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I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.

BUT... am I crazy to be putting this extra strain on the fence? This
is a Delta 10" with T-2 fence, which is very sturdy. The extension
wing is pressed not cast.

Your comments?

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I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.

BUT... am I crazy to be putting this extra strain on the fence? This
is a Delta 10" with T-2 fence, which is very sturdy. The extension
wing is pressed not cast.

Your comments?

Not sure exactly what you have in mind. But I saw a similar setup in a shop
once.

What was done there was a small tool tray type of shelf was constructed that
spanned the two round pipes the fence rode on. On each end, there was a
round type of clamp. I am not sure where they came from. But they were
plastic with rubber on the inside. A small lever opened and closed them.

I asked about it. They told me that they had a tool tray sitting there
before. But the saw's vibration would cause it to "walk". So they came up
with the clamp idea. That way they can remove the tray whenever they want.
And it stays put when clamped.




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I would send you a sketch if I could.

This is pretty simple. The right side of the right extension wing has
pre-drilled holes in it, as do the fence guides. I would attach the
plywood using those holes, with a shelf recessed between the fence
guides. My guides are not round. Hadn't thought about vibration, that
might be a problem.

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On 5 Jul 2005 07:46:18 -0700, "gregj" wrote:

I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.

BUT... am I crazy to be putting this extra strain on the fence? This
is a Delta 10" with T-2 fence, which is very sturdy. The extension
wing is pressed not cast.

Your comments?


I use a small rolling cart that I got at K-Mart. It sits, tucked under the
fence rails, but can be moved whenever I need it out of the way. I can hang my
miters in the handle areas and there are little areas set off with ribs that
work well for pencils. Other "saw junk", like tape measures, fetcher boards and
push sticks park nicely in the center of the plastic top.

On the bottom shelf, I keep jigs.

It even came with a drawer full of wonderful tools, like sockets and wrenches.

Not a direct answer to your question, but a solution.

I should probably mention that I keep as much of my shop on wheels as I can.

____________________
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New Eagle, PA


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"gregj" wrote in message
I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.


Why not hang it from overhead? Also, the guard on many aftermarket, overarm
guards have a storage tray, so something in that area, hanging from above
the saw, is rarely in the way.

Besides the tray for my uniguard, I use a "T" shaped rack hanging from the
ceiling over my table saw to hold inserts, wrenches, push blocks, etc.
Pictures on my website, Jigs and Fixture page.

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Thanks for the good suggestions.

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Honestly why not make it on wheels and have it slide under vs hang it so you
can move it out of the way if ever necessary. (DAMHIKT)

"gregj" wrote in message
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I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.

BUT... am I crazy to be putting this extra strain on the fence? This
is a Delta 10" with T-2 fence, which is very sturdy. The extension
wing is pressed not cast.

Your comments?



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Space is precious in my gara....er, shop. I ended up building a nice birch cabinet for my saw (1980
Penny's Toolcraft with a two gerbil-power motor and a nice retrofit fence) using Woodcrafts 4"
swivel casters. I modified the "Little Shop II" design from Popular Woodworking. The plans and
article are still on their site if you look hard enough.

I hung a router on the extension table, and have a base that is 2ft deep, 5 ft wide and 2ft high
with (eventually) drawers and doors for storage. The old stand did nothing but hold the TS up in
the air wasting a lot of space. The top of the cabinet is my tool rest/catch all. Holds fence,
various squares, feather boards, dust, and a couple dead spiders. Total cost was about $100 or so,
of which $55 was for the casters, but they were worth every penny, and I will use the same ones on
the next tool cabinet upgrade. I like all swivels as it lets me just push the whole contraption at
whatever angle I need.

I have that critter loaded down with all kinds of portable tools, blades, whatnot, and even more
dead spiders, and can still push it around with just my index finger. VERY nice casters.

Before I stumbled across the "Little Shop" article, I separated my saw from the stand, and stuck a
2ftx 4ft piece of ply between the saw and base, cut out a big hole for the dust to drop out , bolted
the legs back on and had some handy little shelves on the sides and front to hold things. Worked
pretty good actually, just doesn't provide nearly enough storage compared to my current rig.

Just some things that work for me.

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:17:17 GMT, "Rob V" wrote:

Honestly why not make it on wheels and have it slide under vs hang it so you
can move it out of the way if ever necessary. (DAMHIKT)

"gregj" wrote in message
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I am thinking of hanging a recessed tool tray on the right side of my
table saw. I would fasten it to the extension wing on one side and to
the two guides for the fence that extend beyond the extension wing.
The whole thing would be made of very light plywood to keep the weight
as low as possible, and it would hang down about 6 or 8 inches. It
would not interfere with the operation of the fence.

Seems like I am always looking for some small item like a pencil,
square, cut piece and this would make it easy to find them.

BUT... am I crazy to be putting this extra strain on the fence? This
is a Delta 10" with T-2 fence, which is very sturdy. The extension
wing is pressed not cast.

Your comments?



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I suspect this is what you really want to do...

http://www.designsbyrainbow.com/plans/tabaccab.jpg


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I guess it depends on semantics. To me, "Table Saw" as mentioned by the OP is the same as
contractors saw. "Cabinet Saw" is a form of tool porn, and thus essentially unobtainable in the
real world....but maybe someday....

Here's the url for the Little Shop I was referring to:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1053





On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:08:53 GMT, Pat Barber wrote:

I suspect this is what you really want to do...

http://www.designsbyrainbow.com/plans/tabaccab.jpg




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Roy I like it. A little concerned about weight, I have a Delta saw
that is about 260 pounds, could not find anything on the Grizzly that
was used in the article. Do you think it will hold up to that much?

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I think it would work fine. My TS probably weights around 150-175. I could pick it up and stumble
around with it anyway, back when it was on a stand. Earlier this year there was a couple similar
pics posted on alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking that one fellow showed his Jet with CI wings
mounted on one of these type cabinets.

Since I someday hope for a better saw, I researched Jet and Delta sizes before I built my cabinet.
Turns out the footprints are about the same, but my saw is about 3/4 inch shorter from bottom to
top. I added a second piece of birch ply to the top to bring my saw height to what I hope to
someday have. This lets me build outfeed tables, etc that will be of future use.

I positioned the vertical divider (in dados) a little to the left so that the saw is well supported
with the left side of the cabinet and the divider about an inch or so just to the right of the right
side of my saw. I used 3/4 birch ply for the cabinet with 1/2 inch birch ply for the back. To
avoid any chance of sag, I did use a 2x6 on the bottom of the cabinet along the front and back and
mounted the casters to that.

I may have spent as much as $125 on this cabinet now that I think about it. Two sheets of 3/4 inch
Baltic Birch for top, bottom,sides, divider with a half sheet left over. BB at the time was $28
here in Houston. Half sheet of half inch BB for the back. You could double the side and divider if
you were really concerned about weight. I didn't bother, but have that option if/when I upgrade and
am concerned about the weight. You could also add another divider for support under the saw. The
2x6's supporting the whole thing (glued and screwed to the bottom of the cabinet) will prevent it
from sagging.

A little Minwax Honey Oak stain, couple of coats of poly, and it looks great in the shop. If it
does sag on you, give it to a kid for a short entertainment center (keep the casters for yourself).

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Roy

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On 8 Jul 2005 18:17:08 -0700, "gregj" wrote:

Roy I like it. A little concerned about weight, I have a Delta saw
that is about 260 pounds, could not find anything on the Grizzly that
was used in the article. Do you think it will hold up to that much?


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