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My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet
Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. |
On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:41 -0700, nospambob wrote:
My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. What's it (not) doing? My email address is real if you want to do it there. Dave |
nospambob wrote:
My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. If you have a utility such as System Suite 2000 that will allow you to clean out and restore your registry, that would be my first step. It is a broad axe technique but it usually works for me. Delete the entire FireFox directory, then go back and clean up the registry and get rid of all the broken links, etc. After that, try downloading again. HTH Lew |
Try Mozilla's counterpart newsreader/mail program - Thunderbird. I'll never open Outlook Express again!
nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. |
nospambob wrote:
My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. Get a friend with a high speed connection to download it to CD/DVD, then install from the CD. Besides, if you have IE, just download another copy. |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:24:28 -0700, lgb wrote:
Luckily it didn't destroy Gravity :-). Understood, completely. |
On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:41 -0700, nospambob
wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. uninstall then download it again,,., I Do use Firefox as a browser...use Forte Agent as a newsreader... To be honest never had a problem with either,,,, Both Free versions Bob Griffiths |
Bob G. wrote:
I Do use Firefox as a browser...use Forte Agent as a newsreader... To be honest never had a problem with either,,,, Me, too. Great combination. Both Free versions Except that I paid for agnet to git the spel cehcker, beacuse without ti, and with my speling and tpying skiills, my possts wouuld lokk like this. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. what are the symptoms? does it load, the window open, and then just 'not work'? |
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lgb wrote: In article , says... Try Mozilla's counterpart newsreader/mail program - Thunderbird. I'll never open Outlook Express again! I just updated from W95 to W98SE. Yes, I know I'm slow :-). W98 has completely wiped out my address books and inbox/sent/trash folders. Even restoring them from a CD backup doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Luckily it didn't destroy Gravity :-). that's a nasty upgrade. do yourself a favor and go buy another hard drive and install the new OS on that. then mine your data off of the old one. |
nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. If you cannot successfully uninstall and reinstall Firefox to the default location try a fresh install to an alternate location. Windows is so insanely stupid that when you reinstall software it will not overwrite files that are already there (except maybe for your user data files) so that if you are doing a reinstall to correct corrupt files it doesn't work. Windows was written to make it very difficult to fix corrupted programs, whether on purpose or through gross incompetence is anybody's guess. -- FF |
BTDT twice and both times get same error MSD, something about not
finding START.MOZILLA.ORG. I bought Agent for the support that has been outstanding. Liked free Agent and decided to avoid problems. Mozilla has a forum but you need a viable Mozilla browser to use it. Appreciate the help from all! On Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:16 -0400, Bob G. wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:41 -0700, nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. uninstall then download it again,,., I Do use Firefox as a browser...use Forte Agent as a newsreader... To be honest never had a problem with either,,,, Both Free versions Bob Griffiths |
nospambob wrote:
BTDT twice and both times get same error MSD, something about not finding START.MOZILLA.ORG. I seem to remember a checkbox on install for "use firefox start for home page" I always uncheck that. Sounds like what it was looking for. Mozilla has a forum but you need a viable Mozilla browser to use it. I had no problem opening http://forums.mozillazine.org/ in IE. I've only used the forums from firefox, though. Where are you getting stuck. I can't believe they would make it not work in ie, since they want to be able to attract current IE users. And to support Thunderbird for non-firfox users. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
Try starting firefox from the command prompt with firefox
-profilemanager and create a new profile (it's usually a corrupt profile that messes firefox up). You can then reimport your bookmarks from the old profile which is in documents and settings/usrname/application data/mozilla/firefox/profiles/oldrandomprofilenamr/bookmarks.htm that should do the trick. |
Chances are that your files are still there somewhere. You'd get better results posting this question to one of the
Microsoft support groups. For about the cost of the Win98 O/S dick, you can get a used or reburbished Dell with WinXP installed. The 20th century is long over...get with the program! lgb wrote: In article , says... Try Mozilla's counterpart newsreader/mail program - Thunderbird. I'll never open Outlook Express again! I just updated from W95 to W98SE. Yes, I know I'm slow :-). W98 has completely wiped out my address books and inbox/sent/trash folders. Even restoring them from a CD backup doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Luckily it didn't destroy Gravity :-). |
