment in new tools. The V18
works with all of their 18v cordless.

Allen


"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

Bosch 14.4 gets my vote

--
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Johnstown, PA

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"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in
m:

My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you
own one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I
assume it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.


My 12v DeWalts have been going for more than 5 years of highly irregular
work habits. I'm a serious hobby guy, in spurts, and may do one major
kitchen or bathroom a year, plus a couple of pieces of furniture, plus the
usual smaller stuff. The batteries don't get a heavy usage, except for a
couple of weeks, when they get hammered pretty good.

I'd buy DeWalt again in a heartbeat.

Patriarch

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

Since you had a 9.6V, you don't need the big honking 24V models that are too
heavy for many chores.

My vote is Panasonic 15.6V. I set out to buy a Bosch, but I picked up the
Panasonic and it just felt right. Plenty of power, good weight and balance,
one hand chuck. It is also 15 ounces lighter than the 18V Bosch I
considered and has longer lasting batteries, 3.5 AH.
http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...7+1162734 027

Stoutman wrote:
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

I picked up a dewalt 14.4 drill this summer (sale at lowes - $80) -
just a regular drill w/ 2 batteries . works great!

shelly

On 4 Nov 2006 15:50:32 -0800, "DonkeyHody"
wrote:

The only caveat to that is Ridgid. I dont' own any Ridgid power tools,
but I'd give very serious consideration to Ridgid cordless because they
warranty the BATTERIES TOO for life. Be sure to save all the receips,
UPC codes etc. required to use the warranty, because the batteries WILL
die someday.

Everything on the Rigid is guaranteed for life. The batteries, the
brushes, the chuck, everything. I don't think there's another company
out there that stands behind their products like that, especially at
that price.

Brian Henderson wrote in
:

On 4 Nov 2006 15:50:32 -0800, "DonkeyHody"
wrote:

The only caveat to that is Ridgid. I dont' own any Ridgid power tools,
but I'd give very serious consideration to Ridgid cordless because they
warranty the BATTERIES TOO for life. Be sure to save all the receips,
UPC codes etc. required to use the warranty, because the batteries WILL
die someday.

Everything on the Rigid is guaranteed for life. The batteries, the
brushes, the chuck, everything. I don't think there's another company
out there that stands behind their products like that, especially at
that price.

Batteries guaranteed for life? Looks like I'm going to the Big Orange
Retail Giant soon. I've been eyeballing Makita, but if Ridgid will
replace the batteries when they die, I'm buying.

Best get two, a 9.6V for light jobs and a 24V for big ones... So little
money, so many hobbies...

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Puckdropper" wrote in message
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Batteries guaranteed for life? Looks like I'm going to the Big Orange
Retail Giant soon. I've been eyeballing Makita, but if Ridgid will
replace the batteries when they die, I'm buying.

Best get two, a 9.6V for light jobs and a 24V for big ones... So little
money, so many hobbies...

You can get an 9.6 impact driver that will likely out perform the 24 volt
drill and also consider that while the Ridgid had an excellent warranty, the
tool may not feel quite right to you. I looked at the Ridgid a couple of
years ago and they were very heavy by comparison. They may be lighter these
days.

Leon,

That is what I like about my Bosch. It feels better in my hand than my
Dewalts, and Makitas.

cm


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"Puckdropper" wrote in message
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Batteries guaranteed for life? Looks like I'm going to the Big Orange
Retail Giant soon. I've been eyeballing Makita, but if Ridgid will
replace the batteries when they die, I'm buying.

Best get two, a 9.6V for light jobs and a 24V for big ones... So little
money, so many hobbies...

You can get an 9.6 impact driver that will likely out perform the 24 volt
drill and also consider that while the Ridgid had an excellent warranty,
the tool may not feel quite right to you. I looked at the Ridgid a couple
of years ago and they were very heavy by comparison. They may be lighter
these days.

In article ,
Brian Henderson wrote:
On 4 Nov 2006 15:50:32 -0800, "DonkeyHody"
wrote:

The only caveat to that is Ridgid. I dont' own any Ridgid power tools,
but I'd give very serious consideration to Ridgid cordless because they
warranty the BATTERIES TOO for life. Be sure to save all the receips,
UPC codes etc. required to use the warranty, because the batteries WILL
die someday.

Everything on the Rigid is guaranteed for life. The batteries, the
brushes, the chuck, everything. I don't think there's another company
out there that stands behind their products like that, especially at
that price.

