I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better?

Thans for your advice.
Frank

Don't know about the Delta but I bought a Jet contractor saw with cast
wings similar to this:
http://tinyurl.com/pokbq
with an extension table and the exacta fence at woodworker's warehouse
a few years back for about $750. Very happy with this saw and only
needed a 79¢ upgrade as described he
http://home.pacbell.net/jdismuk/jetfix.html

I know WW warehouse is closed now but I went in and showed them an ad
from a website and they met the price. Whatever local place you have
may do the same thing.

Amazon is offering 10 percent of until the 8th code="TOOLS10R"

Happy hunting!

That's a great price. I just got the 36-717 with the delta T2 fence for
719 including shipping from amazon.com. I've just used it a few times
and am pretty satisfied. I still need to tweak the fence a bit, but the
saw cuts like a hot knife thru butter.

Cap'n 321

Frank wrote:
I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better?

Thans for your advice.
Frank

Well it WAS a great price.

In the last few hours they raised the price by $300. :-/

I should have grabbed it while I could have instead of waffling.

I can second that. I also got the 36-715 (T2 version) and have had no
significant problems. I have only had it a couple weeks, but the cuts have
been flawless even with the stock blade.

Some on Amazon complain about problems, but keep in mind that people are
more likely to report a review if they have had problems. I did not have
the set up problems that others have mentioned. The arbor flange runout was
..001" and the miter slot alignment was .003" out of the box. The table was
very flat, although I did have to shim one of the extension tables a little.

The only real negative part of the experience was the delivery. The driver
wanted to set the saw crate at the end of my 250' driveway, stating he was
only obligated to drop it off at the address. It took some coaxing to get
him to let me use his palate dolly to pull the crate up to my garage. He
smashed the crate getting it on the dolly and almost pushed the crate over
the end of his lift before lowering it to the ground. If you don't have a
way to get the crate to your workshop, consider paying extra for better
delivery options.

-Steve


That's a great price. I just got the 36-717 with the delta T2 fence for
719 including shipping from amazon.com. I've just used it a few times and
am pretty satisfied. I still need to tweak the fence a bit, but the saw
cuts like a hot knife thru butter.

Cap'n 321

Frank wrote:
I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better? Thans for your advice.
Frank

I lucked in to some good deals on machinery this year. Most of the good
prices from Amazon. The best deal was a delta shaper, but the others
weren't far behind. I have a lot of delta equipment and no problems so
far that Delta parts didn't make good (cabinet saw guard suppled was
for right tilt, mine is left tilt). My old cheap Delta 6' disk, 4" belt
sander has had no problems ( after I cleaned all of the belt fibers out
of the drive belt area) and was used mostly for metal work. If you're
in a hurry to get a tool shipped Amazon might not be the place to shop
( I did buy a Bosch roto-cut tool that I needed for a job a week and a
half away a by some miracle it was delivered by Fed-ex the day before
I needed it.

I just look on Amazon, the 36-717 (Biesemeyer) saw is still going for
664.00. Pretty good considering I paid 719.00 for the 36-715 (T2). Better
hurry.

-Steve




I can second that. I also got the 36-715 (T2 version) and have had no
significant problems. I have only had it a couple weeks, but the cuts
have been flawless even with the stock blade.

Some on Amazon complain about problems, but keep in mind that people are
more likely to report a review if they have had problems. I did not have
the set up problems that others have mentioned. The arbor flange runout
was .001" and the miter slot alignment was .003" out of the box. The
table was very flat, although I did have to shim one of the extension
tables a little.

The only real negative part of the experience was the delivery. The
driver wanted to set the saw crate at the end of my 250' driveway, stating
he was only obligated to drop it off at the address. It took some coaxing
to get him to let me use his palate dolly to pull the crate up to my
garage. He smashed the crate getting it on the dolly and almost pushed
the crate over the end of his lift before lowering it to the ground. If
you don't have a way to get the crate to your workshop, consider paying
extra for better delivery options.

-Steve


That's a great price. I just got the 36-717 with the delta T2 fence for
719 including shipping from amazon.com. I've just used it a few times
and am pretty satisfied. I still need to tweak the fence a bit, but the
saw cuts like a hot knife thru butter.

Cap'n 321

Frank wrote:
I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better? Thans for your advice.
Frank

Hello to the group. From a frequent reader but infrequent poster.

