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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
Last week I received my Rikon 18" band saw equipped with a 5/8" blade. Who
knows what brand. Any way I got the saw up and running and was not disappointed in the performance of the blade contrary to what some here have witnessed with their blades. Not great but it had no drift and cut relatively cleanly. Yesterday I put my new 1" wide Timber wolf blade on the saw and it cut OK, certainly not any smoother than the OEM blade but tracked straight also. But there is this clicking noise as the back of the blade whacks the rear bearing. Click, click, click... So I go around to the side and notice that the blade moves forward and backward a good 1/16 inch with each revolution of the blade. I know it is with each revolution because I see the weld spot with each click. I used a white pencil to mark the high spot while the saw was running. I called Timberwolf and talked to Tom and he indicated that he has heard of 2 other instances of this happening with a Rikon band saw. In particular the new model. Not to slam Rikon he asked me to take the Timberwolf blade and cut it open at the weld and check to see if the back of the band is straight. He indicated that a tape measure should be straight enough to help indicate a bow in the back of the blade. My son noticed that the blade bowed about 2' down from the weld. a 2' steel rule confirmed the bow to be about 1/16", 2' up from the weld. I relayed this to Tom. I noticed that the weld, before cutting the lower part of the band was off set about 1/16". So I put the 3/4" Timberwolf blade on. Same problem. Wobble from front to back. I installed the 1/2" blade. Same problem but not as bad. Installed the 1/4" blade, same problem about as bad as the 1/2" blade. I reinstalled the OEM blade and it tracks nice and straight by comparison. I called Tom back and he is skeptical that there could be 4 bad blades in 4 different sizes and I totally agreed. He is going to do some checking in the morning and send me out a new 1" blade. I called Rikon and mentioned the problem. Rod at Rikon asked if the original blade tracked OK, I said Yes. Then asked if the new blade tracked OK. I said No. Then he asked of the new blade was a Timberwolf. Yes, I said. He indicated that Timberwolf makes their blades a little long and that they needed to initially be tensioned tighter than the indicator points out before proceeding to the flutter test. Sooooo. I go out and adjust the tension on the 3/4" blade to the tension that a 1-1/4 blade would take trying to get the wobble out. Damn tight basically. That did not help at all. So I put the OEM blade back on and again it tracks fine. Once again I put the 3/4" Timber wolf blade on and it continues to wobble front to back. So this time I take the white pencil and turn the saw on and gently let the pencil mark the back of the blade and turn the saw off. In the exact spot that my son saw the high spot on the 1" blade I see the pencil mark on the 3/4" blade. 2' up from the weld. I'm betting that the other 2 blades have a high spot 2' up from the weld. BTY, I measured the length of the 1" blade that I cut open. It was 141-15/16" long. It was short the width of the blade I used to cut the blade open. It appears that this blade is exactly the stated length, 142". I was beginning to suspect the Rikon saw and Rod at Rikon indicated that he would walk me through changing the camber of the wheels to fix the problem if the extra tension did not work out. I am thinking that the Timberwolf blades are the problem as 2 of them have the high spots 2' up from the welds. I am guessing that their jig may be out of calibration and badly. Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. Any thoughts? |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Leon" wrote in message
Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. I've been having good luck with Lenox blades ... FWIW. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Swingman" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. I've been having good luck with Lenox blades ... FWIW. Buying Locally? I need 142". |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I had the exact same problem with two Timberwolf blades I purchased last
year. No more Timberwolf blades will be installed on my Jet 18, they just ain't worth the hassle. I've been using Woodcraft's house brand since and have not had any problems, they cut fine and are half the price. --dave "Leon" wrote in message t... Last week I received my Rikon 18" band saw equipped with a 5/8" blade. Who knows what brand. Any way I got the saw up and running and was not disappointed in the performance of the blade contrary to what some here have witnessed with their blades. Not great but it had no drift and cut relatively cleanly. Yesterday I put my new 1" wide Timber wolf blade on the saw and it cut OK, certainly not any smoother than the OEM blade but tracked straight also. But there is this clicking noise as the back of the blade whacks the rear bearing. Click, click, click... So I go around to the side and notice that the blade moves forward and backward a good 1/16 inch with each revolution of the blade. I know it is with each revolution because I see the weld spot with each click. I used a white pencil to mark the high spot while the saw was running. I called Timberwolf and talked to Tom and he indicated that he has heard of 2 other instances of this happening with a Rikon