That's not one of thse fine-print "LIFETIME WARRANTY: guaranteed for
the life of the tool" warranties, is it?



--
Often wrong, never in doubt.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore, Maryland -

wrote in message
...


That's not one of thse fine-print "LIFETIME WARRANTY: guaranteed for
the life of the tool" warranties, is it?

Yes it is and the life time guarantee states that the batteries, charger,
bearings, brushes, hypoid gear oil, etc. are all covered for life.

I'm in the same boat. My 13.2 B&D Firestorm died and I'm getting close to
buying a DeWalt 14.4 XRP. Any reason I shouldn't?

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in message
m...
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:47:06 GMT, "Stoutman" .@. wrote:

My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

My DeWalt 18v came with two batteries. I've been using it heavily
(5-45 hours a week, averaging at least 10-15 per week) for over eight
years. I had to buy a new battery last year, but the old ones will
still each hold a charge for an hour or so- just long enough to
completely recharge the new one. The new one (18v XRP) will run for
about 10 hours on a charge driving screws- a little less for things
like drilling tile or concrete, but that may be due to the fact that
it is not a hammer drill. It also drains faster doing things like
mixing 5-gal buckets of paint or drywall with a mixing wand- but I
don't do that too often (that's a job for an old corded drill.)

AFAIK, the 14v is comparable. $200 will get you a nice drill, to be
sure. The 12v and 9.6v are also fairly popular for chamfering and
deburring holes in metal shops.

There might be better ones, but you won't go wrong with the one you're
looking at.

You will be pleased when you switch to the xrp batteries. Big differendce
ove the old batteries.

cm

"Prometheus" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:47:06 GMT, "Stoutman" .@. wrote:

My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume
it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

My DeWalt 18v came with two batteries. I've been using it heavily
(5-45 hours a week, averaging at least 10-15 per week) for over eight
years. I had to buy a new battery last year, but the old ones will
still each hold a charge for an hour or so- just long enough to
completely recharge the new one. The new one (18v XRP) will run for
about 10 hours on a charge driving screws- a little less for things
like drilling tile or concrete, but that may be due to the fact that
it is not a hammer drill. It also drains faster doing things like
mixing 5-gal buckets of paint or drywall with a mixing wand- but I
don't do that too often (that's a job for an old corded drill.)

AFAIK, the 14v is comparable. $200 will get you a nice drill, to be
sure. The 12v and 9.6v are also fairly popular for chamfering and
deburring holes in metal shops.

There might be better ones, but you won't go wrong with the one you're
looking at.

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:00:05 GMT, "cm"
wrote:

Leon,

That is what I like about my Bosch. It feels better in my hand than my
Dewalts, and Makitas.

cm

There's a lot to that-

I like DeWalt, because I've got big hands, and they've got big grips.
I've seen other guys cringe when picking my drill up (It is a fairly
heavy beast)- and I feel like I might break theirs.

I've have Dewalt 18 and 12 volt units and am happy with both of them.
I can't imagine needing more power than the 18 volt unit. The other
day I put in a fresh battery and the thing almost sprained my wrist. I
like to buy American products when I can, even if they are made in
Mexico...

-Scott

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

You can get an 9.6 impact driver that will likely out perform the 24 volt
drill and also consider that while the Ridgid had an excellent warranty, the
tool may not feel quite right to you. I looked at the Ridgid a couple of
years ago and they were very heavy by comparison. They may be lighter these
days.

While I don't have a lot of Ridgid tools, the ones I've used haven't
felt any different than the tools I do own and when I need to replace
in the future, I'm going to give Ridgid a serious look.

"Stoutman" .@. wrote in
m:

My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you
own one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I
assume it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.


This is a systemic problem with all cordless tools. The general idea is
that the batteries go and when that does the user generally tosses the
whole thing and buys another. As a result the manufacturers love selling
them them because they know the end user will be buying another one in a
few years. Sales stay high, the end user gets fleeced in the long run and
life is great depending on your perspective.

Stoutman wrote:
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do
you own one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I
assume it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

I have a Porter Cable 12V cordless that I bought in 1999. Still working.
Both batteries still take a charge. Since there is no hour meter on it,
can't say how many charges it's had.



--
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R. Pierce Butler wrote:

This is a systemic problem with all cordless tools. The general idea is
that the batteries go and when that does the user generally tosses the
whole thing and buys another. As a result the manufacturers love selling
them them because they know the end user will be buying another one in a
few years.

