This past week I watched a WW show on the DIY channel, hosted by Bruce
Johnson. I could hardly believe what I was hearing when he referred to
a DeWalt sliding CMS as a RAS. Where do they get these guys?

Dave

I've heard that one from him before. There have been threads in the
past about just this guy. He seems to be an actor instead of a real
woodworker like norm, david, or roy. If you watch his show enough
you'll see silly things like him cutting a dado 1" wide by making two
passes, then putting 3/4" plywood in it for a shelf. It's obviously
way too sloppy. Then when you come back from a comercial, it fits
perfectly. My favorite one was when he built a rocking chair... from a
kit. all the parts came pre-turned and sanded. All he did was glue it
together.

brian

On 18 Oct 2005 10:29:15 -0700, "brianlanning"
wrote:

I've heard that one from him before. There have been threads in the
past about just this guy. He seems to be an actor instead of a real
woodworker like norm, david, or roy. If you watch his show enough
you'll see silly things like him cutting a dado 1" wide by making two
passes, then putting 3/4" plywood in it for a shelf. It's obviously
way too sloppy. Then when you come back from a comercial, it fits
perfectly. My favorite one was when he built a rocking chair... from a
kit. all the parts came pre-turned and sanded. All he did was glue it
together.

brian



hey, gluing is hard work.... you can't expect the guy to be able to do
everythinh, right?

: )

brianlanning wrote:
I've heard that one from him before. There have been threads in the
past about just this guy. He seems to be an actor instead of a real
woodworker like norm, david, or roy. ...

Ok, he's an actor. That doesn't explain why the producer
didn't hire a competent person to wrtie the scripts.

--

FF

Lol -I actually met him one time.
The wife and I were out to dinner and he sat right next to us.
I talked w/ him a bit later that evening when we were both leaving - nice
enough guy.

What worse is that other boze on tools and techniques (the one that hosted
last season - not the new guy)
He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.
I was like you have got to be kidding me - the ER is going to get a workout
after this show.

Im guessing he finally killed himself in some horrific shop accident so they
had to replace him.



"David" wrote in message
...
This past week I watched a WW show on the DIY channel, hosted by Bruce
Johnson. I could hardly believe what I was hearing when he referred to a
DeWalt sliding CMS as a RAS. Where do they get these guys?

Dave

On 18 Oct 2005 11:48:57 -0700, wrote:


brianlanning wrote:
I've heard that one from him before. There have been threads in the
past about just this guy. He seems to be an actor instead of a real
woodworker like norm, david, or roy. ...

Ok, he's an actor. That doesn't explain why the producer
didn't hire a competent person to wrtie the scripts.


or maybe he's a bad enough actor to flub his lines...

s writes:

hey, gluing is hard work.... you can't expect the guy to be able to do
everythinh, right?

I hear the tenons and holes were labeled...


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"Rob V" wrote in message
...
Lol -I actually met him one time.
The wife and I were out to dinner and he sat right next to us.
I talked w/ him a bit later that evening when we were both leaving - nice
enough guy.

What worse is that other boze on tools and techniques (the one that hosted
last season - not the new guy)
He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.
I was like you have got to be kidding me - the ER is going to get a
workout after this show.

Im guessing he finally killed himself in some horrific shop accident so
they had to replace him.


Or the idiot on the "Ultimate Workshop that showed how to cut a dado with a
dado blade on a TS and with the standard Guard in place. When he discovered
that the 1x4 that he was cross cutting the dado into would not go past the
guard he backed the wood back through the blades with the saw still running.

"Leon" wrote in message

Or the idiot on the "Ultimate Workshop that showed how to cut a dado with
a
dado blade on a TS and with the standard Guard in place. When he
discovered
that the 1x4 that he was cross cutting the dado into would not go past
the
guard he backed the wood back through the blades with the saw still
running.

Hell, I've seen Norm do worse. When he was building the four poster bed, he
free handed the four arced canopy sections through the table saw while
keeping the tail section of it raised about a foot off the table saw. I've
never seen a worse example of kickback in the making.

Is that the same guy that couldn't figure out what to call a stacked
dado set? I can't remember what he called it, something like a "wide
saw blade thing". I'll have to start tivoing (is that a word now?)
that show again just for entertainment value.