Good catch. Is this normal for Amazon to do things like this?
Meaning discount an item close to $350? I like good bargains, but
when I see something like this (unless it's a closeout), my 'too good
to be true' hinky feeling feelers start to go bonkers. I'm thinking
of taking the saw I just bought back to buy one of these, but I keep
asking myself what's the catch?

Cheers,

Dale

I bought the saw with the T2 fence in February from Amazon it was $649 to
the door.
The guys sat it in my garage with no problems. I am very pleased with the
saw.
There was one issue which was a cracked table insert, I called Delta and a
nice lady asked a few questions mostly related to serial number and my
address and they had one on my door step in 2 or 3 days no charge.
In my opinion it is an excellent saw for a home owner / hobby wood worker,
mine is very repeatable and makes a nice clean cut. It does everything I
expected it to do. This is not a critical statement when I say the hybrid
saw is not a cabinet saw .... many people that find fault with the saw seem
to expect it to be a low cost cabinet saw. The hybrid is closer to a
contractor saw than it is to a cabinet saw.
Good luck and enjoy your new tool.
Charlie

"Frank" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better?

Thans for your advice.
Frank

Charlie -- YES
That's the impression I got. Everyone that seemed disappointed about
this saw that I talked to personally gave me the impression that they
felt gypped that it wasnt some kind of cheap unisaw. I didn't expect
it to be so, just maybe half a notch above a contracter saw. At
$1000, I probably wouldn't go for it, but for the $649 I just paid, I'm
hoping that this is going to be the right purchase for me.

$649 is a good price.

My ending total after their current 10% discount on power tools and
shipping was $697.
I'm pretty happy about the price. Here's hoping that I'm going to be
happy about the saw!

Hi Frank,

Very few people answered your question about the quality/opinions of
the saw you want to buy.

I worked during WW shows on a few of those hybrid cabinet saws. All I
can say is they performed as well as a contractor saw because... they
are contractor table saw in the first place.

The only added benefit is the fact your get a cabinet and it's much
better for dust collection (a bit quieter too). Aside from that, you
won't get more benefits...

If you want a little bit more, you gotta upgrade to a "real" cabinet
saw but that's another story...


Greg D.


On 2 May 2006 09:26:04 -0700, "Frank" wrote:

I'm putting together my first workshop for doing crafts/furniture and I
am in the process of researching table saws.

I saw a really good deal on the Delta Hybrid table saw with a
biesemeyer fence (model 36-717) for about $600 (shipping is another
$100). This seems like a really good deal. But I've seen a number
of reviews in both directions on this saw (maybe the older reviews are
more negative than the newer).

I'm looking for opinions about this from people that actually have
experience with this saw one way or the other.

Also, are there any options in a similar price bracket that are as good
or better?

Thans for your advice.
Frank

Thats basically what I thought. I liked this saw for a couple of
reasons tho. For the money ($600) I got an upgraded fence (biesemeyer)
and the side table.

Also the motor seems *slightly* upgraded from Delta's typical
contractor saws - this one is *supposedly* 1 3/4 horse as opposed to 1
or 1 1/2. I'm not sure whether the 1/4 horse difference would ever be
noticeable tho.

"Frank" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thats basically what I thought. I liked this saw for a couple of
reasons tho. For the money ($600) I got an upgraded fence (biesemeyer)
and the side table.

Also the motor seems *slightly* upgraded from Delta's typical
contractor saws - this one is *supposedly* 1 3/4 horse as opposed to 1
or 1 1/2. I'm not sure whether the 1/4 horse difference would ever be
noticeable tho.


Keep in mind that a Beis Fence costs about $300+, retail. Subtract that
from the price you are paying and that may indicate the money you are
spending for the saw. Its a $300 saw with a $300 fence.

Thats the retail price for the fence. The retail price for the saw is
*much* higher (over 1K).

Fact is delta owns beismeiyer and their cost to offer it as a fence are
probably no higher (or not too much higher) than their other fences.

"Frank" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thats the retail price for the fence. The retail price for the saw is
*much* higher (over 1K).

Fact is delta owns beismeiyer and their cost to offer it as a fence are
probably no higher (or not too much higher) than their other fences.


Correct, but still I suspect the best part of the saw is the fence.