Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
.. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

I have 2 PCs and no Hitachi, happy with all both. and last year got a
2.25 Bosch combo, I can not say enought about this one, it is just
greate. Hitachi from other hand is not bad too I guess, but I would
not get it over PC, Bosch and or Makita.
Maybe someone can say more about Hitachi.
MaxEN

Jimmy wrote:
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

"Jimmy" wrote in message
om...
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25
(
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the
PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks


I use Hitachi TR-12 for continuous production. They last about 6 months and
then I throw them away. At that point they cost more to repair than get
new.

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message

. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used
the
PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

I use Hitachi TR-12 for continuous production. They last about 6 months
and
then I throw them away. At that point they cost more to repair than get
new.

Not sure if that answers his question about the viability of Hitachi
routers. 'Continuous production' will quickly wear out most any consumer
router, Porter Cable included.

I've got a Hitachi and been using it in my shop for about 25 years of
trouble free use. It was a TR-8. My only regret is
not buying a TR-12 to accept up to 1/2" shanks for the router bits.

"Jimmy" wrote in message
om...
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25
(
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the
PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:48:37 GMT, "Jimmy"
wrote:

Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks



Many brands are good, and the excellent ones are so expensive that you
can buy two Porter Cable routers for the same money. Personally, I'd
stick with the PC brand--it is reasonably priced, good quality, and
parts/accessories easily available. Makita and Hitachi are decent
brands.

I;ve had a TR-12 for over 10 years of light duty, the posts need to be
lubed once every six months for smooth plunging. BUT I know of no one
who has bought and used the latest Hitachi routers. They are on sale
at Lowes and I am thinking of getting them and a woodhaven adapter to
use on a router lift I bought.

Alan

Jimmy wrote:
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

PC would be my choice. Without getting into a lot of minutia see the
http://patwarner.com/selecting_router.html link. It might be that a
single tool will not work for all of the procedures you think it will.
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Jimmy wrote:
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

"Jimmy" wrote in message
om...
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25
(
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the
PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.


I'd not buy the Hitachi. It's ugly. No other reason.

Jimmy wrote:
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

I used PC production routers for years and years. And as I was
replacing them, they went to a smaller motor body and quality just went
down from there. I could no longer justify the cost of the PC
production units and started looking for a high horse-power
alternatives. I tried a M12V Hitachi and did everything I could to kill
it. To no avail. It (and I have bough many since then to expand
capabilities) still runs like a top today. Huge power, quiet (for a
universal motor) and these days, they're cheap as dirt.
Its down-side is that it is a bit top-heavy, the base a bit small (I
put bigger feet on them).
I have said it before and will say it again... best bang for the buck.
For "all-day" trimming and shaping, I use the Milwaukee 2.25 HP
routers. Just love those red puppies.
I own Fein and Festool equipment as well... so 'cheap' isn't the
overriding factor. Performance is.


r

So far Ed's given you the best advice...that Hitachi's just butt ugly,
and self-respect plays a role in the shop. I'll start buying Hitachi
again when they're done with their NASCAR phase.

My two-cents: Get the Bosch Duece 'n a Quarter. I had the opportunity
to use a PC at a woodworking school a month ago, and the dominant
feeling I walked away with was "what a piece of **** that was."
Couldn't hold a candle to the Bosch. Couldn't even hold the matchstick.

I agree with the ugly. I'm not to fond of Hitachi's new tennis shoe inspired
look. The thing that struck me about the router though was that it only
comes with a 1/4" collet. Is a half inch available? How hard is it to find?

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"Jimmy" wrote in message
om...
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25
(

http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used
the
PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.


I'd not buy the Hitachi. It's ugly. No other reason.

CW wrote:
The thing that struck me about the router though was that it only
comes with a 1/4" collet. Is a half inch available? How hard is it
to find?

Looks like 1/4 & 1/2 are standard.

Lew

Thanks for the advice and opinions. Sounds like not too many people have the
Hitachi. Wonder if it glows in the dark? Will take a look at the Bosch and
PC.
wrote in message
ups.com...
So far Ed's given you the best advice...that Hitachi's just butt ugly,
and self-respect plays a role in the shop. I'll start buying Hitachi
again when they're done with their NASCAR phase.

My two-cents: Get the Bosch Duece 'n a Quarter. I had the opportunity
to use a PC at a woodworking school a month ago, and the dominant
feeling I walked away with was "what a piece of **** that was."
Couldn't hold a candle to the Bosch. Couldn't even hold the matchstick.

"Robatoy" wrote in message

I used PC production routers for years and years. And as I was
replacing them, they went to a smaller motor body and quality just went
down from there. I could no longer justify the cost of the PC
production units and started looking for a high horse-power
alternatives.

