I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this saw.

I respect this group's opinions.

Aw, c'mon. I am a nice guy. PLEASE?


"buffalo" wrote in message
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I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this
saw.

I respect this group's opinions.

buffalo wrote:
I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this saw.


What's the rush.

"buffalo" wrote in message
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Aw, c'mon. I am a nice guy. PLEASE?


"buffalo" wrote in message
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I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight
unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this
saw.

A Google search shows this model is made by Ryobi. Not knowing the cost,
condition, or your needs and skills, I can't say if it is worth buying.
Ryobi saws are on the smaller side so I'd pass on it. YMMV

Need a saw to do some other stuff so I can do some other stuff so I can do
some other stuff. You know how that goes; a sequential 'cluster'.


"A.M. Wood" wrote in message
oups.com...

buffalo wrote:
I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight
unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this
saw.


What's the rush.

A table saw is the cornerstone of any woodshop. Make sure it has at
least a 10" blade and a 3hp motor.... anything less and you'll quickly
be looking for an upgrade.... especially if you plan on using it on a
regular basis.

Woody

In article .com,
Tha Anonymous wrote:
A table saw is the cornerstone of any woodshop. Make sure it has at
least a 10" blade and a 3hp motor.... anything less and you'll quickly
be looking for an upgrade.... especially if you plan on using it on a
regular basis.

Woody


I thing you misspelled 1.5hp there...

--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland

buffalo wrote:
: I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
: (yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this saw.



Don't buy any large tool used sight unseen, unless you
know and trust the owner. All sorts of things could
be off: dead motor, bent arbor shaft, bad wiring, warped table, ...

A good tablesaw will last a very long time. Take your time to
get one you can use well.

-- Andy Barss

"buffalo" wrote in message
I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight
unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this
saw.

I respect this group's opinions.


If it's only fifty bucks, jump on it ... but look first. If not, slow down
and do your homework.

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www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/6/06

"buffalo" wrote:

I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this saw.

I respect this group's opinions.

My opinion: Don't do it, or at least don't do it at a price that would
cause heartburn if you lost it. I own the Ryobi branded version of
this saw, really like it, and would encourage you to consider if it
makes the right tradeoffs for you in getting its price so low.
However, one of those trade-offs is that it is NOT rugged. So
depending on how it had been treated, this "sight unseen" purchase
could be a complete pile of junk.

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"alexy" wrote in message

My opinion: Don't do it, or at least don't do it at a price that would
cause heartburn if you lost it. I own the Ryobi branded version of
this saw, really like it, and would encourage you to consider if it
makes the right tradeoffs for you in getting its price so low.

It is just a motor spinning a blade that stick up through a slot. Can be
much difference between the $99 model and the $1999 model. After all, it is
the blade that does all the work. Anything more that $200 for a tablesaw is
just price gouging by the manufacturer.

On Fri, 19 May 2006 07:03:01 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
wrote:

buffalo wrote:
: I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
: (yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this saw.



Don't buy any large tool used sight unseen, unless you
know and trust the owner. All sorts of things could
be off: dead motor, bent arbor shaft, bad wiring, warped table, ...

A good tablesaw will last a very long time. Take your time to
get one you can use well.

-- Andy Barss


Good advice

Thank you to everyone who took their time to pass along their advice and
knowledge.

Alexy said to consider the trade-offs. I really don't know about table saws
to know what to look for.

Pawlowskis' comment could really lead someone like me astray. Maybe cute
but could cost others money, time and effort.

I am paying 100 bucks for this and it supposedly has a table of about five
feet wide and a roller stand.

I shouldn't mention this but the only table saw that I have ever had was a
"King Fong" special. $79.00 about 20 years ago and still runs. All that I
can say about it is that it will cut better than an axe.


I did do a google on this model and came up short.
I will give it a test before finalizing, if I only knew what to test for
other than 'run-out', warped table, wasps and meadow muffins.





I doubt that this will be my last table saw. However, som
"buffalo" wrote in message
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I am about to buy a used sears table saw 315.228410 tomorrow, sight unseen
(yes, I am over 18) and would sincerely appreciate ANY INPUT about this
saw.

I respect this group's opinions.

snip
Alexy said to consider the trade-offs. I really don't know about table saws
to know what to look for.

Snip
I did do a google on this model and came up short.
I will give it a test before finalizing, if I only knew what to test for
other than 'run-out', warped table, wasps and meadow muffins.



From: http://www.sawcenter.com/unisaw_faq.htm

Q. What should I look for when buying a used saw?

A. I get this one a lot. If you can find a used unisaw, it can
represent a good value or a money pit. If you but an old- run-out model
with a three phase motor and plan to rebuild it and use it in your
cellar, get out your wallet!