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Wednesday 18 May 2005 12:24 am: In article , says... Try Mozilla's counterpart newsreader/mail program - Thunderbird. I'll never open Outlook Express again! I just updated from W95 to W98SE. Yes, I know I'm slow :-). W98 has completely wiped out my address books and inbox/sent/trash folders. Even restoring them from a CD backup doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Luckily it didn't destroy Gravity :-). I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Bill |
"Bill C." wrote:
I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Dave in Fairfax -- Dave Leader reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.Patinatools.org/ |
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nospambob wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:36:23 -0000, (Robert Bonomi) wrote: In article , nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. what are the symptoms? does it load, the window open, and then just 'not work'? AYUP to both. If the 'just not work' includes "don't even get the I-beam cursor, when clicking on the URL entry panel" then -- BINGO! I ran into the *exactly* the same problem. Took some digging to get to the bottom of it, but the culprit was "something" clobbered in the 'extensions' I'd selected. *AND* 'uninstalling' Firefox does *NOT* remove the extensions, thus a re-install _automatically_ picked the problem child up again. Here's the fix: First, "uninstall" firefox, if you haven't already. Next, do the following: Start-Search-files and folders Search for the name Mozilla You should get several matches. One of them will be a folder under "Application Data" (the exact path depends on the OS version, and what 'username' you're using, if applicable) Now, open Windows explorer (Start[right-click]-explore), and go to that folder. In it there will be a folder named 'firefox', click on that. In that folder, will be a folder named "profiles", click on _that_. In _that_ folder will be a folder with a 'garbage' 8-character name, probably the only thing in the folder. click on *that*. In *that* will be a folder named "Extensions", click on THAT (hang in there, we're almost done! :) In THAT folder, click on 'Edit-Select All" from the menu bar. then click on "file-delete" from the menu bar. confirm that you want to send things to the recycle bin, if asked. Close Windows Explorer. "empty recycle bin". Run the Firefox installer program again. It should be on your hard-disk "somewhere". do a "start-search-files or folders" for Firefox*setup*exe and you should find it. If not, and you cant get to the regular Firefox download site, there's a copy of the 1.0.4 installer at http://www.r-bonomi.com/firefox.exe (If you're fool enough to trust an executable from a random web-site. :) |
On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote:
"Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. |
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Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. Firefox 1.0.3 did indeed have a couple of issues but they have since been patched in 1.0.4 IE with all available patches applied is still full of holes though, you can check here http://secunia.com/product/9/ for a full list of IE issues and by comparison for Firefox http://secunia.com/product/4227/. Firefox "Currently, 4 out of 17 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database." with the highest threat level being Less Critical 2/5 IE "Currently, 9 out of 47 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database." with the highest threat level being Highly Critical 4/5 |
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lgb wrote:
In article , says... In article , nospambob wrote: My copy got corrupted and two downloads later I'm using Internet Explorer and hating it. Can't get to Firefox Forums as reader is broke. Is help out there and if so where? Have considered another related program but Firefox works or did for me. what are the symptoms? does it load, the window open, and then just 'not work'? No, it works fine. But my previous mail, both sent and received, and my address book, are empty. It had also lost my ISP info. In other words, it looked like I'd just installed it. I reloaded the entire directories from a CD backup, but that seemed to confuse it. Guess I'll have to uninstall and reinstall. Are you talking about Firefox (per your note) or Thunderbird? Firefox knows nothing about your mail or address book, unless there is an extension I am not aware of. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
Dave Hinz wrote:
Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. Symantec came up with the warning, but my wife at DoD says the newest Firefox, v 1.0.4 has a fix in it, so that one *should* be safe. Dave in Fairfax -- Dave Leader reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.Patinatools.org/ |
Mozilla just released version 1.0.4 within the past week to address some security issues. This will probably be the
trend as it gets more popular and more bad guys become interested in taking advantage of it. It's still way better than any MS product in terms of both security and performance, IMHO. Having said that, I've never heard anything about any Java problems with Firefox. Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. |