I should start my own woodworking show.

brian

"David" wrote in message
...
This past week I watched a WW show on the DIY channel, hosted by Bruce
Johnson. I could hardly believe what I was hearing when he referred to a
DeWalt sliding CMS as a RAS. Where do they get these guys?

Dave

I noticed that a few years back. In answer to your question, Can you trust
a DIY channel host who thinks a SCMS is a RAS , another question.

Can you trust some one that turns out work that looks crap?

On 18 Oct 2005 10:29:15 -0700, "brianlanning"
wrote:

My favorite one was when he built a rocking chair... from a
kit. all the parts came pre-turned and sanded. All he did was glue it
together

I don't see that as a bad subject for a TV show. For most of the
audience that's more chair building than they're otherwise going to
attempt. If it encourages even a handful to get a kit and actually make
something, that has to be a good thing.


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Rob V wrote:
...

What worse is that other boze on tools and techniques (the one that hosted
last season - not the new guy)
He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.
I was like you have got to be kidding me - the ER is going to get a workout
after this show.


Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Im guessing he finally killed himself in some horrific shop accident so they
had to replace him.


Nahrm lived.

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wrote:

Rob V wrote:

...

What worse is that other boze on tools and techniques (the one that hosted
last season - not the new guy)
He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.
I was like you have got to be kidding me - the ER is going to get a workout
after this show.



Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)


Im guessing he finally killed himself in some horrific shop accident so they
had to replace him.



Nahrm lived.

but, but, but Bruce is no Nahm. The gal on Freestyle Furniture is more
pleasant to ogle (oh, I meant "watch") and seems supremely competent
(even if it might be an act) and confident.

Dave

David wrote in news:18WdnXnLroqysMjeRVn-
:



This past week I watched a WW show on the DIY channel, hosted by Bruce
Johnson. I could hardly believe what I was hearing when he referred to
a DeWalt sliding CMS as a RAS. Where do they get these guys?

Dave

About Bruce Johnson
An expert in wood refinishing, antique restoration, and home improvement,
Bruce Johnson has published more than a dozen books on these topics,
including Fifty Simple Ways To Save Your House, The Wood Finisher, The
Weekend Refinisher, and The Official Identification and Price Guide to
the Arts and Crafts Movement. His antique refinishing advice column,
"Knock on Wood," runs in more than 20 antique/collectibles publications.

A rare combination of craftsman and journalist, Bruce began his career as
a high school English teacher, but left teaching to set up his "Knock on
Wood Antique Repair & Restoration" shop. He spent the next 10 years as a
full-time professional refinisher, but eventually returned to writing.
Yet, Bruce says, he won't ever be without a workbench and a couple of
refinishing projects down in the basement Bruce is also the founder and
director of the Arts and Crafts Conference and Antique Show held every
February in Asheville, North Carolina, at the Grove Park Inn. The
conference, which includes the largest Arts and Crafts antiques show,
attracts more than 1500 Arts and Crafts collectors each year to its many
seminars, tours, demonstrations and exhibits. Johnson is proud to have
played a role in reviving interest in designers like Gustav Stickley, who
founded the Arts and Crafts movement. These furnishings are treasured by
such collectors as Steven Spielberg and Bruce Willis, among many others.

Patrick Conroy quoted:

"Johnson is proud to have
played a role in reviving interest in designers like Gustav Stickley, who
founded the Arts and Crafts movement."

I have to disagree with the article statement that the Arts and Crafts
Movement was founded by Stickley. He believe he got his ideas from
Ruskin and Morris. Hubbard had a big impact with the Roycrofter's as well.

John Ruskin (1819 -1900)
William Morris (1834-1896)
Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)
Gustav Stickley (1858-1942)

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On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

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Hell, I've seen Norm do worse. When he was building the four poster bed, he
free handed the four arced canopy sections through the table saw while
keeping the tail section of it raised about a foot off the table saw. I've
never seen a worse example of kickback in the making.

I've been converting all my VHS tapes of NYW to DVD since
I got my new DVD recorder at Costco a couple months ago.

I'm just now up to Norm's Highboy epsiodes (took 2).

This guy made 2 highboys out of tiger-maple - one for
a prototype and one for 'taping'. I would guess that both
were done in the span on a week or so (actual woodworking).
AFAIK, he does it all himself (help with setups etc.)