What you should look for is a newer saw (the last 20 years or so counts
as newer for unisaws), one that has a three horsepower, single phase
motor. There are also some units that were built for a time using the
one and one-half and two horsepower motors. Make sure that the motors
turn at 3450 RPM, not the older 1725 RPM. Check the fence and make sure
it slides easily and is true. Look underneath and check for rust on the
gear racks ant other moving parts. Some light rust is ok, but it should
be able to be removed easily. Check the angle and elevation gear rack
and worm gears for excessive wear. Look at the inside left rear
trunnion support ( a weak spot) to check for breakage. Check the table
for rust or pits. Light rust is OK, it can be removed. The alignment of
the blade to the table is not important if it is off a little, it can
easily be adjusted. Make sure it cranks up and down and tilts easily.
Be sure all the accessories ( motor cover, dust door, extension wings
etc) are with it, as they can be expensive to replace. Make sure the
proper electrical controls are there and working. They can also be
expensive to replace or repair. Run the machine ( without a blade!) and
listen for any excessive vibration. If found, loosen or remove the
drive belts to localize the noise. If it is still noisy after removing
the belts, the motor probably needs to be rebuild. If not then it's
the arbor assembly or the belts causing the noise, and will have to be
replaced or rebuilt. If you still want the saw, use these points to
bargain with.





Take your time and shop around. It may take a few extra weeks but
you'll be glad you did.

Forgot to add

"The Table Saw Book" by Kelly Mehler has a section on buying used saws.
You may wish to pick up a copy.

Good luck

"buffalo" wrote:

Thank you to everyone who took their time to pass along their advice and
knowledge.

Alexy said to consider the trade-offs. I really don't know about table saws
to know what to look for.
snip

I did do a google on this model and came up short.
I will give it a test before finalizing, if I only knew what to test for
other than 'run-out', warped table, wasps and meadow muffins.

Go to www.bt3central.com
That is a user site (not affiliated with the manufacturer) for the
Ryobi BT3000 and BT3100. There is a Sears branded version of the same
saw, which someone on this thread said was the model number you are
looking at. I think that site has an article on what to look for in
buying a used one, which might be helpful for some questions for you
to ask, even if you don't get to see it. And the users on the forums
there are very helpful -- some fall into the "irrational fan" camp,
but even those are mostly very knowledgable about what to look for in
evaluating the saw.
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Okay, Alexy.

I went to the site and found nothing for this model.

However, I did buy the saw and did everything everyone suggested EXCEPT cut
something - I forgot. The saw was running and the blade looked true. I got
up underneath it and all looked true, too.

I did not remove the belt as it was 9900 degrees with bright sunshine.

The guy said that he cut two sheets of plywood with it and by looking at the
plastic coating on the table and just a tiny bit of sawdust, I believe it.

It also has wing extensions (cast iron) another type of fence, a spare
carbide blade, the manual and a rolling, locking base.

The bad: I put it on my trailer with brand-new boards and it went into
resonance between 30 and 45 mph and shook the stand to where it cracked in
two places but I have already welded it and it also cracked the aluminum
motor adjusting bracket and I welded it, too but I will get a new one.

I am very happy with what I got.

Thanks again, everyone, for their help.



"alexy" wrote in message
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"buffalo" wrote:

Thank you to everyone who took their time to pass along their advice and
knowledge.

Alexy said to consider the trade-offs. I really don't know about table
saws
to know what to look for.
snip

I did do a google on this model and came up short.
I will give it a test before finalizing, if I only knew what to test for
other than 'run-out', warped table, wasps and meadow muffins.

Go to www.bt3central.com
That is a user site (not affiliated with the manufacturer) for the
Ryobi BT3000 and BT3100. There is a Sears branded version of the same
saw, which someone on this thread said was the model number you are
looking at. I think that site has an article on what to look for in
buying a used one, which might be helpful for some questions for you
to ask, even if you don't get to see it. And the users on the forums
there are very helpful -- some fall into the "irrational fan" camp,
but even those are mostly very knowledgable about what to look for in
evaluating the saw.
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infrequently.

"buffalo" wrote:

Okay, Alexy.

I went to the site and found nothing for this model.

I may have given you a bum steer there. Sorry. Someone else mentioned
that it was the Ryobi saw I have, and I didn't verify. From your
description, it sounds like it is not the same saw--no CI wings on the
3000/3100 or sears branded version, and you would not have been
tempted to remove the belt--it is a short and wide toothed belt on the
3000/3100.

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