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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask
because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the past). Jason |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
In article , Morris Dovey
wrote: (in ) said: | Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask | because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to | be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I | cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. | | Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking | for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. | | Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the | past). Do it all with the router and cut round-ended tenons to match. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto First and most importantly, squared tennons give you much better structural integrity. What size are these mortises to be cut? -- How wide, how long, how deep? For most mortises up to 1/2" wide, hand mortising is pretty darned fast. If they're the usual 1/4"x 2-3" mortises, then 48 should be as fast by hand, and a lot more fun. The deal is to start the mortise about 3/16" or so from their ends, strike down with the flat chisel side toward that end, do the other end likewise, and then pry the waste-wood out. Repeat and repeat. (Sure wish there were a way to sketch here) At least get yourself a good mortising chisel to square the ends -- much faster than setting up a mortising machine, and since you can place your mortising chisel precisely, more accurate as well. lenny |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Each, if the mockup works and holds, will be 3/4 deep, 1/2 wide, and 1
1/4 tall. These are going into 2x2" maple rails and the supports are 1x2" maple slats. They'll hold 6-10 wine bottles, which translates to about 30lbs per shelf (15lbs per rail). They *should* hold that just fine, although I haven't tested what would happen if the top should pancake... I would find it much easier to make them 3/4 deep, 1/4 wide, and 1" tall but that gets back to trying to figure out how to make everything correctly and accurately the first time thru- hence my interest in jigs around router mortising. Jason lenny wrote: In article , Morris Dovey wrote: (in ) said: | Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask | because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to | be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I | cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. | | Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking | for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. | | Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the | past). Do it all with the router and cut round-ended tenons to match. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto First and most importantly, squared tennons give you much better structural integrity. What size are these mortises to be cut? -- How wide, how long, how deep? For most mortises up to 1/2" wide, hand mortising is pretty darned fast. If they're the usual 1/4"x 2-3" mortises, then 48 should be as fast by hand, and a lot more fun. The deal is to start the mortise about 3/16" or so from their ends, strike down with the flat chisel side toward that end, do the other end likewise, and then pry the waste-wood out. Repeat and repeat. (Sure wish there were a way to sketch here) At least get yourself a good mortising chisel to square the ends -- much faster than setting up a mortising machine, and since you can place your mortising chisel precisely, more accurate as well. lenny |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
No.
"lenny" wrote in message ... First and most importantly, squared tennons give you much better structural integrity. |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
CW wrote:
No. CW is right.... G _Well fitted_ tenons provide great structural integrity, the shape of the corner means little, as long as it fits well. |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Skip the mortiser all together. Rout 'em out!
Mortisers are for sissies! --- Stoutman www.garagewoodworks.com |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
wrote in message oups.com... Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the past). This may help http://www.patwarner.com/morticer.html http://www.patwarner.com/tenonmaker.html |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Find your favorite router jig and throw that mortising machine
away. A router makes mortising a fun thing. A good jig is essential but that can be made in a couple of minutes... wrote: Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the past). Jason |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Thanks all-
I have a Sears router- not a plunge. I think all this mean is I'm going to have to be creative to get it to make the mortises, thats all. Jason Pat Barber wrote: Find your favorite router jig and throw that mortising machine away. A router makes mortising a fun thing. A good jig is essential but that can be made in a couple of minutes... wrote: Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the past). Jason |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Sad to say I'm already aware of this. I was making a shelf for the
dining room- and the cove bit 'wandered' a bit as I progressed. Had to retighten the collet 5x across the 8 feet of the shelf length. When I finished I was more worried what would have happen had it come free at those speeds.... Jason Mike Marlow wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Thanks all- I have a Sears router- not a plunge. I think all this mean is I'm going to have to be creative to get it to make the mortises, thats all. Jason Inside joke here Jason, but if you have a Sears router, you indeed have a plunger router... -- -Mike- |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
That will take a great deal of creativity. I strongly
suggest you buy a decent plunge router. There are a great many on the market and this will allow you to make mortising a joy and not such an ordeal. Here are few examples: http://www.woodcentral.com/articles/...cles_454.shtml http://www.woodsmith.com/issues/147/...he-router-jig/ wrote: Thanks all- I have a Sears router- not a plunge. I think all this mean is I'm going to have to be creative to get it to make the mortises, thats all. |
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Mortiser and Router to make a mortise?
Some tips on morticing with a router at the :
http://patwarner.com/router_morticing.html link. ************************************************** ******************************* wrote: Does anyone combo a mortiser and a router to make a mortise? I ask because, as much fun as my delta mortiser bits have turned out to be, I think I'd have better luck (and less risk of breakage) if I cut the end points and then zipped the board down between them. Since I'll have to cut 12 mortises per column (48 total) I'm looking for the least amount of work that is as reproduceable as possible. Suggestions welcome (part of the wine rack posts I've made in the past). Jason |
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