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A funny student story about glue
Folks -
Okay, a short one.... Got a gal in one of the Friday classes, has had WS before and has the basics... Anyway, she is building a segmented round mirror frame. I told her we would assemble it with hide glue.... She wanted to know what THAT was, and I told her that it was the only glue available for WW until modern adheisives came along.... She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" and that it was WRONG to do that. I countered, by asking her if she had ever eaten a burger.... she said that "that didn't count" and that hide glue was "mean".... So, I back-tracked and told her, half in jest, that we were actually using the "vegitarian" formula, and that the original ingredients included lettuce and carrots. She took it hook, line and sinker.... So now it's "carrot glue" Sheesh.... John |
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"John Moorhead" wrote: She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" Is it rabbits? I've always thought it was of livestock origins - like cows and in the past, horses - as in sending the old gray mare to the glue factory... -- Owen Lowe The Fly-by-Night Copper Company __________ "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate States of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation, under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for oil." - Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05 |
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"John Moorhead" wrote: She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits Sorry for the second reply but thought of something else... In the last year or two my wife and I have been trying to gently ease our now 6 year old into knowing the true origins of the animal products we eat and wear. Her favorite stuffed animal is a cow. This cow has been with us since the day she was born and to this day is much loved and protected by all in the family - but especially our daughter. We love animals and stop along the roadside to pet horses and talk to the cows, we frequent petting zoos, have a couple dogs, read about animals, wake her up to hear the owl in the summer and generally instill in her how important it is to be respectful, kind and not harm animals, etc. We thought it might be a problem explaining where hamburgers, roasts and other beefy goodness comes from... nope - she doesn't seem to care one bit as she pours more ketchup on her burger. She's even gotten to asking us what part of the animal we're eating at any given meal - like what animal gives us bacon and what part of the pig is it? She didn't seem fazed at all that some people of the world eat dogs and rabbits or that some won't even consider eating cows. On the flip side she still firmly believes in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy... -- Owen Lowe The Fly-by-Night Copper Company __________ "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate States of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation, under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for oil." - Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05 |
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:41:59 -0700, Fly-by-Night CC
wrote: Is it rabbits? It may be, but not usually for woodworking. Woodworking hide glue is hides from cows, maybe horses. Hooves and bone take too much cooking, so they go for fertiliser instead. Rabbit skin glue is more flexible than other hide glues. It's mainly used for bookbinding, and similar trades. -- Cats have nine lives, which is why they rarely post to Usenet. |
"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message ... In article , "John Moorhead" wrote: She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" Is it rabbits? I've always thought it was of livestock origins - like cows and in the past, horses - as in sending the old gray mare to the glue factory... Collagen. Source variable. More cow parts available most places since the advent of the horseless carriage. |
We thought it might be a problem explaining where hamburgers, roasts and other beefy goodness comes from... nope - she doesn't seem to care one bit as she pours more ketchup on her burger. She's even gotten to asking us what part of the animal we're eating at any given meal - like what animal gives us bacon and what part of the pig is it? She didn't seem fazed at all that some people of the world eat dogs and rabbits or that some won't even consider eating cows. On the flip side she still firmly believes in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy... Sounds like a well-adjusted young lady. My wife has become a vegetarian over the past couple of years, and now she tries grossing me out about eating meat. Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) Nothing wrong with being kind to animals, and using them when their time is up. That's what we raise them for. Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
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"Doc" wrote in message ... Fly-by-Night CC wrote in news:onlnlowe- : On the flip side she still firmly believes in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy... Um, what about Santa Claus? Are you trying to imply something here? No Joke and I am not kidding about this, I have made and shipped toys to "Santa's Workshop, at Northpole, AK, I even receive checks and cashed them for the toys. |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0400, "George" george@least wrote:
"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message ... In article , "John Moorhead" wrote: She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" Is it rabbits? I've always thought it was of livestock origins - like cows and in the past, horses - as in sending the old gray mare to the glue factory... Collagen. Source variable. More cow parts available most places since the advent of the horseless carriage. Yeah, all the people that used to ride cows are driving cars now. Lee |