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 21:15:08 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. Symantec came up with the warning, but my wife at DoD says the newest Firefox, v 1.0.4 has a fix in it, so that one *should* be safe. Ah, OK, that's week old news then. Gotcha. |
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Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. Exploit discovered about 10 days ago. broad-based problem -- not just with Mozilla stuff. complicated timing-issue exploit by a malicious web-site. _Already_fixed_ in FireFox 1.0.4, and Mozilla 1.7.8. out within _days_ of the vulnerability announcement. |
Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. That information is not correct. Comparatively, if Firefox "has a major security problem" then IE "has NO security." Brian Livingston just had a recent article on Firefox vs. IE in the latest online issue of his news column. Good information. Check here to get the column and subscribe (free) or pay some money and get a lot more stuff: WindowsSecrets.com/info |
lgb wrote:
In article , says... I guess I didn't make it clear that I was talking about the standalone Thunderbird, not Firefox. And while I haven't tried it yet, I ran across the below in another newsgroup. Sure sounds like my problem. ------------ 5. I checked again, and restarted Thunderbird. Then I had a closer look at the directory structure, and under Profiles\ a directory with varying name (like 60fth4de.default\) contains the 'real' data. I copied Mail\ and ImapMail\ from my old directory there, as well as the collections of files found there in the old directory, and voila! everything was working again! Even my addresses reappeared! ------------------- I installed Firefox (1.0) and Thunderbird sometime back and it sucked everything out of Netscape (4.7) right into Firefox and Thunderbird-- bookmarks, history, all of my e-mail folders. Didn't loose anything. |
"bridger" wrote in message ... In article , lgb wrote: In article , says... Try Mozilla's counterpart newsreader/mail program - Thunderbird. I'll never open Outlook Express again! I just updated from W95 to W98SE. Yes, I know I'm slow :-). W98 has completely wiped out my address books and inbox/sent/trash folders. Even restoring them from a CD backup doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? You're not slow, as you say, you're creating unnecessary problems for yourself. What possible compelling reason is there to be using Win anything but XP these days? There are so many advantages to using a current operating system over the fossil OS's you're electing to use. Why not upgrade to something realistic? As MS now admits, Win98 SE and ME were ly conceived ideas back then...and they garner no greater merit today. -Mark |
"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message ... "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. What ae the specifics of the security probelm you speak of with Firefox? -Mark |
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. That is what I am wondering...is Dave the only guy to figure out what got by all the Firefox developers? :^) -Mark |
Mark Rance wrote:
That is what I am wondering...is Dave the only guy to figure out what got by all the Firefox developers? :^) You're reading and replying to old segments of the thread, or at least out of sync with what's happened in the thread. The upshot was that the security holes were fixed in Firefox v1.0.4. Dave in Fairfax -- Dave Leader reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.Patinatools.org/ |
On Thu, 19 May 2005 21:59:31 -0000, Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article , Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. Exploit discovered about 10 days ago. broad-based problem -- not just with Mozilla stuff. complicated timing-issue exploit by a malicious web-site. _Already_fixed_ in FireFox 1.0.4, and Mozilla 1.7.8. out within _days_ of the vulnerability announcement. That's the one I figured it was, so "nothing current" was it. It's wonderful (and not surprising) how fast the vulnerabilities in open-source software are fixed. Nothing like a team of motivated geeks to get the job done right, and right now. |
On Fri, 20 May 2005 00:22:16 -0600, Mark Rance wrote:
"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message ... "Bill C." wrote: I don't use MSFT OS's anymore so DAMHIKT, but 'regclean.exe' is your friend. Delete the Firefox directory and then apply regclean (Google for it ... it's on a MSFT site somewhere.) You should be done. Reinstall Firefox. I just went from Fedora Core 2.0 Linux to Mandrake 10 Community Linux and lost nothing. Nothing. Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. What ae the specifics of the security probelm you speak of with Firefox? The vulnerability in question was resolved more than a week ago, with version 1.04. |
On Fri, 20 May 2005 00:23:07 -0600, Mark Rance wrote:
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:14 GMT, Dave in Fairfax wrote: Normally I'd agree with you about reloading Firefox, but it and Mozilla have a major security problem at the moment. You'll have to turn off Java, Javascript and about everrything that makes it useful versus IE to stop the problem. Hopefully a fix will be in the next version, the new one doesn't have a fix. Got a link? My sources don't seem to mention anything current. One of us has newer information than the other...not sure who. That is what I am wondering...is Dave the only guy to figure out what got by all the Firefox developers? :^) You mean Dave Dave, not Me Dave, right? Dave |
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