I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.



Warren:

That's crazy! Which showroom were you going to?

If you're going to pay in cash (US greenbacks), in person, at the showroom
you don't have to give them any personal info! Of course, that being said,
you would probably have problems with any warranty work should you need it.

Which model are you interested in? I live about 85 miles from the
Bellingham, WA showroom. If 'push really comes to shove' and your talking
about the WA showroom, I could come over and buy it for you! (Course you'd
need to pay my gas and roundtrip ferry toll. grin).

Would you have to pay 'import' fees to get it back into Canada?

Jay

"Jay" wrote in message
et...
"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell
inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.



Warren:

That's crazy! Which showroom were you going to?

If you're going to pay in cash (US greenbacks), in person, at the showroom
you don't have to give them any personal info! Of course, that being
said,
you would probably have problems with any warranty work should you need
it.

Which model are you interested in? I live about 85 miles from the
Bellingham, WA showroom. If 'push really comes to shove' and your talking
about the WA showroom, I could come over and buy it for you! (Course
you'd
need to pay my gas and roundtrip ferry toll. grin).

Would you have to pay 'import' fees to get it back into Canada?

Jay



Hi Jay...I appreciate the offer, but I'm talking about the Muncy, PA
showroom. Washington is a wee bit far for me to go. I would have to pay duty
at the border which is 6%...then of course all our moderate sales taxes
which work out to 15%. I understand that I would also need to pay the local
sales tax which is another 6%. So, when all is said and done it works out to
$1130.00CDN ($950 US) for the 3 HP model and $986.00 ($850 US) for the 2 HP
model. That is for the 8" models.
The only option that I'd go with up here would be the General
International, and the 6" model would come to $925 CDN and the 8" model is
$2195.
Pretty sad, eh? Anyhow, I'm just going to keep calling until they have
them in stock and then make the 12 hour round trip and do just that...cash
in hand. Hopefully they don't make me speak or they might hear a Canadian
accent, take me out back and string me up for attempted treason or
something. Ridiculous.

Warren.

What are you going to do if you have a problem?
Heve you looked at some Canadian names on Chinese tools? KING... SAMONA....
CANWOOD?
"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.

"Warren" wrote in message
...


Hi Jay...I appreciate the offer, but I'm talking about the Muncy, PA
showroom. Washington is a wee bit far for me to go. I would have to pay
duty
at the border which is 6%...then of course all our moderate sales taxes
which work out to 15%. I understand that I would also need to pay the
local
sales tax which is another 6%. So, when all is said and done it works out
to
$1130.00CDN ($950 US) for the 3 HP model and $986.00 ($850 US) for the 2
HP
model. That is for the 8" models.
The only option that I'd go with up here would be the General
International, and the 6" model would come to $925 CDN and the 8" model is
$2195.
Pretty sad, eh? Anyhow, I'm just going to keep calling until they have
them in stock and then make the 12 hour round trip and do just that...cash
in hand. Hopefully they don't make me speak or they might hear a Canadian
accent, take me out back and string me up for attempted treason or
something. Ridiculous.

Warren.


Whatever you do, don't say "aboot".

"Warren" wrote in message
...

snip

Hi Jay...I appreciate the offer, but I'm talking about the Muncy, PA
showroom. Washington is a wee bit far for me to go. I would have to pay
duty
at the border which is 6%...then of course all our moderate sales taxes
which work out to 15%. I understand that I would also need to pay the
local
sales tax which is another 6%. So, when all is said and done it works out
to
$1130.00CDN ($950 US) for the 3 HP model and $986.00 ($850 US) for the 2
HP
model. That is for the 8" models.
The only option that I'd go with up here would be the General
International, and the 6" model would come to $925 CDN and the 8" model is
$2195.
Pretty sad, eh? Anyhow, I'm just going to keep calling until they have
them in stock and then make the 12 hour round trip and do just that...cash
in hand. Hopefully they don't make me speak or they might hear a Canadian
accent, take me out back and string me up for attempted treason or
something. Ridiculous.