band saw. In particular the new model. Not to slam Rikon he asked me to take the Timberwolf blade and cut it open at the weld and check to see if the back of the band is straight. He indicated that a tape measure should be straight enough to help indicate a bow in the back of the blade. My son noticed that the blade bowed about 2' down from the weld. a 2' steel rule confirmed the bow to be about 1/16", 2' up from the weld. I relayed this to Tom. I noticed that the weld, before cutting the lower part of the band was off set about 1/16". So I put the 3/4" Timberwolf blade on. Same problem. Wobble from front to back. I installed the 1/2" blade. Same problem but not as bad. Installed the 1/4" blade, same problem about as bad as the 1/2" blade. I reinstalled the OEM blade and it tracks nice and straight by comparison. I called Tom back and he is skeptical that there could be 4 bad blades in 4 different sizes and I totally agreed. He is going to do some checking in the morning and send me out a new 1" blade. I called Rikon and mentioned the problem. Rod at Rikon asked if the original blade tracked OK, I said Yes. Then asked if the new blade tracked OK. I said No. Then he asked of the new blade was a Timberwolf. Yes, I said. He indicated that Timberwolf makes their blades a little long and that they needed to initially be tensioned tighter than the indicator points out before proceeding to the flutter test. Sooooo. I go out and adjust the tension on the 3/4" blade to the tension that a 1-1/4 blade would take trying to get the wobble out. Damn tight basically. That did not help at all. So I put the OEM blade back on and again it tracks fine. Once again I put the 3/4" Timber wolf blade on and it continues to wobble front to back. So this time I take the white pencil and turn the saw on and gently let the pencil mark the back of the blade and turn the saw off. In the exact spot that my son saw the high spot on the 1" blade I see the pencil mark on the 3/4" blade. 2' up from the weld. I'm betting that the other 2 blades have a high spot 2' up from the weld. BTY, I measured the length of the 1" blade that I cut open. It was 141-15/16" long. It was short the width of the blade I used to cut the blade open. It appears that this blade is exactly the stated length, 142". I was beginning to suspect the Rikon saw and Rod at Rikon indicated that he would walk me through changing the camber of the wheels to fix the problem if the extra tension did not work out. I am thinking that the Timberwolf blades are the problem as 2 of them have the high spots 2' up from the welds. I am guessing that their jig may be out of calibration and badly. Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. Any thoughts? |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
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"Leon" wrote: "Swingman" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. I've been having good luck with Lenox blades ... FWIW. Buying Locally? I need 142". All I can get locally, is a selection of Starrett band saw blades. I bought a 1/4" one and it's fine by me...I have NO idea how Starrett stacks up. It could even be a 'badge engineering' thing...branding for sale. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:19:51 GMT, "Dave Jackson"
wrote: I had the exact same problem with two Timberwolf blades I purchased last year. No more Timberwolf blades will be installed on my Jet 18, they just ain't worth the hassle. I've been using Woodcraft's house brand since and have not had any problems, they cut fine and are half the price. --dave For some reason woodcraft marks the timberwolf blades up by about 100%. Perhaps it has something to do with having a house brand. Watching this with interest as I'm about to order my first "real" band saw. -Leuf |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Leon" wrote in message
Buying Locally? I need 142". Unfortunately no, the old fashioned way ... on the phone. I wish Iturra would hurry up and get that website up and running. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I've always used Delta brand bandsaw blades available in local stores
and have not had any problems with them. I was tempted to try another brand, ie Timberwolf, when I decided to do some major resawing. Some years back there were several positive posts here about Timberwolf. Another thought... "Name brand" products that have proven quality often change the product to increase profit (at the expense of quality). Unfortunately, that is so common today compared to 30-40 years ago. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I have the older Rikon 18" and had the same problem with a 1" blade. The blade
was longer then all the blades I have also. The clicking sound was there also. I tried to file the weld joint to see if that helped and it didn't. No more timber wolf blades for me either. All the other blades I have work great. "Leon" wrote: Last week I received my Rikon 18" band saw equipped with a 5/8" blade. Who knows what brand. Any way I got the saw up and running and was not disappointed in the performance of the blade contrary to what some here have witnessed with their blades. Not great but it had no drift and cut relatively cleanly. Yesterday I put my new 1" wide Timber wolf blade on the saw and it cut OK, certainly not any smoother than the OEM blade but tracked straight also. But there is this clicking noise as the back of the blade whacks the rear bearing. Click, click, click... So I go around to the side and