Looked at Ridgid cordless? As mentioned in another post, if you
register the tool (which is free) you get a lifetime warrenty, including
batteries, brushes, etc.

Chris

"R. Pierce Butler" wrote in message
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This is a systemic problem with all cordless tools. The general idea is
that the batteries go and when that does the user generally tosses the
whole thing and buys another. As a result the manufacturers love selling
them them because they know the end user will be buying another one in a
few years. Sales stay high, the end user gets fleeced in the long run and
life is great depending on your perspective.





I bet the manufacturer would rather see you buy two new batteries for your
drill vs. paying $25-$40 more for a drill case, charger, drill, and two
batteries. If you buy all new, the manufacturer stands the chance of
loosing you to another brand. I have gone from Makita, to Panasonic, to
DeWalt, and back to Makita, because I bought the whole nine yards each time.
Had I only bought two new batteries I would still be with the previous brand
and gotten much less for my money and I strongly suspect the manufacturers
GP would have been higher.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:41:20 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

I bet the manufacturer would rather see you buy two new batteries for your
drill vs. paying $25-$40 more for a drill case, charger, drill, and two
batteries. If you buy all new, the manufacturer stands the chance of
loosing you to another brand. I have gone from Makita, to Panasonic, to
DeWalt, and back to Makita, because I bought the whole nine yards each time.
Had I only bought two new batteries I would still be with the previous brand
and gotten much less for my money and I strongly suspect the manufacturers
GP would have been higher.

I bought a Panasonic set a couple years ago that came with two
batteries and there was a special mail-in offer for a third battery
free. All three batteries still take a full charge with no problem.
It'll probably be a couple more years before I have to start thinking
about replacing anything, but by then, I figure the battery technology
will be so far ahead that it'll be worth it to just replace the whole
set with something more advanced.

I have a Bosch 14.4 that I bought at a tool store here. It's a rental place
that always tells me "throw away the registration card". (you could also
stop in for a beer at this place at around 5:00 or so) After about a 10
months the clutch started slipping, even when put on the drill setting. I
took it in and voila, brand new drill. No paperwork, no hassle. Try doing
that at a Borg store. I like to get stuff from a place that stands behind a
warranty. I've had the replacement now for over 2 years with no problems.

--
Rick Nagy
Johnstown, PA

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"Frank Howell" wrote in message
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Stoutman wrote:
My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no
longer take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do
you own one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I
assume it depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

I have a Porter Cable 12V cordless that I bought in 1999. Still working.
Both batteries still take a charge. Since there is no hour meter on it,
can't say how many charges it's had.



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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:47:06 GMT, "Stoutman" .@. wrote:

My Crapsman cordless drill (9.6V) bit the dust. The battery would no longer
take a charge.

I was at the BORG and was eyeballing the Dewalt 14V (DC728KA). Do you own
one? Can you recommend another comparable one.

I don't want to spend more than $200 Americano.

How much life do you usually get from a cordless drill battery? I assume it
depends on the number of depletions/recharges.

Lots of good advise and recommendations.

I have a Milwaukee 14.4 that I got two years ago. I hung on to my
corded drill with a death grip, but when it finally went to tool
heaven, the Milwaukee was my choice. It came with two battery packs
and had a rebate offer at the time where I could get my choice of
another battery or some other stuff like a pocket knife.

I now have 3 battery packs.

In my case, the smart charger it came with recharges the discharged
battery in one hour completely full. No undercharge, no over charge.

Mine is hobbyist use. Meaning, this drill is going to look new when
those batteries finally give up, as they inevitably will.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:41:20 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

I bet the manufacturer would rather see you buy two new batteries for your
drill vs. paying $25-$40 more for a drill case, charger, drill, and two
batteries. If you buy all new, the manufacturer stands the chance of
loosing you to another brand. I have gone from Makita, to Panasonic, to
DeWalt, and back to Makita, because I bought the whole nine yards each time.
Had I only bought two new batteries I would still be with the previous brand
and gotten much less for my money and I strongly suspect the manufacturers
GP would have been higher.

I'd say that's a strong bet- look at all the sets of cordless tools
that come with more tools than batteries. Sure, you can swap them
around- that's the obvious and most sensible thing to do, but when
those wear out, you have to decide between buying a new battery or
two, or tossing 4-5 tools instead of just one.