Use common sense in the shop with power tools.

We all do stupid stuff at times - mainly because we are
too dumb, too tired or short on time. I would guess that
for Norm, it's the latter.

Hell, he still has all his digits!

----

Someday I hope to be good enough to be cynical of
Norm Abram (ain't likely.)

Lou

In article , LRod
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

Hi LRod,

We both know that this never happened (I only
have about 210 episodes, but all recently viewed).

The closest reality is making cove molding by sliding
square stock it over the TS blade little by little - I've done this
many times and it is very safe.

Lou

loutent wrote:
In article , LRod
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

I recall seeing it sometime between 1989 and 1993.

Is there somewhere we can look up a list of episodes?


Hi LRod,

We both know that this never happened (I only
have about 210 episodes, but all recently viewed).

The closest reality is making cove molding by sliding
square stock it over the TS blade little by little - I've done this
many times and it is very safe.


I remember that too, but don't remember when.

What did he make in the first episode?

--

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On 18 Oct 2005 18:26:42 -0700, scribbled:


loutent wrote:
In article , LRod
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

I recall seeing it sometime between 1989 and 1993.

Is there somewhere we can look up a list of episodes?

There's this guy, rod or something, who has an amazingly comprehensive
site on Norm. Here's the list.

http://www.woodbutcher.net/episode.htm

Maybe we should ask him.

Oh! he has already answered.

Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ct_Woodworking

About Bruce Johnson
An expert in wood refinishing, antique restor.....
snip.....
lectors as Steven Spielberg and Bruce Willis, among many others.

sounds like some pretty good bonafides. so why doesn't he know the
difference between a SCMS and a RAS, among numerous other things?

maybe some kind of dyslexia?

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:57:19 -0400, loutent wrote:

In article , LRod
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

Hi LRod,

We both know that this never happened (I only
have about 210 episodes, but all recently viewed).

The closest reality is making cove molding by sliding
square stock it over the TS blade little by little - I've done this
many times and it is very safe.

In the workbench episode (#2) he lowered some 1x stock onto the blade
against the fence to make a stopped cut. In addition, it was supported
at the front edge of the table and was in control at all times. I saw
nothing particularly horrifying about that, but I'm sure there are
some nervous nellies (or Nahm liars) who would.


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Here's an easy solution to the tears of indignation about the wrongs
shown on television.

Don't watch that crap. Then you won't get all upset and offended, you
won't have to vent to all the other hobby woodies, and you will have
time to work in your shop and do something constructive.

I mean really, who are the idiots here? The guy that is on TV that
apparently doesn't know any better or the guy that watches and knows
better, and continues to watch long enough episodes to have more than
one example to cry about?

Robert

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"David" wrote in message
...
This past week I watched a WW show on the DIY channel, hosted by Bruce
Johnson. I could hardly believe what I was hearing when he referred to a
DeWalt sliding CMS as a RAS. Where do they get these guys?

Dave

I noticed that a few years back. In answer to your question, Can you
trust a DIY channel host who thinks a SCMS is a RAS , another question.

Can you trust some one that turns out work that looks crap?

In all honesty what are the differences, tell me what a RAS wont do that a
CMS will. Other than portability...mjh

On 18 Oct 2005 21:32:15 -0700, wrote:

Here's an easy solution to the tears of indignation about the wrongs
shown on television.

Don't watch that crap. Then you won't get all upset and offended, you
won't have to vent to all the other hobby woodies, and you will have
time to work in your shop and do something constructive.

I mean really, who are the idiots here? The guy that is on TV that
apparently doesn't know any better or the guy that watches and knows
better, and continues to watch long enough episodes to have more than
one example to cry about?

Here's an easy solution to the tears of indignation about the posts on
usenet.

Don't read that crap. Then you won't get all upset and offended, you
won't have to vent to all the other hobby woodies, and you will have
time to work in your shop and do something constructive.

I mean really, who are the idiots here? The guy that is posting on
usenet about TV wrongs, or the guy that reads the posts and continues
to read them to have more weenie posts to cry about?

As I write this, it seems vaguely familiar. What does "doctor, heal
thyself" mean?

