Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:


Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.


Could ya run this past us again,what do ya mean?

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew



--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically recommend
the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:


Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.


Could ya run this past us again,what do ya mean?

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew

I think I'm getting the picture now?

The top middle clamp is where the Horizontal stock slides under and the
stock goes halfway under the comb(finger plate)then the Vertical piece
butts up against the Horizontal stock edge.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Gus wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check
things out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

As far as I can make out this is the same jig and it can do straight
through joints.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...C&pf_id=21752&

If the Horizontal stock is enough forward of the comb it will cut straight
through joint.
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
k...
Gus wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check
things out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

As far as I can make out this is the same jig and it can do straight
through joints.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...C&pf_id=21752&

If the Horizontal stock is enough forward of the comb it will cut straight
through joint.
--
No, you have to also buy the template for through dovetails and install in
place of the blind template.

Toller wrote:
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
k...
Gus wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16"
pilot bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check
things out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

As far as I can make out this is the same jig and it can do straight
through joints.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...C&pf_id=21752&

If the Horizontal stock is enough forward of the comb it will cut
straight through joint.
--
No, you have to also buy the template for through dovetails and
install in place of the blind template.

How do work that out? the one I posted does not have any other template
other than the one it comes with plus an optional replacement of the same
comb if needed

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 01:39:23 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

As far as I can make out this is the same jig and it can do straight
through joints.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...C&pf_id=21752&

If the Horizontal stock is enough forward of the comb it will cut straight
through joint.

Actually the item is this one

http://www.amazon.com/Jet-709060-12-.../dp/B00006S7CG

and if you read it says half blind.

But Lew could some quater inch scrap on top and do half blind
dovetails.

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

Gus wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check
things out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

Couldn't he cut the through joints with two pieces of stock vertically
together and put a scrap piece of stock horizontaly to save splintering of
the back piece?

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Don't give up your fun is just beginning. What you have I believe is a Blue
Monster dovetail jig. It is intended to cut half blind joints. Templates
are available which have pitches of 7/16", 1/2", and 9/16". The same 7/16"
bushing and 14 degree bit will work with all three templates. With some
minor modification you can cut very nice fitting half blind dovetails. If
you want to cut through dovetails the Blue Monster can be used but it takes
a bit more modification to do through dovetails and you will need different
bits and you will need to make your own tails templates and pin templates.
I use my Blue Monster almost exclusively to cut through dovetails. Once you
get set up they are easy to do and you have much greater flexibility as to
size and spacing.
Earl Creel

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
link.net...
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out bit on
steel base on which the stock rests.

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew

Looks a lot like the one from Rockler. Almost identical.

"Earl Creel" wrote in message
news:bk%Vg.2313$uJ2.913@dukeread03...
Don't give up your fun is just beginning. What you have I believe is a
Blue Monster dovetail jig. It is intended to cut half blind joints.
Templates are available which have pitches of 7/16", 1/2", and 9/16". The
same 7/16" bushing and 14 degree bit will work with all three templates.
With some minor modification you can cut very nice fitting half blind
dovetails. If you want to cut through dovetails the Blue Monster can be
used but it takes a bit more modification to do through dovetails and you
will need different bits and you will need to make your own tails
templates and pin templates. I use my Blue Monster almost exclusively to
cut through dovetails. Once you get set up they are easy to do and you
have much greater flexibility as to size and spacing.
Earl Creel

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
link.net...
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out bit
on steel base on which the stock rests.

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
link.net...
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out bit on
steel base on which the stock rests.

No place to install some waste material, so what is the solution?

Lew

Like a few others have mentioned, the jig is for half blind DT's

"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
.uk...
Toller wrote:
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
k...
Gus wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16"
pilot bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check
things out.

Houston, we have a problem.

Want to thru dovetail some 1/2" stock, but if I do, will bottom out
bit on steel base on which the stock rests.



Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.

If you want to make through dovetails, I can enthusiastically
recommend the "pins and tails" jig from MLCS.

As far as I can make out this is the same jig and it can do straight
through joints.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...C&pf_id=21752&

If the Horizontal stock is enough forward of the comb it will cut
straight through joint.
--
No, you have to also buy the template for through dovetails and
install in place of the blind template.

How do work that out? the one I posted does not have any other template
other than the one it comes with plus an optional replacement of the same
comb if needed

You are right that it will only do one kind of dovetail. Specifically a
"lap dovetail". I am not absolutely sure (all I could find were "half lap
dovetails", never "lap dovetails") but I think those are what we would call
half blind dovetails, rather than through dovetails. The template for
through dovetails is very different.

You are in the UK? I just got a book on wood out of the library written in
England. About one third of it is on Australian and New Zealand woods I
have never heard of. Are they commonly used there?

Gus wrote:


Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.



Many thanks to all who responded.

As Gus indicates and the instructions confirm, this is a half-blind
dovetail jig.

When I bought the unit, I assumed, without giving it any thought, that
if it makes half-blind dovetails it will make thru dovetails.

What's that old bit about assuming?

NBD, it is now time for plan "B".

The drawer fronts will get half-blind dovetails, the backs will now
get box joints rather than thru dovetails, so all is not lost.

Again, thanks to all.

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Gus wrote:


Ummm....not to put too fine a point on this, but this jig is for
half-blind dovetails,
not through dovetails.



Many thanks to all who responded.

As Gus indicates and the instructions confirm, this is a half-blind
dovetail jig.

When I bought the unit, I assumed, without giving it any thought, that
if it makes half-blind dovetails it will make thru dovetails.

What's that old bit about assuming?

NBD, it is now time for plan "B".

The drawer fronts will get half-blind dovetails, the backs will now
get box joints rather than thru dovetails, so all is not lost.

Again, thanks to all.

Lew

Yes but you can still get through dovetails by putting two pieces together
zigzaged vertically and go all the way through.
However you need some waste stock at the back to reduce splintering.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote:


Yes but you can still get through dovetails by putting two pieces together
zigzaged vertically and go all the way through.
However you need some waste stock at the back to reduce splintering.

Huh? Can't picture what you are talking about here. Seems you need a
spacer on the front (to take the space normally occupied by the
portion of the drawer front not cut, and a longer comb to keep from
rounding over the insides of the tails.
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Recently acquired a Jet, 12" Dovetail jig.

Assembled per instructions (The reference pictures were a must).

Have 1/2" template which specs a 1/2"@14 degree bit and a 7/16" pilot
bushing.

No problem.

Before plugging router into power, decide to mechanically check things
out.

Houston, we have a problem.


I've just borrowed and used one these type of DJigs.

And I can undoubtably say...they're a piece of junk,too much faffing about
setting up the clamping system and aligning the wood.
Time taken setting up and clamping wood 5to6 minutes.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

And I can undoubtably say...they're a piece of junk,too much
faffing about
setting up the clamping system and aligning the wood.
Time taken setting up and clamping wood 5to6 minutes.

Have just finished doing a dovetail job using the recently purchased
Jet Dovetail Jig.

All went well.

Cutting the dovetails into the final stock was actually very straight
forward and went quickly; however, getting a new jig set up properly
is quite a challenge.

Have lots of scrap to make test cuts as well as the patience of Job
while doing it.

The actual Jet Dovetail Jig is quite well built.

Proper application is rather complex.

Keep the instructions handy during set-up.

Lew