I'm thinking many of the folks who tout PC today haven't been around long
enough to remember what they once were. The last two I have "acquired" have
not stood up to hard use, not abuse, to the point that, on the plunge model,
I have to keep a 1/2" socket driver handy because the plastic adjustment
parts keep breaking/falling off.

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www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/6/06

"Swingman" wrote in message
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I'm thinking many of the folks who tout PC today haven't been around long
enough to remember what they once were. The last two I have "acquired"
have
not stood up to hard use, not abuse, to the point that, on the plunge
model,
I have to keep a 1/2" socket driver handy because the plastic adjustment
parts keep breaking/falling off.


That must be why B&D was so interested in purchasing Delta & PC. The PC was
becoming the new B&D. :~)

In the ad he referenced, it only mentions a 1/4". Didn't sound right to me
as most come with both.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
hlink.net...
CW wrote:
The thing that struck me about the router though was that it only
comes with a 1/4" collet. Is a half inch available? How hard is it
to find?

Looks like 1/4 & 1/2 are standard.

Lew

Not sure if that answers his question about the viability of Hitachi
routers. 'Continuous production' will quickly wear out most any consumer
router, Porter Cable included.

Exactly! We have found that the Hitachi is the best deal per dollar/hour.
I think that should translate to whatever duty-cycle with me being at one
end and the hobbyist being at the other end. A hobbyist might never wear it
out and it's cheap so, it logically follows that a more expensive unit
wouldn't have a pay-back to justify the additional expense. Sorry, I'm not
a good communicator, but do you see what I'm getting at?

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message

Not sure if that answers his question about the viability of Hitachi
routers. 'Continuous production' will quickly wear out most any consumer
router, Porter Cable included.

Exactly! We have found that the Hitachi is the best deal per dollar/hour.
I think that should translate to whatever duty-cycle with me being at one
end and the hobbyist being at the other end. A hobbyist might never wear
it
out and it's cheap so, it logically follows that a more expensive unit
wouldn't have a pay-back to justify the additional expense.

So what you're in effect saying then, is that you feel the Hitachi is a good
purchase for the end user.

I realize it wasn't in the subject line, but what about Dewalt? I did a
pretty thorough survey of routers a couple months ago in preparation for
buying one and it seemed like the Dewalt was a pretty well reviewed model.

There is a 2hp or so model with a 3 base form I was going to get. Thoughts?

Jimmy wrote:
Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi 2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...1,12,61,p235,# )
.. Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems? I've used the PC
before, off and on but never the Hitachi.

Thanks

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:00:14 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message

out and it's cheap so, it logically follows that a more expensive unit
wouldn't have a pay-back to justify the additional expense.

So what you're in effect saying then, is that you feel the Hitachi is a good
purchase for the end user.

I'll effectively say it also. My M12V is almost 4 yrs old and has been
in the router table its entire existence. Moldings, roundovers and
countless pieces from patterns. The M12V hasn't skipped a beat.

"CW" wrote in message
ink.net...
In the ad he referenced, it only mentions a 1/4". Didn't sound right to me
as most come with both.


The parts list shows the 1/2". The ad says it comes with a 1/4", but I
think they mean it is an accessory, not the standard collet. It is also
listed with other accessories.

"Lee Johnson" wrote in message
...
I realize it wasn't in the subject line, but what about Dewalt? I did a
pretty thorough survey of routers a couple months ago in preparation for
buying one and it seemed like the Dewalt was a pretty well reviewed model.

There is a 2hp or so model with a 3 base form I was going to get.
Thoughts?

I have a DeWalt plunge router. Seems good, but I don't have enough hours on
it to say how durable it is in the long run. I use the table far more than
the plunge.

..

So what you're in effect saying then, is that you feel the Hitachi is a
good
purchase for the end user.

Ayup, (in my opinion)

"Jimmy" wrote in
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Need some help to decide between Porter-Cable 2.25 hp router (
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4855 ) or the Hitachi
2.25 (
http://www.hitachipowertools.com/sto...rrPath=1,12,61
,p235,# ) . Has anyone had the Hitachi for a while? Had any problems?
I've used the PC before, off and on but never the Hitachi.


The hitachi M12V plunge is currently $159.99 at Amazon, and 10% off
code is SAVTENPTJUNE - so that's $144 .

I don't see how you could beat that. More horsepower than the M12VC,
but maybe you don't want the plunge base.

The hitachi M12V plunge is currently $159.99 at Amazon, and 10% off
code is SAVTENPTJUNE - so that's $144 .

I don't see how you could beat that. More horsepower than the M12VC

.... but not nearly as stylish. :-P

Actually, tha M12VC doesn't bother me. The jigsaw, however, is hideous.