notice that the blade moves forward and backward a good 1/16 inch with each revolution of the blade. I know it is with each revolution because I see the weld spot with each click. I used a white pencil to mark the high spot while the saw was running. I called Timberwolf and talked to Tom and he indicated that he has heard of 2 other instances of this happening with a Rikon band saw. In particular the new model. Not to slam Rikon he asked me to take the Timberwolf blade and cut it open at the weld and check to see if the back of the band is straight. He indicated that a tape measure should be straight enough to help indicate a bow in the back of the blade. My son noticed that the blade bowed about 2' down from the weld. a 2' steel rule confirmed the bow to be about 1/16", 2' up from the weld. I relayed this to Tom. I noticed that the weld, before cutting the lower part of the band was off set about 1/16". So I put the 3/4" Timberwolf blade on. Same problem. Wobble from front to back. I installed the 1/2" blade. Same problem but not as bad. Installed the 1/4" blade, same problem about as bad as the 1/2" blade. I reinstalled the OEM blade and it tracks nice and straight by comparison. I called Tom back and he is skeptical that there could be 4 bad blades in 4 different sizes and I totally agreed. He is going to do some checking in the morning and send me out a new 1" blade. I called Rikon and mentioned the problem. Rod at Rikon asked if the original blade tracked OK, I said Yes. Then asked if the new blade tracked OK. I said No. Then he asked of the new blade was a Timberwolf. Yes, I said. He indicated that Timberwolf makes their blades a little long and that they needed to initially be tensioned tighter than the indicator points out before proceeding to the flutter test. Sooooo. I go out and adjust the tension on the 3/4" blade to the tension that a 1-1/4 blade would take trying to get the wobble out. Damn tight basically. That did not help at all. So I put the OEM blade back on and again it tracks fine. Once again I put the 3/4" Timber wolf blade on and it continues to wobble front to back. So this time I take the white pencil and turn the saw on and gently let the pencil mark the back of the blade and turn the saw off. In the exact spot that my son saw the high spot on the 1" blade I see the pencil mark on the 3/4" blade. 2' up from the weld. I'm betting that the other 2 blades have a high spot 2' up from the weld. BTY, I measured the length of the 1" blade that I cut open. It was 141-15/16" long. It was short the width of the blade I used to cut the blade open. It appears that this blade is exactly the stated length, 142". I was beginning to suspect the Rikon saw and Rod at Rikon indicated that he would walk me through changing the camber of the wheels to fix the problem if the extra tension did not work out. I am thinking that the Timberwolf blades are the problem as 2 of them have the high spots 2' up from the welds. I am guessing that their jig may be out of calibration and badly. Tomorrow I plan to buy another blade, different brand, and see what happens. Any thoughts? |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Swingman" wrote in message ... Unfortunately no, the old fashioned way ... on the phone. I wish Iturra would hurry up and get that website up and running. I see Woodcraft stocks a house brand in the length that I need. I think I am going to pick one up and see how it does. If I get straight tracking I am going to rule out the BS. and I'll call Inturra and order some. I Googled the group and found that there are several complaints about Timberwolf since last summer. I had to go back to 2003 to get good responses. Since the 142" appears to be unique to the Rikon I suspect a large batch was made up and they were not welded properly or aligned correctly or perhaps they weld them up as ordered and all of mine were made at the same time which would explain a lot. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Phisherman" wrote in message ... I've always used Delta brand bandsaw blades available in local stores and have not had any problems with them. I was tempted to try another brand, ie Timberwolf, when I decided to do some major resawing. Some years back there were several positive posts here about Timberwolf. Another thought... "Name brand" products that have proven quality often change the product to increase profit (at the expense of quality). Unfortunately, that is so common today compared to 30-40 years ago. I agree. Or the welder had an off day. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
Leon wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... Unfortunately no, the old fashioned way ... on the phone. I wish Iturra would hurry up and get that website up and running. I see Woodcraft stocks a house brand in the length that I need. I think I am going to pick one up and see how it does. If I get straight tracking I am going to rule out the BS. and I'll call Inturra and order some. I Googled the group and found that there are several complaints about Timberwolf since last summer. I had to go back to 2003 to get good responses. Since the 142" appears to be unique to the Rikon I suspect a large batch was made up and they were not welded properly or aligned correctly or perhaps they weld them up as ordered and all of mine were made at the same time which would explain a lot. I've only one Timberwolf blade, which I bought a month or so ago (105" 6tpi 3/8") for my Grizzly G0555 bandsaw, and it works