I have to admit, it works on me- I'd buy a new battery before I'd get
a new tool if the old one still worked, because everything I've got
(cordless-wise, anyhow) is 18v DeWalt. Buying a different brand would
require carrying another charger, and another outlet to plug into.
When you break the cost per battery up amongst several tools, it's
much lower, comparatively.

"Prometheus" wrote in message
...

I'd say that's a strong bet- look at all the sets of cordless tools
that come with more tools than batteries. Sure, you can swap them
around- that's the obvious and most sensible thing to do, but when
those wear out, you have to decide between buying a new battery or
two, or tossing 4-5 tools instead of just one.

I have to admit, it works on me- I'd buy a new battery before I'd get
a new tool if the old one still worked, because everything I've got
(cordless-wise, anyhow) is 18v DeWalt. Buying a different brand would
require carrying another charger, and another outlet to plug into.
When you break the cost per battery up amongst several tools, it's
much lower, comparatively.


It also seems to me that the price of the large kits goes up
unproportionally. Typically a Drill kit includes 2 batteries and a charger
and case. The drill, charger, case and batteries can be had for a few
dollars more than just two batteries. When you get the kit with a jigsaw,
circle saw, recip saw, drill, and flash light, the price of the extra tools
seem to steeper. The drill alone may cost $25-$40 extra, the cost of the
extra jig saw, circle saw, recip saw, and flash light seem to cost $75-$100
each extra. I would be willing to bet again that the GP on the large kit is
much higher than the drill kit alone.

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:54:32 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


"Prometheus" wrote in message
.. .

I'd say that's a strong bet- look at all the sets of cordless tools
that come with more tools than batteries. Sure, you can swap them
around- that's the obvious and most sensible thing to do, but when
those wear out, you have to decide between buying a new battery or
two, or tossing 4-5 tools instead of just one.

I have to admit, it works on me- I'd buy a new battery before I'd get
a new tool if the old one still worked, because everything I've got
(cordless-wise, anyhow) is 18v DeWalt. Buying a different brand would
require carrying another charger, and another outlet to plug into.
When you break the cost per battery up amongst several tools, it's
much lower, comparatively.


It also seems to me that the price of the large kits goes up
unproportionally. Typically a Drill kit includes 2 batteries and a charger
and case. The drill, charger, case and batteries can be had for a few
dollars more than just two batteries. When you get the kit with a jigsaw,
circle saw, recip saw, drill, and flash light, the price of the extra tools
seem to steeper. The drill alone may cost $25-$40 extra, the cost of the
extra jig saw, circle saw, recip saw, and flash light seem to cost $75-$100
each extra. I would be willing to bet again that the GP on the large kit is
much higher than the drill kit alone.

That could be the case, but it's still often signifigantly cheaper
than buying each of the tools individually. Usually, I don't go for
the kits, but that's more because they've always got one or two things
I don't want or need in them. If I were replacing everything, they'd
be an attractive option.

"Prometheus" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:54:32 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


"Prometheus" wrote in message
. ..

I'd say that's a strong bet- look at all the sets of cordless tools
that come with more tools than batteries. Sure, you can swap them
around- that's the obvious and most sensible thing to do, but when
those wear out, you have to decide between buying a new battery or
two, or tossing 4-5 tools instead of just one.

I have to admit, it works on me- I'd buy a new battery before I'd get
a new tool if the old one still worked, because everything I've got
(cordless-wise, anyhow) is 18v DeWalt. Buying a different brand would
require carrying another charger, and another outlet to plug into.
When you break the cost per battery up amongst several tools, it's
much lower, comparatively.


It also seems to me that the price of the large kits goes up
unproportionally. Typically a Drill kit includes 2 batteries and a
charger
and case. The drill, charger, case and batteries can be had for a few
dollars more than just two batteries. When you get the kit with a jigsaw,
circle saw, recip saw, drill, and flash light, the price of the extra
tools
seem to steeper. The drill alone may cost $25-$40 extra, the cost of the
extra jig saw, circle saw, recip saw, and flash light seem to cost
$75-$100
each extra. I would be willing to bet again that the GP on the large kit
is
much higher than the drill kit alone.

That could be the case, but it's still often signifigantly cheaper
than buying each of the tools individually. Usually, I don't go for
the kits, but that's more because they've always got one or two things
I don't want or need in them. If I were replacing everything, they'd
be an attractive option.

I've been sorely tempted by the Dewalt 36v LiIon kit--