I finally got around to trying the lathe I bought at an auction a few months
ago.
Its kinda fun, but very messy.
I tried putting a DC pickup in back, but it did little as all the chips went
forward. I tried putting it in front, but it was in the way. I put to the
side and it got all the fine stuff, but little of the coarse stuff; which I
guess is better than the other way around.

How does one use a DC with a lathe?

Position a floor sweep nearby. Tom

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Position a floor sweep nearby. Tom

You are saying it just can't be done; right?

I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it's hard to do effectively.
Maybe some "clean room" technology, with gridded floors, like working
over a huge downdraft table? Sweeping is good. Have you done a google
search over at rec.crafts.woodturning? Tom

http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk/tip15.htm

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"tom" wrote in message
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Position a floor sweep nearby. Tom

You are saying it just can't be done; right?

I don't care if you get the Lewinsky model, you can overload it quickly with
a lathe. The stuff will spill out all over ... well, anyway, you can
collect dust, but not shavings.

If you peel rather than poke, 90% of the shavings will drop by gravity and
can be collected easily in a container.
http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners/geo...to&PhotoID=228

When sanding, use a HVAC or dryer duct, magnets to hold in place, and you
can trap almost all of it.
http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners/geo...to&PhotoID=234
The collector is actually on the wrong side in this picture. Sanding the
outside, or spindles, should have the duct in front.

Swap your scraper for a gouge or chisel. Shavings just fall in a neat
pile on the floor.

I am a complete beginner at this; I was just trying it out. I got chips
with my gouge; not dust, but large chips. They are like what comes out of a
table saw rather than what comes out of a router; but not at all like what
comes out of a sander.
Was my technique bad (well that's a stupid question, of course it was; but
it that the principle reason) or was my gouge dull? Or both?

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:29:55 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Was my technique bad (well that's a stupid question, of course it was; but
it that the principle reason) or was my gouge dull? Or both?

If you're a complete beginner, then there's no bad technique, there's
only inexperience. But you'll get better more quickly if you put the
scraper down and learn how to use a sharp gouge or chisel to _cut_ the
wood, instead of scraping it. It's a slightly harder technique to learn,
but the results are worth it - particularly the surface produced
directly from the tool on a grotty turning timber like oak.

One way to immediately appreciate the difference is to do some turning
on a pole lathe (foot powered). Those big electric motors can hide all
sorts of dodgy technique, if you don't have to power it yourself!
Treadle lathe bodgers knew all about sharp tools and paring, because it
was their legwork that was paying for it if they went at it in the
"modern" style of bulletproof steels and throwing horsepower at it.

I know almost nothing about turning, so don't listen to me. But I think
Tage Frid had a big emphasis on this use of tools for paring, not
scraping.

On 14 Nov 2005 11:07:30 -0800, "tom" wrote:

http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk/tip15.htm

This is a really good site! I bookmarked it for further study. Some handy info I have not seen
elsewhere.

Regards,
Roy

In article ,
"Toller" wrote:

I finally got around to trying the lathe I bought at an auction a few months
ago.
Its kinda fun, but very messy.
I tried putting a DC pickup in back, but it did little as all the chips went
forward. I tried putting it in front, but it was in the way. I put to the
side and it got all the fine stuff, but little of the coarse stuff; which I
guess is better than the other way around.

How does one use a DC with a lathe?

I use http://www.pennstateind.com/store/dbgulp.html, but there is also
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/dlhoodc.html

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It is not much use while turning.
It is helpful when sanding especially if you can reverse the lathe.
Dave




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In article ,
"Toller" wrote:

I finally got around to trying the lathe I bought at an auction a few
months
ago.
Its kinda fun, but very messy.
I tried putting a DC pickup in back, but it did little as all the chips
went
forward. I tried putting it in front, but it was in the way. I put to
the
side and it got all the fine stuff, but little of the coarse stuff; which
I
guess is better than the other way around.

How does one use a DC with a lathe?

I use http://www.pennstateind.com/store/dbgulp.html, but there is also
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/dlhoodc.html

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Toller wrote:


I am a complete beginner at this; I was just trying it out. I got
chips
with my gouge; not dust, but large chips. They are like what comes
out of a table saw rather than what comes out of a router; but not at
all like what comes out of a sander.
Was my technique bad (well that's a stupid question, of course it was;
but
it that the principle reason) or was my gouge dull? Or both?

One word of caution - be very careful when using a skew chisel. Better
still forget it completely until you become more used to the gouges.


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I am with Tom. I have seen some elaborate chutes and other collection
schemes. A good Sized DC chute beneath the lathe will help you get most of
it off of the floor quickly. I have also seen large, plywood collectors
behind the lathe but they end up being large DC chutes in the end.

RonB

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:52:11 +0000, Geoff Beale
wrote:

One word of caution - be very careful when using a skew chisel. Better
still forget it completely until you become more used to the gouges.

Or get a big pile of free green timber, in something that's easy to turn
and just practice with the skew until you have the hang of it. You
_will_ get catches. It _is_ still worth the effort to learn it.

An oval or rounded edge skew of about 1/2" width is a nice tool to learn
on. Follow the advice about "rubbing the bevel" and then raising the
handle to make it cut. Also keep the toolrest adjusted close up, as this
improves the leverage to help you control it.

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"Dave W" wrote:

It is not much use while turning.
It is helpful when sanding especially if you can reverse the lathe.

Ever tried sanding from the underside of the wood?

No need to reverse the lathe

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Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 4:44pm (EST+5) (Toller) wimpily
says::
snip very messy. snip

Hell, that's why a wood lathe is so much fun. Nothing like
standing up to your knees in wood chips. If it wasn't messy it'd be
work.



JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:44:28 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I finally got around to trying the lathe I bought at an auction a few months
ago.
Its kinda fun, but very messy.
I tried putting a DC pickup in back, but it did little as all the chips went
forward. I tried putting it in front, but it was in the way. I put to the
side and it got all the fine stuff, but little of the coarse stuff; which I
guess is better than the other way around.

How does one use a DC with a lathe?

DC and lathe while turning is a bad combo.. shavings clog the hoses and it's
faster and easier to sweep up the big stuff... I have a large plastic box on the
shelf under the ways and a lot falls in there..

For sanding, I use a table saw port on the end of a 4" hose, sitting on or under
the ways, depending on the size of the stuff being sanded...
What seems to work best for me is to have the DC port below the work and try to
do as much sanding as possible on the top of the work, slightly toward me, so
that the dust is mostly thrown downward toward the port..
It takes some experimenting and trail & error... works best with power sanding,
in my experience..

IMHO, you'll never get the kind of dust collection on a lathe that you would
with a router or saw, but it does help keep most of the stuff out of the air..


mac

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