Warren.

Good luck, let us know how the whole thing turns out.

Jay

"Tom Woodman" wrote in message
...
What are you going to do if you have a problem?
Heve you looked at some Canadian names on Chinese tools? KING...
SAMONA....
CANWOOD?

Well, judging from other peoples experiences it doesn't seem that much
goes wrong with the Grizzly products. If some small parts have to be
replaced now and again I would greatly look forward to a nice long bike ride
through the Appalachians to go buy the part. I also understand that many
parts are interchangeable from one company's product to the next so I could
also source them out that way.
If the motor becomes an issue that is something I am very familiar with
replacing. I have never owned a jointer before and therefore have little
idea as to what parts will or will not be a problem, but that is a bridge
that I will cross when faced with it.
The King equivalent that I did check out, while it seemed a solid enough
machine, only had a 1.5 HP motor, poor location of the start/stop button,
shorter table length, shorter fence, no mobile base and was just plain
ugly...all this for a quoted price of $1500 after tax.
I think Canwood is only sold at House of Tools and there is none out
here. Everything I've read about them also seems to indicate that they are
decent but not fantastic. I have to admit that I've never even heard of
Samona.
Basically I have no intention of settling for something decent if a
little extra work will get me something great.

Warren.

have you looked at the King series??? they look very similar... and they are
probably sold localy.

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113

Christian


"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.

"Locutus" wrote in message
...

Whatever you do, don't say "aboot".




"Yes, now aboot the warranty....oh damn...."

A few people who post on the CDN WW magazine site have the following knock off
of the Delta DJ-20X5 and have nice things to say about it. I believe the price
is about $1150 or $400 less than the delta. Cheers, JG

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113&ID=918

Christian wrote:

have you looked at the King series??? they look very similar... and they are
probably sold localy.

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113

Christian

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.

"Warren" wrote in message
...

"Jay" wrote in message
et...
"Warren" wrote in message
...
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought
I'd
settle it once and for all.
I just received a phone call from a rep. at Grizzly after enquiring
about holding one for me so I can drive down and pick it up and she
told
me
that they won't even sell to Canadian residents in their showroom, let
alone
using a brokerage company to ship to.
Bottom line I guess is if you want one you'd better waltz into the
showroom with a fistful of U.S. cash and don't give them your address.
Sigh. I keep reading rumours that the company they have an agreement
with up here is Busy Bee Tools which, as far as I can tell, sell
inferior
products at double the price.
Just thought I'd share the info.

Warren.



Warren:

That's crazy! Which showroom were you going to?

If you're going to pay in cash (US greenbacks), in person, at the
showroom
you don't have to give them any personal info! Of course, that being
said,
you would probably have problems with any warranty work should you need
it.

Which model are you interested in? I live about 85 miles from the
Bellingham, WA showroom. If 'push really comes to shove' and your
talking
about the WA showroom, I could come over and buy it for you! (Course
you'd
need to pay my gas and roundtrip ferry toll. grin).

Would you have to pay 'import' fees to get it back into Canada?

Jay



Hi Jay...I appreciate the offer, but I'm talking about the Muncy, PA
showroom. Washington is a wee bit far for me to go. I would have to pay
duty
at the border which is 6%...then of course all our moderate sales taxes
which work out to 15%. I understand that I would also need to pay the
local
sales tax which is another 6%. So, when all is said and done it works out
to
$1130.00CDN ($950 US) for the 3 HP model and $986.00 ($850 US) for the 2
HP
model. That is for the 8" models.
The only option that I'd go with up here would be the General
International, and the 6" model would come to $925 CDN and the 8" model is
$2195.
Pretty sad, eh? Anyhow, I'm just going to keep calling until they have
them in stock and then make the 12 hour round trip and do just that...cash
in hand. Hopefully they don't make me speak or they might hear a Canadian
accent, take me out back and string me up for attempted treason or
something. Ridiculous.

