Im making a solid oak single bed
3 x 3 oak leag 15" high capped with walnut tops to hide the end grain
61/2" side 3/4" thick the clip fitting to hold the sides on
do you think its ok to just biscuit the joints on the bottom and headboard
ends?


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Connor Aston wrote:

Im making a solid oak single bed
3 x 3 oak leag 15" high capped with walnut tops to hide the end grain
61/2" side 3/4" thick the clip fitting to hold the sides on
do you think its ok to just biscuit the joints on the bottom and headboard
ends?



I'd use something similar to these
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10

Strong and easy to take apart and move

Rich
--
"you can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

"Connor Aston" wrote in message
newsp.s1jedjdtqkab0d@vigor13...
Im making a solid oak single bed
3 x 3 oak leag 15" high capped with walnut tops to hide the end grain
61/2" side 3/4" thick the clip fitting to hold the sides on
do you think its ok to just biscuit the joints on the bottom and headboard
ends?

Do you mean side rails to bed posts or headboard to bedposts?

I'll assume you meant the latter. In building my last bed, I used a mortise
and large tenon. Beds get a surprising amount of unusual forces for many
directions.
The rails are attached using two of the the large Rockler rail catches on
each end. (See other post for link)

Heres a pictu
http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/bedfin1.jpg

Dave

I'd agree that biscuits wouldn't be sufficient for any structural joint
on a bed frame. I'm working on a mission style bed frame also, and I'm
using the connectors from the first reply post to connect my side rails
to the posts, and large m&t's to connect the headboard pieces to the
posts.
Look around at Rockler.com - there are a few different types of
hardware to connect side rails to the posts.
Good luck,
Andy

"Andy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'd agree that biscuits wouldn't be sufficient for any structural joint
on a bed frame. I'm working on a mission style bed frame also, and I'm
using the connectors from the first reply post to connect my side rails
to the posts, and large m&t's to connect the headboard pieces to the
posts.
Look around at Rockler.com - there are a few different types of
hardware to connect side rails to the posts.
Good luck,
Andy


I have never found the connectors shown, on the Rockler website, from the
original reply to be sufficient. My first few beds I used those connects
and received complaints of squeaky/wobbly beds. I switched to bed bolt
fasteners and have no more complaints. I am sure that they are available
other places but Less Vally has them.

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...842,41269&ap=1

If you or your customer are going to make love on the bed then only bed
bolts will suffice to keep it from falling apart beneath you.

DAMHIKT ;-

J.


Connor Aston wrote:

Im making a solid oak single bed
3 x 3 oak leag 15" high capped with walnut tops to hide the end grain
61/2" side 3/4" thick the clip fitting to hold the sides on
do you think its ok to just biscuit the joints on the bottom and
headboard ends?

Frank Drackman wrote:


"Andy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'd agree that biscuits wouldn't be sufficient for any structural joint
on a bed frame. I'm working on a mission style bed frame also, and I'm
using the connectors from the first reply post to connect my side rails
to the posts, and large m&t's to connect the headboard pieces to the
posts.
Look around at Rockler.com - there are a few different types of
hardware to connect side rails to the posts.
Good luck,
Andy


I have never found the connectors shown, on the Rockler website, from the
original reply to be sufficient. My first few beds I used those connects
and received complaints of squeaky/wobbly beds. I switched to bed bolt
fasteners and have no more complaints. I am sure that they are available
other places but Less Vally has them.


http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...842,41269&ap=1

I believe if you scroll down on that site you'll find bed bolts too. I just
wanted to give him options. I'm not pushing Rockler but I have one down the
street and it's usually the first thing that comes up on a Google search.
Its amazing what you find on google if you just ask?

--
"you can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

"evodawg" wrote in message
news:R5tmf.2080$hB6.1762@trnddc05...
Frank Drackman wrote:


"Andy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'd agree that biscuits wouldn't be sufficient for any structural joint
on a bed frame. I'm working on a mission style bed frame also, and I'm
using the connectors from the first reply post to connect my side rails
to the posts, and large m&t's to connect the headboard pieces to the
posts.
Look around at Rockler.com - there are a few different types of
hardware to connect side rails to the posts.
Good luck,
Andy


I have never found the connectors shown, on the Rockler website, from the
original reply to be sufficient. My first few beds I used those connects
and received complaints of squeaky/wobbly beds. I switched to bed bolt
fasteners and have no more complaints. I am sure that they are available
other places but Less Vally has them.


http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...842,41269&ap=1

I believe if you scroll down on that site you'll find bed bolts too. I
just
wanted to give him options. I'm not pushing Rockler but I have one down
the
street and it's usually the first thing that comes up on a Google search.
Its amazing what you find on google if you just ask?



I didn't mean to imply that you were endorsing them. I just wanted to let
people know that I have had bad experiences with them. The bed bolts hace
some design restrictions but I can deal with them. I can't deal with
squeaky beds.

I meant the headboard to posts sorry
So you all dont seem to think biscuits will be enough?
I have made the posts 31/2 x 31/2 x 18" oak with a nice 3/8" walnut cap to
hide the end grain.
So it looks like i'll just have to bite the bullet and have my first go at
a mortice and tennon joint for the rails.
I have the robland x31 with the mort attachment have tried a few sample
withthis in the past but i recon i'll just have to hand cut the tennins as
i have no jigs.Im sure it will be goog experience.

As for the connectors thanks but i have been remommended to use these
http://www.hafele.co.uk/Hafele35a1/T...cket%2C+145+mm

will post a few pics soon
connor



On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:07:28 -0000, Teamcasa wrote:


"Connor Aston" wrote in message
newsp.s1jedjdtqkab0d@vigor13...
Im making a solid oak single bed
3 x 3 oak leag 15" high capped with walnut tops to hide the end grain
61/2" side 3/4" thick the clip fitting to hold the sides on
do you think its ok to just biscuit the joints on the bottom and
headboard
ends?

Do you mean side rails to bed posts or headboard to bedposts?

I'll assume you meant the latter. In building my last bed, I used a
mortise
and large tenon. Beds get a surprising amount of unusual forces for many
directions.
The rails are attached using two of the the large Rockler rail catches on
each end. (See other post for link)

Heres a pictu
http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/bedfin1.jpg

Dave





--
http://www.connoraston.com

Frank Drackman wrote:


"evodawg" wrote in message
news:R5tmf.2080$hB6.1762@trnddc05...
Frank Drackman wrote:


"Andy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'd agree that biscuits wouldn't be sufficient for any structural joint
on a bed frame. I'm working on a mission style bed frame also, and I'm
using the connectors from the first reply post to connect my side rails
to the posts, and large m&t's to connect the headboard pieces to the
posts.
Look around at Rockler.com - there are a few different types of
hardware to connect side rails to the posts.
Good luck,
Andy


I have never found the connectors shown, on the Rockler website, from
the
original reply to be sufficient. My first few beds I used those
connects
and received complaints of squeaky/wobbly beds. I switched to bed bolt
fasteners and have no more complaints. I am sure that they are
available other places but Less Vally has them.



http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...842,41269&ap=1

I believe if you scroll down on that site you'll find bed bolts too. I
just
wanted to give him options. I'm not pushing Rockler but I have one down
the
street and it's usually the first thing that comes up on a Google search.
Its amazing what you find on google if you just ask?



I didn't mean to imply that you were endorsing them. I just wanted to let
people know that I have had bad experiences with them. The bed bolts hace
some design restrictions but I can deal with them. I can't deal with
squeaky beds.
No problem
--
"you can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"