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On 10/18/2005 11:15 PM mumbled something about the
following:
About Bruce Johnson
An expert in wood refinishing, antique restor.....

snip.....

lectors as Steven Spielberg and Bruce Willis, among many others.


sounds like some pretty good bonafides. so why doesn't he know the
difference between a SCMS and a RAS, among numerous other things?

maybe some kind of dyslexia?

You've never made a mistake calling one piece of equipment something else?

Do you have kids? I have 5, and there are times I have to go through
the whole list before I get the right name. It's REAL easy to call
something the wrong thing. What should have caught it was the editing.

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:31:29 -0400, Odinn
wrote:

You've never made a mistake calling one piece of equipment something else?

Not on TV, with a script, and the ability to re-shoot.

Not many people both know the subject and make a good presenter. But
they ought to have someone on set who does know, and who would call Cut!
aftter a gaff like that.

A sliding CMS's capabilities are a subset of those of a RAS. You got
the question backwards, e.g., what a CMS won't do that a RAS will. How
about rip?

In article .com, wrote:

loutent wrote:
In article , LRod
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2005 14:16:48 -0700, wrote:


He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock
and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

I recall seeing it sometime between 1989 and 1993.

Is there somewhere we can look up a list of episodes?

Isn't there a list on LRod's web site? g

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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:31:29 -0400, Odinn
wrote:

You've never made a mistake calling one piece of equipment something else?

Not on TV, with a script, and the ability to re-shoot.

Not many people both know the subject and make a good presenter. But
they ought to have someone on set who does know, and who would call Cut!
aftter a gaff like that.

We don't know how well scripted these shows are, though. All of us
stumble over our tongues from time to time, and if the shooting is
rushed, that's what ends up being broadcast. Better if it doesn't
happen, and better if it's edited out if it does happen, but life's
like that.

On 19 Oct 2005 07:18:50 -0700, "Charlie Self"
wrote:

We don't know how well scripted these shows are, though.

Last contact I had with TV was some friends who let themselves be
suckered onto a reality TV show last weekend (Mechannibals - it's
Junkyard Wars with kitchen appliances). Even their "spontaneous
hysterical outbursts" were scripted and shot two or three times, then
the whole final scene and conclusion of the scene was reversed during
the edit.

TV is a vile thing - that's why I've never owned one.

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:31:29 -0400, Odinn
wrote:

On 10/18/2005 11:15 PM mumbled something about the
following:
About Bruce Johnson
An expert in wood refinishing, antique restor.....

snip.....

lectors as Steven Spielberg and Bruce Willis, among many others.


sounds like some pretty good bonafides. so why doesn't he know the
difference between a SCMS and a RAS, among numerous other things?

maybe some kind of dyslexia?

You've never made a mistake calling one piece of equipment something else?

Do you have kids? I have 5, and there are times I have to go through
the whole list before I get the right name. It's REAL easy to call
something the wrong thing. What should have caught it was the editing.

Of course there's a big difference if it's something he did once or if
he does it consistently.

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A sliding CMS's capabilities are a subset of those of a RAS. You got
the question backwards, e.g., what a CMS won't do that a RAS will. How
about rip?

Or make dadoes?

Lee


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Isn't there a list on LRod's web site? g

LRod has a website? g

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We don't know how well scripted these shows are, though. All of us
stumble over our tongues from time to time, and if the shooting is
rushed, that's what ends up being broadcast. Better if it doesn't
happen, and better if it's edited out if it does happen, but life's
like that.

Still, that isn't much of an excuse. This is supposed to be instructional
television, and "network" television to boot. I might expect them to let it
slide if this were some local cable access show with no budget and a
proscribed amount of studio time available, but "professional" TV should be
held to higher standards.

There's an expression in TV called "fix it in post." That refers to the
practice of correcting errors or problems enountered during shooting in what
is called "post-production," the time when the raw footage is edited and any
normal adjustments to lighting and audio levels can be tweaked. I would
guess that in any woodworking "how-to" show the camera is focused on the
project, not on the host's face, for at least 75% of the time. Therefore,
if the host misspoke, it is likely he did so while the audience could hear
him but not see him. In that case, it is relatively cheap and easy to have
him re-record his line off camera and edit in the new audio. Even if he was
on camera, there are editing tricks that can make it an easy fix.