With all the other accents in Pennsy, your Canadian burr should be
unnoticeable. You need a buddy in the area, so you can take the machine
over, assemble it, check table flatness, check fence straightness, and run
some wood through it. Lets you get going with warrantee replacements, and
also creates a "used" machine to bring through Customs and to value for
sales tax...eh? Knock, say, 40% off the value of a new machine.

If you're really stuck on a Griz and you're in greater Montreal, Contact me.
I'm just inside the US just off "the 15". I would be willing to serve as a
delivery point.

You can reach me at

-Steve

"JGS" wrote in message
...
A few people who post on the CDN WW magazine site have the following knock
off
of the Delta DJ-20X5 and have nice things to say about it. I believe the
price
is about $1150 or $400 less than the delta. Cheers, JG

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113&ID=918


I did look at that King jointer and it does seem to be pretty nice.
People do seem happy with it but in the end it is $1400 after tax. That's
still $350 more for less machine. Nontheless, it is probably what I will end
up with if the Grizzly doesn't happen.

Thanks for all the input everyone...and the great offers.I'll let you
know what happens when I finally have my jointer.

Warren.

Tom Woodman wrote:
What are you going to do if you have a problem?
Heve you looked at some Canadian names on Chinese tools? KING... SAMONA....
CANWOOD?

General International...

Warren wrote:
I'm trying desperately to purchase a Grizzly jointer, and I read a
couple of threads regarding Grizzly dealing with Canadians so I thought I'd
settle it once and for all.

Have you looked at King Industrial? There are a number of people on the
Canadian Woodworking forums that are happy with their King jointers.
They even have a DJ20 clone.

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113

Chris

"B a r r y" wrote in message
...
Tom Woodman wrote:
What are you going to do if you have a problem?
Heve you looked at some Canadian names on Chinese tools? KING...
SAMONA....
CANWOOD?

General International...

$2195 for the 8" as opposed to $1130. That is after all taxes and duties and
exchange.

sorry if you mentioned this earlier, but I don't have the first couple of
posts...

warren, when compairing prices, don't forget to factor in duty when you try
and bring that thing back accross the border. It was made in Asia, so
they'll they are going to want a cut.... Have you tried contacting Busy
Bee? They are the reason you can't buy Grizzly in Canada. They sell pretty
much the same tools with a differnt name on them (same colour too). For
that matter, I was once told that they could order you any machine from the
Grizzly catalogue. give them a try. www.busybeetools.com

"Warren" wrote in message
...

"JGS" wrote in message
...
A few people who post on the CDN WW magazine site have the following
knock
off
of the Delta DJ-20X5 and have nice things to say about it. I believe the
price
is about $1150 or $400 less than the delta. Cheers, JG

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=113&ID=918


I did look at that King jointer and it does seem to be pretty nice.
People do seem happy with it but in the end it is $1400 after tax. That's
still $350 more for less machine. Nontheless, it is probably what I will
end
up with if the Grizzly doesn't happen.

Thanks for all the input everyone...and the great offers.I'll let you
know what happens when I finally have my jointer.

Warren.

"2fatty" wrote in message
...
sorry if you mentioned this earlier, but I don't have the first couple of
posts...

warren, when compairing prices, don't forget to factor in duty when you
try
and bring that thing back accross the border. It was made in Asia, so
they'll they are going to want a cut.... Have you tried contacting Busy
Bee? They are the reason you can't buy Grizzly in Canada. They sell
pretty
much the same tools with a differnt name on them (same colour too). For
that matter, I was once told that they could order you any machine from
the
Grizzly catalogue. give them a try. www.busybeetools.com


Yes, all of my pricing that I have mentioned has included the local
sales tax, the 6% duty on Taiwanese machinery, exchange rates and Canadian
taxes that I have to pay. Even with all of that factored in there is no
comparison. I have looked at the Craftex stuff at Busy Bee and a local
moulding/flooring shop has one. It is flimsy junk.
I never heard of Busy Bee importing a Grizzly tool, though. I will give
them a call right now and see what the manager has to say about it and post
my findings.

Thanks,
Warren.