very well for me. It tracks true, without any drift. -jav |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Javier" wrote in message ... I've only one Timberwolf blade, which I bought a month or so ago (105" 6tpi 3/8") for my Grizzly G0555 bandsaw, and it works very well for me. It tracks true, without any drift. Like every thing, mistakes can be made. I suspect that the 105" is a common size that may have been in stock for some time. I have read a lot of complaints about Timberwold blades bought in the last 6 months and the rep did admit that they were having trouble with some of the 1" blades. His first suggestion was to cut my blade open to see if the back was straight. It was pretty straight but had a high spot in a similar location to the high spot on my 3/4" blade. With my Rikon being relative new and using a unique length my Timberwolf blades may have been made for my order and all made incorrectly. I think I just got a bad batch. But I need to try another brand to rule out the Band Saw although another brand blade does fine. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
Leon wrote: Last week I received my Rikon 18" band saw equipped with a 5/8" blade. Who I called Timberwolf and talked to Tom and he indicated that he has heard of 2 other instances of this happening with a Rikon band saw. In particular the new model. I don't know if this is any help, but I have the Rikon 18" bandsaw (although it might be the "older" one. At the time of purchase [November 2005] I was told that Rikon was coming out with a new one soon). I use a 1/2 Timberwolf and it tracks great and I don't get a clicking sound. But I will fire it up again tonight without the dust collector on to make sure. I have certainly never noticed a clicking, bad tracking or any other defect. And, the tension I put on it is very low.. definitely below the 1/2" mark on the tensioning gauge. I want so say that it's tensioned around the 1/4 mark, but I'm not sure. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I have timberwolf blades, haven's noted significant tracking problems
and love the way they actually cut and they seem to last. Have had delta, olson blades which were just awful. MBR |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I have been using the Lennox baldes also, and have been very happy with
them. There is a guy here who welds them up for small guys like me, and for the lumber mills. There was another post here recently about the Timberwolf blades breaking. I asked him about them. He said that they are more popular back east (I am in Oregon), and that they did have a bit of a reputation for quality control problems. I have never used one, and don't plan to. robo hippy |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Leon" wrote in message I suspect that the 105" is a common size that may have been in stock for some time. You're right ... 105" is the common length for Delta, Jet and Sears 14" bandsaws with riser installed ... and maybe Grizzly? -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
Swingman wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message I suspect that the 105" is a common size that may have been in stock for some time. You're right ... 105" is the common length for Delta, Jet and Sears 14" bandsaws with riser installed ... and maybe Grizzly? It would appear to be the case. The G0555 with the riser installed uses 105" blades. -jav |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Swingman" wrote in message ... I learned today that Circle Saw makes BS blades. I ordered one this morning and will pick it up after 3. 142" x 3/4" 3tpi, $18.99. I do not know if it is any good but maybe it will indicate where my tracking problem is. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"robo hippy" wrote in message ups.com... I have been using the Lennox baldes also, and have been very happy with them. There is a guy here who welds them up for small guys like me, and for the lumber mills. There was another post here recently about the Timberwolf blades breaking. I asked him about them. He said that they are more popular back east (I am in Oregon), and that they did have a bit of a reputation for quality control problems. I have never used one, and don't plan to. robo hippy I do not think it is a blade problem as much as, like you said, a quality control problem when welding. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"bf" wrote in message oups.com... I don't know if this is any help, but I have the Rikon 18" bandsaw (although it might be the "older" one. At the time of purchase [November 2005] I was told that Rikon was coming out with a new one soon). I believe you have the 10-240 model. the new model came out in late January and is now the 10-345. I use a 1/2 Timberwolf and it tracks great and I don't get a clicking sound. The clicking I hear is the back of the blade hitting the thrus bearing. But I will fire it up again tonight without the dust collector on to make sure. I have certainly never noticed a clicking, bad tracking or any other defect. I am sure your blade is doing fine. It is obvious, autibly and visibly. I do not think Timberwolf is a bad blade although I have never use them before. I think in this instance it is a QC problem. And, the tension I put on it is very low.. definitely below the 1/2" mark on the tensioning gauge. I want so say that it's tensioned around the 1/4 mark, but I'm not sure. My blades look like they flutter at the tight setting. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Leon" wrote in message . com... "bf" wrote in message oups.com... I don't know if this is any help, but I have the Rikon 18" bandsaw (although it might be the "older" one. At the time of purchase [November 2005] I was told that Rikon was coming out with a new one soon). I believe you have the 10-240 model. the new model came out in late January and is now the 10-345. I use a 1/2 Timberwolf and it tracks great and I don't get a clicking sound. The clicking I hear is the back of the blade hitting the thrus bearing. But I will fire it up again tonight without the dust collector on to make sure. I have certainly never noticed a clicking, bad tracking or any other defect. I am sure your blade is doing fine. It is obvious, autibly and visibly. I do not think Timberwolf is a bad blade although I have never use them before. I think in this instance it is a QC problem. And, the tension I put on it is very low.. definitely below the 1/2" mark on the tensioning gauge. I want so say that it's tensioned around the 1/4 mark, but I'm not sure. My blades look like they flutter at the tight setting. Leon- I've got the same flutter problem with my 1" TW blade on my Rikon though it doesn't click. It does cut quite well. The original blade had a kink in it that I was unable to get out....my fault in transporting the saw. How far forward can you adjust the side thrust bearings on the new model? I can only get about 9/16" coverage before the bearing block hits the guard. This leaves nearly 1/4" of blade behind the gullet not supported by the bearings. Which model mobile base did you get and from who(m)? Gary |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
On 10 Feb 2006 08:44:11 -0800, "gadgetman"
wrote: I have timberwolf blades, haven's noted significant tracking problems and love the way they actually cut and they seem to last. Have had delta, olson blades which were just awful. MBR ============== After using my "little" Sears `12 in bandsaw for almost 40 years (with Timberwolf blades exclusively for at least the last 20 years ..) I finally though it was about timne to get a "little" better Bandsaw... I do very little resawing (naturally I don't ..who does with a 12 in craftsman) and really do not wish to buy a 14 inched and add a riser...So I was thinking about The Jets and the Rikons... NOW you guys tell me I will also have (or maybe have ) problems with the brand of Blades I have been using for a long long time... DUH... back to the drawing boards I guess... Bob G. |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
hello,
I have a 1" timberwolf on my HF raised BS and am more than happy with it! cyrille "GeeDubb" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message . com... "bf" wrote in message oups.com... I don't know if this is any help, but I have the Rikon 18" bandsaw (although it might be the "older" one. At the time of purchase [November 2005] I was told that Rikon was coming out with a new one soon). I believe you have the 10-240 model. the new model came out in late January and is now the 10-345. I use a 1/2 Timberwolf and it tracks great and I don't get a clicking sound. The clicking I hear is the back of the blade hitting the thrus bearing. But I will fire it up again tonight without the dust collector on to make sure. I have certainly never noticed a clicking, bad tracking or any other defect. I am sure your blade is doing fine. It is obvious, autibly and visibly. I do not think Timberwolf is a bad blade although I have never use them before. I think in this instance it is a QC problem. And, the tension I put on it is very low.. definitely below the 1/2" mark on the tensioning gauge. I want so say that it's tensioned around the 1/4 mark, but I'm not sure. My blades look like they flutter at the tight setting. Leon- I've got the same flutter problem with my 1" TW blade on my Rikon though it doesn't click. It does cut quite well. The original blade had a kink in it that I was unable to get out....my fault in transporting the saw. How far forward can you adjust the side thrust bearings on the new model? I can only get about 9/16" coverage before the bearing block hits the guard. This leaves nearly 1/4" of blade behind the gullet not supported by the bearings. Which model mobile base did you get and from who(m)? Gary |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
I get my Timberwolf blades thru a local company that buys bulk blade stock
from them and welds them up to any size. Love the blades altho I have had one problem with a blade breaking which had nothing to do with Timberwolf but the company I bought it from. Of course they replaced it but not the kind of sound I enjoy coming out of my saw unexpectedly. For a second I thought one of my ex-wives had finally taken a shot at me. BTW, Timberwolf does provide special tensioning instructions as they do run under less tension than a normal blade. "robo hippy" wrote in message ups.com... I have been using the Lennox baldes also, and have been very happy with them. There is a guy here who welds them up for small guys like me, and for the lumber mills. There was another post here recently about the Timberwolf blades breaking. I asked him about them. He said that they are more popular back east (I am in Oregon), and that they did have a bit of a reputation for quality control problems. I have never used one, and don't plan to. robo hippy |
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Timberwolf Blades. Is any one else having problems with them?