And DIY is by no means the only network guilty of shoddy or cheapskate
production practices. I absolutely cringe when I hear some of the things I
have heard on, for example, the Science Channel. There's one show called
Paleo World in which the narrator pronounces the word "dinosaur" like
"dyna-saw," as if it were some sort of prehistoric power tool. It's one
thing to mispronounce a word ... but not the most important one! The have
another show which was obviously produced originally in French by French
Canadian TV. English is clearly the second language of the narrator who
mispronounces such basic words as "helium" (i.e. the first syllable sounds
like that place that's the opposite of heaven). I have first-hand knowledge
that it doesn't cost that much to re-do the audio portion of a TV
production. There's not much excuse for letting some of this stuff get on
the air.

Lee

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Doug Miller wrote:
In article .com, wrote:
....

He actually did a bowl on a tablesaw by taking a square peice of stock
and
turning by hand over the blade while raising the blade.

Many years ago Nahrm did that too, on NYWS. (After first removing the
tablesaw guard for photographic clarity.)


Actually what I remember was not quite like what OP described,
see below.

Please cite the episode you saw that in. It's not in any of the 221
I've seen.

I recall seeing it sometime between 1989 and 1993.

Is there somewhere we can look up a list of episodes?

Isn't there a list on LRod's web site? g


Indeed there is and I do not see anything that could be the episode
I remember, so evidently it was not Nahrm.

What I remember is that the worker, whoever he was, said he was
going to make a series of plunge cuts onto the tablesaw blade,
the blade was going to be only a fraction of in inch away from
his hand and therefor alignment of the jig was very important.

So was there a pre-Nahrm or early contemporary show I might
have seen and misremembered as Nahrm?

--

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:53:38 -0400, "Lee Gordon"
wrote:

Isn't there a list on LRod's web site? g

LRod has a website? g

I really need to start promoting that thing...

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Lee Gordon wrote:

A sliding CMS's capabilities are a subset of those of a RAS. You got
the question backwards, e.g., what a CMS won't do that a RAS will. How
about rip?

Or make dadoes?

Lee


a SCMS can do dados, albeit in multiple passes as you can't put a dado
blade on the arbor. All the SCMS's I've seen have a depth stop so that
you can do dados.

Dave

Lee Gordon wrote:

We don't know how well scripted these shows are, though. All of us
stumble over our tongues from time to time, and if the shooting is
rushed, that's what ends up being broadcast. Better if it doesn't
happen, and better if it's edited out if it does happen, but life's
like that.

Still, that isn't much of an excuse. This is supposed to be instructional
television, and "network" television to boot. I might expect them to let it
slide if this were some local cable access show with no budget and a
proscribed amount of studio time available, but "professional" TV should be
held to higher standards.

There's an expression in TV called "fix it in post." That refers to the
practice of correcting errors or problems enountered during shooting in what
is called "post-production," the time when the raw footage is edited and any
normal adjustments to lighting and audio levels can be tweaked. I would
guess that in any woodworking "how-to" show the camera is focused on the
project, not on the host's face, for at least 75% of the time. Therefore,
if the host misspoke, it is likely he did so while the audience could hear
him but not see him. In that case, it is relatively cheap and easy to have
him re-record his line off camera and edit in the new audio. Even if he was
on camera, there are editing tricks that can make it an easy fix.

And DIY is by no means the only network guilty of shoddy or cheapskate
production practices. I absolutely cringe when I hear some of the things I
have heard on, for example, the Science Channel. There's one show called
Paleo World in which the narrator pronounces the word "dinosaur" like
"dyna-saw," as if it were some sort of prehistoric power tool. It's one
thing to mispronounce a word ... but not the most important one! The have
another show which was obviously produced originally in French by French
Canadian TV. English is clearly the second language of the narrator who
mispronounces such basic words as "helium" (i.e. the first syllable sounds
like that place that's the opposite of heaven). I have first-hand knowledge
that it doesn't cost that much to re-do the audio portion of a TV
production. There's not much excuse for letting some of this stuff get on
the air.

Lee

or how about talking heads that pronounce the KKK as "KLU Klux Klan"
instead of "KU Klux Klan" More say it wrong than correctly.

Dave