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I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should
consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan |
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DamnYankee wrote:
I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. ... Yes |
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I'm in the market for a new TS also. If you google for left vs. right tilt
you'll find more info than you'll ever need to make the decision. My current is a right tilt. I see no real reason to switch to left as it apppears the miter slots aren't the same distance from the blade on a left tilt, therefore my jigs won't work on the different tilt. Good luck, --dave "Duane Bozarth" wrote in message ... DamnYankee wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. ... Yes |
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Dave Jackson wrote:
....top posting corrected... "Duane Bozarth" wrote in message ... DamnYankee wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. ... Yes I'm in the market for a new TS also. If you google for left vs. right tilt you'll find more info than you'll ever need to make the decision. My current is a right tilt. I see no real reason to switch to left as it apppears the miter slots aren't the same distance from the blade on a left tilt, therefore my jigs won't work on the different tilt. Good luck, --dave For new purchase, it's mostly a religious question, not technical. One gets adjusted to what one has--being a PM66 owner of nearly 30 years I am, of course, of the LHT persuasion... ![]() |
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![]() "DamnYankee" wrote in message oups.com... I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan ;~) The single most asked question in this group that I paste this rubber stamp answer to. Both saws will make all the same cuts. Some easier on the left tilt, some easier on the right tilt. Strictly personal preference. But if you need to be steered one way or the other, Advantages: Are you right handed? Get the left tilt. 1. Commonly the Left tilt has the bevel wheel on the right side and is easily turned with your Right hand. 2. Left tilt can rip a narrow bevel with out having to move the fence to the left side of the blade. 3. Left tilt allows the blade arbor nut to be removed with your right hand. 4. Left tilt allows your to remove the arbor nut and turn it in the direction that you would expect. 5. With a Left tilt, when both edges of a board are beveled, the sharp point of the bevel is up on the fence when cutting the second bevel as opposed to the bottom of the fence where it might slip under. 6. RIGHT tilt if you are left handed. The bevel wheel is commonly on the left side of the saw. 7. RIGHT tilt if you "must" use the fence distance indicator when using a stacked dado blade set. The blades stack left, away from the fence. The indicator remains accurate. On the left tilt, the blades stack towards the fence and makes the indicator inaccurate. In this case use a tape measure to set the fence distance. 8. RIGHT tilt allows you to remove the arbor nut with your left hand but the nut must be turned clockwise to loosen. Bassackwards to normalcy. If considering a cabinet saw, with wide 50" rip capacity. The Left tilt will most often afford you the most storage room under the right table extension. The RIGHT tilt has an access door in that location that will demand room to open. The left tilt allows you to have access to the motor and or the insides of the cabinet from the more open left side of the saw with out having to crawl under the right extension table. Very nice if you ever happen to drop the arbor nut inside the cabinet. If you are considering getting a replacement saw and considering going to the opposite tilt this time consider that the miter slots may not be the same distance from the blade when comparing a left to right tilt saw. This may or may not be of concern but something to consider. |
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This is like arguing which is best, Ford or Chevy
Either one will work fine, but personally I like my left tilt saw However, realize that typically with a left tilt saw, using a dado blade thows the fence calibration off, as you will be adding the extra cutters/blades/etc on the right side of the blade (ie, the same side the fence is typically on) and that will make the fence scale zero actaully read something like 3/4in However, since the blade tilts to the left, doing bevel cuts will be much safer as you cannot trap the cutoff between the blade and fence like you can with a right tilt machine John On 15 Oct 2005 07:20:27 -0700, "DamnYankee" wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan |
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You know I think way too much is made of this decision. Both machines can
make all the same cuts, both can do some things better than the other. It comes down to personal preference. I pruchased a left tilt General 220. I like it. I'm right handed, and I rarely use the fence guage for mesurment. For me when I make the rare bevel cut I like that I can keep the fence on the 'normal' side and make the cut. It also has the advantage that the cabinet access is actually accessible in my shop, though this wasn't a selling feature. I learned on a RHT machine, and now have a LHT. In normal day to day use I don't notice the difference. My suggestion is to get version that you are most comfortable with. "DamnYankee" wrote in message oups.com... I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan |
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Well, I have a right tilt mechanism on my Unisaw. I would get a left
tilt if I did it again. Why? The fence is on the right side and when you want to do a bevel or an edge chamfer you have to switch sides or take a chance on trapping your work piece. Not a big deal unless you have a large board (greater than 10" wide) then your left table isn't wide enough. Further more, if you have the unifence you have to remove the fence from the slider, switch to the other side then make sure that everything is square and calibrated to the saw blade. Having both a left and right tilt table, I can tell you the left tilt was a better choice. If you are left handed I guess you could put the extension table on the left side and it would work fine, exept for the fact that the angle tilt is under your extension table. I'm not sure what everyone else is using there tilt for, but bevels and chamfers are the majority of my cuts. Why did I buy the right tilt? Because Delta was switching to the X series and the last of the previous addition was on sale for 1399.00, it happened to be a right tilt. Hope this helps, don DamnYankee wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan |
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![]() "DamnYankee" wrote in message oups.com... I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan ==== Good answers all. Now for the $64 question: Does any manufacturer make a saw that can tilt either way? Leif |
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"DamnYankee" wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan Choices choices choices... I resolved the toilet paper issue. Roll it from the top towards you. The peanut butter issue is leaning towards crunchy. ....back to our regular programming: At one point, I had both a LT and a RT. When cutting strips with bevels on them, I either flipped the fence on the UniSaur or walked over to the SCM. Trapping stuff between the fence and the blade must be avoided at all costs. When you focus on what you're doing, either saw will be fine. IMHO, there are WAY more important things to look at when choosing a saw. Good luck! r |
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Choices choices choices...