"Bob G." wrote in message ... After using my "little" Sears `12 in bandsaw for almost 40 years (with Timberwolf blades exclusively for at least the last 20 years ..) I finally though it was about timne to get a "little" better Bandsaw... LOL. Well my Craftsman 12" BS was only 23 years old. I did in deed do some slow resawing with it, 5" Maple. Did I say slow? I do very little resawing (naturally I don't ..who does with a 12 in craftsman) and really do not wish to buy a 14 inched and add a riser...So I was thinking about The Jets and the Rikons... That was my idealogy. I refuse to believe that the Timberwolf blades are bad. Have you ever opened up a bag of peanuts and a few in the bag are just rottin? I am thinking a bad batch of which I got 4. Anyway I had a new blade made up today locally and I picked it up today. No wobble. So in this case my problem with blade wobble seems to point towards these 4 Timberwold blades. Timberwolf is sending me a new 1" blade and I am betting it will be just fine. NOW you guys tell me I will also have (or maybe have ) problems with the brand of Blades I have been using for a long long time... I think it is an unfortunate fluke. Let me tell you that I nave been dealing with Rikon and Timberwolf and both parties are genuinely interested in solving the problem. The fact that another, 3rd brand blade tracks well on the Rikon BS is a relief to me. That said Rod with Rikon seems eager to help with saw adjustments if they are needed. I did not want to do any adjustments until I tried the 3rd brand blade. |
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"GeeDubb" wrote in message ... Leon- I've got the same flutter problem with my 1" TW blade on my Rikon though it doesn't click. It does cut quite well. The original blade had a kink in it that I was unable to get out....my fault in transporting the saw. How far forward can you adjust the side thrust bearings on the new model? I can only get about 9/16" coverage before the bearing block hits the guard. This leaves nearly 1/4" of blade behind the gullet not supported by the bearings. On a 1" blade I can move the side bearings up past the bottom of the gullet. Too far actually, so the forward travel is plenty. The bearings are lower than the front bottom of the guard. The guard is cut higher at the back. I would gladly supply you with a picture if you like. Which model mobile base did you get and from who(m)? I bought the Rockler universal base that you supply the wood to complete. I think it is on sale right now for about $37. |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:54:30 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: "Swingman" wrote in message ... Unfortunately no, the old fashioned way ... on the phone. I wish Iturra would hurry up and get that website up and running. I see Woodcraft stocks a house brand in the length that I need. I think I am going to pick one up and see how it does. If I get straight tracking I am going to rule out the BS. and I'll call Inturra and order some. snip Leon, at the local Woodcraft store (Raleigh, NC) their 'own' brand is actually Timberwolf - I don't know if this is universally true. Tom |
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"TWS" wrote in message ... Leon, at the local Woodcraft store (Raleigh, NC) their 'own' brand is actually Timberwolf - I don't know if this is universally true. Thanks for the heads up. On the on line site the blades look different than the Timberwolf blades and I bought their house brand locally some years ago and they too looked different. Anyway the local store did not have any house brand in stock. They referred me to another local shop make me a blade today and fortunately for me it tracks fine. |
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"Bruce Barnett" wrote in message
According to the Iturra catalog, (and perhaps someone can confirm this) most dealers cannot use the name "Timberwolf" for legal reasons. I'm not certain because "Timberwolf" isn't mentioned by name. Iturra sells the blades, and calls them somthing else as well. It's very confusing to me, specially when someone says Timberwolf blades suck, and the PS Wood from Woodcraft are great. LOL ... the one thing American public education system is really good at fostering is gullibility. It's all about marketing. After all, Eggland's Best eggs are _perceived_ by many to be worth a dollar +/- more a dozen than any other commercially produced egg because of the packaging and stamp. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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I had the same problem about 8 or 9 years ago. I bought a couple of the 3/4
