Let me start out by saying I don't know WTH I'm doing. That being said,
I'm not stopping now.

Still building my in-wall stereo cabinet. It seems a mix between
cabinetry and carpentry. I can't quite find out how to make this thing.
I created a box, then mounted into a hole in the wall.

I dont know if I should have put a "stile" on it before I put it into
the hole, or if I should put a frame around it covering the hole and
mount the door to the frame. I just confused myself. I started
mimicking a door by undersizing the box and using shims to put it into
place. making the box edges flush with the drywall cutout. the cutout
is framed in 2x4s. But then I wanted the glass door and am not sure
what to do.

I guess I should continue down the door-style path. That means Ill
mount a frame/border around the perimeter of the box. Then Ill put a
door into the front of the box that will be flush with the frame like a
door, instead of on top of the frame like a cabinet.

But what about the 2 drawers on the bottom?? How can I have
flush-with-frame drawers? The box has a partition in it that seperates
the top part from the part that will house 2 drawers. But there is
nothing between each drawer space. if the door is within the frame,
then the drawers will have to be also. But I cant see how that will
work. Do I mount a cross piece within the box, or on the surface of the
box butting against the frame?

OMG what have I done? I have 3 books been reading over the last month
but just couldn't find anything detailing exactly what I'm doing here.
Im painting myself into a corner appearantly.

Did I mention I forgot to mount the back of the box before I put it into
the hole, and there is only 2" clearance between back of box and wall.

It does not have to be a pristine thing of beauty. It just has to not
bring down the things around it. Honestly, I need some tips because
none of the books I read are giving me clues as to an in-wall cabinet
and drawers.


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Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

How about if you build a faceframe that goes over the whole thing which
includes a stile between the two drawers?

Then you can mount your door right to the face frame (fit it BEFORE you
attach the faceframe to the cabinet), and the frame will cover up the
junction between carcase and drywall. Then you'll have to figure out
how to mount drawer slides.

In case the obvious hasn't dawned on you already: on projects such as
these you really ought to do all the doors, drawers, hinges, slides,
etc. before installing the cabinet in the wall.

If you have some way of taking a picture of your "dilemma" we might be
able to provide more guidance.

Josh

Josh wrote:
How about if you build a faceframe that goes over the whole thing which
includes a stile between the two drawers?

Then you can mount your door right to the face frame (fit it BEFORE you
attach the faceframe to the cabinet), and the frame will cover up the
junction between carcase and drywall. Then you'll have to figure out
how to mount drawer slides.


Hmm. That does not sound too bad. So just make a faceframe like so

_______
| |
| |
| |
| |
|_______|
| |
|_______|
| |
|_______|


That seems doable. Something was confusing me, I can't seem to
understand what I was confused about.

In case the obvious hasn't dawned on you already: on projects such as
these you really ought to do all the doors, drawers, hinges, slides,
etc. before installing the cabinet in the wall.


yea I know. Ill have to sit down and plan it all out next time. I can
see a simple job like this taking about 2 hours of planning. but I had
better do it.


If you have some way of taking a picture of your "dilemma" we might be
able to provide more guidance.

Josh


Well I spent my camera money on a 10" Dewalt Miter. Its all I can do to
hold back from the Amazon clamp deal. And Rocker has a deal on 4 clamps
too.

Thanks a lot. I was panicking a bit. Maybe I needed to eat as I can't
see why this simple idea didnt hit me.



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Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:06:27 -0500, dnoyeB
wrote:

I guess I should continue down the door-style path. That means Ill
mount a frame/border around the perimeter of the box. Then Ill put a
door into the front of the box that will be flush with the frame like a
door, instead of on top of the frame like a cabinet.

Have you considered using just a glass door above with no wood frame
around the glass?
That way you don't have to match your drawers to the look you have in
the opening above.
You could still put your wood frame around the box but your drawers
could be either overlay or flush or whatever is easier for you to do.

We built a similar cabinet with rails and stiles. The upper opening
had a glass door (no wood around the glass) then one overlay drawer
below and then an overlay door below that.
We actually duplicated this cabinet on either side of the TV opening.
If I can get my mail reader to do it, I'll try to post a picture of it
over in ABPW.

Mike O.

Mike O. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:06:27 -0500, dnoyeB
wrote:


I guess I should continue down the door-style path. That means Ill
mount a frame/border around the perimeter of the box. Then Ill put a
door into the front of the box that will be flush with the frame like a
door, instead of on top of the frame like a cabinet.


Have you considered using just a glass door above with no wood frame
around the glass?
That way you don't have to match your drawers to the look you have in
the opening above.
You could still put your wood frame around the box but your drawers
could be either overlay or flush or whatever is easier for you to do.


I considered simple glass door. but Since I didnt see any examples of
it being done this way, i strayed away from it. I dont know enough to
strike out on my own like that. Scared there may be something
unforseen. Of course at this point...


We built a similar cabinet with rails and stiles. The upper opening
had a glass door (no wood around the glass) then one overlay drawer
below and then an overlay door below that.
We actually duplicated this cabinet on either side of the TV opening.
If I can get my mail reader to do it, I'll try to post a picture of it
over in ABPW.


Thanks, Ill take a look over there.


Mike O.


--
Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:09:56 -0500, dnoyeB
wrote:

I considered simple glass door. but Since I didnt see any examples of
it being done this way, i strayed away from it. I dont know enough to
strike out on my own like that. Scared there may be something
unforseen. Of course at this point...

If you want an overlay door (or flush door) to match your drawers
below, either type could be used on the upper opening of that unit.

Mike O.