I resolved the toilet paper issue. Roll it from the top towards you. Wrong, think of a cat. |
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![]() "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ==== Good answers all. Now for the $64 question: Does any manufacturer make a saw that can tilt either way? Leif No, but I once dated a girl that went both ways. |
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"Rick Samuel" wrote: Choices choices choices... I resolved the toilet paper issue. Roll it from the top towards you. Wrong, think of a cat. LOL..I get the visual. Okay, I sit corrected. G |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message news:design-
Choices choices choices... I resolved the toilet paper issue. Roll it from the top towards you. Wrong, think of a cat. Actually, that's worse. Rolling from the front, my cat pulls down about 20' and plays with that. Rolling from the back, she keeps it rolling like a speed bag while shredding off little bits all over the place. What good is a roll of toilet paper when the centre of the roll has its centre torn out about an inch deep? She's an eight month old adult sized kitten. The solution is to close doors. Figured I'd won when I had her nails trimmed. Now she's learned that what she can't climb, she can jump onto. I'd say about every month she's added 6" of jumping confidence to her repertoire. Only effective deterrent is the water gun or the spray bottle and she's usually long gone as soon as I reach to grab it. I'm doomed! |
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This answer is one of the reasons I asked the question. I never
thought about the jigs. Thanks Dave! Bryan |
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Great answer Leon. I appreciate the repost.
I know I could have done a search to find the answer but with all the "garbage" on the group lately, I thought it might be nice to get another woodworking related thread going. Thanks again. Bryan |
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I've never used a LHT so I'm definately most comfortable with the RHT.
I was considering the LHT because of the bevel cuts. I always avoide them on my current saw but it sure would be nice to be able to use the table saw for those cuts. I guess I'll just have to go to the Grizzly show room in Muncy PA (about an hour away) and compare them side by side. :-) Thanks! Bryan |
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DamnYankee wrote:
This answer is one of the reasons I asked the question. I never thought about the jigs. Thanks Dave! But if you don't yet have a TS, I'd assume you don't have a supply of jigs ready made? ![]() The only commercial one I'm aware of that really makes a difference is the old, heavy, commercial (not the $100 one, the nearly $300 one) Delta tenoning jig that won't clear a left tilt blade. |
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Thanks Don. It sounds like the only real drawbacks so far are using
dado blades and jigs for the RH may not work on the LH. I don't have that many jigs and measuring for the dado won't be that big of a problem. Actually, the dado blade gives me a different problem now on my current saw anyways. I have a contractor saw and the blade depth/height doesn't lock. When using a dado blade, the weight of the blade causes it to drop so I'm always "working" to keep the height consistent. I'll be upgrading to a cabinet saw so this won't be an issue. Bryan |
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Well, I am upgrading to a cabinet saw for various reasons and leaning
towards the Left tilt. Peanut butter oth is definately smooth for me and can sometimes affect the toilet paper issue.... Thanks! Bryan |
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Okay but if I do that for each brand, how much will it cost me?
Bryan |
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I did not rip a bevel on the RHT saw, but have on the LHT. Easy. Just like
a 90 cut. It seems to me if you moved the fence to the other side of the saw blade, you'd now need to push through with your left hand and put pressure into the fence with your right. Of course you could always use a featherboard... Then again, in the last year, I can count on one hand the number of beveled rip cuts I've made on my table saw. Have fun at the Grizzly show room! Stay Safe "DamnYankee" wrote in message oups.com... I've never used a LHT so I'm definately most comfortable with the RHT. I was considering the LHT because of the bevel cuts. I always avoide them on my current saw but it sure would be nice to be able to use the table saw for those cuts. I guess I'll just have to go to the Grizzly show room in Muncy PA (about an hour away) and compare them side by side. :-) Thanks! Bryan |
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If you mount it that way, the cats unroll it. I'm with you on the peanut
butter though. "Robatoy" wrote in message news:design- I resolved the toilet paper issue. Roll it from the top towards you. The peanut butter issue is leaning towards crunchy. |
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I think far too much is made of this phenomena. I recently switched
to RT on a vintage Unisaw after 30 years of LT on my faithfull Craftsman. Mox Nix, it means nothing, can you say... transparent after the first or second bevel cut? And then... how often are you beveling anyway? On 15 Oct 2005 07:20:27 -0700, "DamnYankee" wrote: I'm in the market for a new cabinet saw and was wondering if I should consider a left tilt or not. Seems like it would come in handy but I've never used one so I'm looking for input. Bryan |
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