resaw blades and they had bad welds then, they sent replacements and they were the same. The blades cut fast, but the surface is not nearly as good as "The Woodslicer" from Highland Hardware - about $30 each. Anytime I have serious work and need the best finish, I use a woodslicer, Currently my last Timberwolf is on the saw for cutting firewood to length for my woodstove, and is great for getting turning stock ready for the lathe. HTH, Mike |
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I just found (Google) the old thread about this. It is dated Nov 8, 1998.
I used to post here a a fair amount, now I just lurk mostly. Mike |
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Doh!
Should have looked on the next page.... I wrote bandsaw blade 'thesis' on Jan 8, 1999 and it addresses the problems with the Suffolk blades. not sure if this link will work.. but here it is anyhow. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.w...f 99d0b3d845a |
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"Leon" wrote in message . com... "GeeDubb" wrote in message ... Leon- I've got the same flutter problem with my 1" TW blade on my Rikon though it doesn't click. It does cut quite well. The original blade had a kink in it that I was unable to get out....my fault in transporting the saw. How far forward can you adjust the side thrust bearings on the new model? I can only get about 9/16" coverage before the bearing block hits the guard. This leaves nearly 1/4" of blade behind the gullet not supported by the bearings. On a 1" blade I can move the side bearings up past the bottom of the gullet. Too far actually, so the forward travel is plenty. The bearings are lower than the front bottom of the guard. The guard is cut higher at the back. I would gladly supply you with a picture if you like. Which model mobile base did you get and from who(m)? I bought the Rockler universal base that you supply the wood to complete. I think it is on sale right now for about $37. Thanks Leon. I've got a Rockler base on another tool and don't care for it much. The wheel surfaces are too hard and slide on my epoxied floor too easily. If you could send me a photo of the bearing/guide set up I'd appreciate it. I'd ask you to post it on ABPW but Qwest drops them quickly or doesn't post them at all most of the time. (Usenet Replayer is my friend!) Gary (grwilliams at qwest dot net) |
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Please keep us informed.
I have used Timberwolf blades for years on my 18" Jet bandsaw and never have had a problem. Dave |
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Leon wrote: "bf" wrote in message oups.com... I don't know if this is any help, but I have the Rikon 18" bandsaw (although it might be the "older" one. At the time of purchase [November 2005] I was told that Rikon was coming out with a new one soon). I believe you have the 10-240 model. the new model came out in late January and is now the 10-345. I use a 1/2 Timberwolf and it tracks great and I don't get a clicking sound. The clicking I hear is the back of the blade hitting the thrus bearing. ok.. I'm just trying to help here.. I did fire mine up again, and there was no clicking. I don't mean to state the obvious.. but can you back off on the thrust bearing? I also didn't mean to say that I didn't believe you were having a problem.. I was just trying to share my experience. Let us know how it works out. |
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"bf" wrote in message oups.com... ok.. I'm just trying to help here.. I did fire mine up again, and there was no clicking. I don't mean to state the obvious.. but can you back off on the thrust bearing? I also didn't mean to say that I didn't believe you were having a problem.. I was just trying to share my experience. Let us know how it works out. Yes I can back off on the thrust bearing however the bearing becomes ineffective then. Basically the blade simply flexes and does not touch the bearing. The clicking is coming from the blade back not being flat. It clicks as it hits the bearing with each revolution. 2 other "Cheap" brand blades do not have this problem. |
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