"Prometheus" wrote in message ... We thought it might be a problem explaining where hamburgers, roasts and other beefy goodness comes from... nope - she doesn't seem to care one bit as she pours more ketchup on her burger. She's even gotten to asking us what part of the animal we're eating at any given meal - like what animal gives us bacon and what part of the pig is it? She didn't seem fazed at all that some people of the world eat dogs and rabbits or that some won't even consider eating cows. On the flip side she still firmly believes in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy... Sounds like a well-adjusted young lady. My wife has become a vegetarian over the past couple of years, and now she tries grossing me out about eating meat. Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) Who was the comedian who said, "If God did not want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat". |
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lgb wrote: In article , says... Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) It always grosses out my wife when I fry trout with the head attached so I can eat the eyeballs - I think they're good :-). She's also not overly fond of my habit of eaing the marrow in those little rings of bone :-). -- Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. The purpose of frying/grilling the trout with the head on is to eat the tiny cheeks where there's a pocket of meat....not the eyes. Signed, raised on a trout farm where supper was so fresh it jumped out of the skillet. |
So...Does Crazy Glue come from Mad Cows :O)
Keith P |
wrote in message You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. S O P in some countries. We have some people at work from Pacific rim countries. They tend to eat a lot of parts that we would dispose of. Some of their food smells outstanding, others force me to fresh air. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
wrote in message You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. S O P in some countries. We have some people at work from Pacific rim countries. They tend to eat a lot of parts that we would dispose of. Some of their food smells outstanding, others force me to fresh air. It's my understanding that sheep's eyes are a delicacy in the Middle East. I'm sure that there is a lesson there somewhere, but dang if I know what. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
On 2005-04-30, Prometheus wrote:
Sounds like a well-adjusted young lady. My wife has become a vegetarian over the past couple of years, and now she tries grossing me out about eating meat. Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) Nothing wrong with being kind to animals, and using them when their time is up. That's what we raise them for. Aut inveniam viam aut faciam Seen on bash.org... green We vegetarians love the environment. carnivores are sick freaks. Frank How can vegetarians possibly love the environment.. you keep eating all the f*cking plants :-) |
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Lee DeRaud wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0400, "George" george@least wrote: "Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message ... In article , "John Moorhead" wrote: She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" Is it rabbits? I've always thought it was of livestock origins - like cows and in the past, horses - as in sending the old gray mare to the glue factory... Collagen. Source variable. More cow parts available most places since the advent of the horseless carriage. Yeah, all the people that used to ride cows are driving cars now. And that's "no bull"! |
Edwin Pawlowski wrote: wrote in message You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. S O P in some countries. We have some people at work from Pacific rim countries. They tend to eat a lot of parts that we would dispose of. Some of their food smells outstanding, others force me to fresh air. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ Hi Ed, I do know that and understand. I personally just can't imagine it. To kind of twist what you're talking about...people here don't always know what they're eating.... Factory farm raised meat, bologna, pepperoni, chicken nuggets, etc....I'm very fortunate to have enough connections to buy all farm raised meat that's organic and raised on pasture. I get fish (since my parents sold out years ago) from my brother that comes out of Northern MN, and vegetables from the Amish since our pet pig gets our garden once it's ready every year. |
Kiwanda wrote in news:Xns9648618DDB20kiwandanospamne@
64.85.239.19: Must be a common thing in some families, but I do know others who've had kids freak out about meat around age 7-10 when they first make the connections between chickens and McNuggets. Uhh, I'm not all that certain there IS a connection between chickens and McNuggets... ;-) Patriarch |
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:31:07 -0400, the inscrutable "Lee Michaels"
spake: "Prometheus" wrote in message .. . Sounds like a well-adjusted young lady. My wife has become a vegetarian over the past couple of years, and now she tries grossing me out about eating meat. Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) Who was the comedian who said, "If God did not want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat". One of the funniest skits I've seen and heard was George Wallace (Yeah, the black comedian, not the Georgia racict.) on feeding the homeless. He wanted to give out loaves of bread to the homeless in the parks and have them catch pigeons and make sandwiches, killing two birds (so to speak) with one stone. I couldn't Google a link for it or I would have posted it. His version was a LOT funnier. --== May The Angst Be With You! ==-- -Yoda, on a bad day -- http://diversify.com Ending Your Web Page Angst. |
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You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. The purpose of frying/grilling the trout with the head on is to eat the tiny cheeks where there's a pocket of meat....not the eyes. Signed, raised on a trout farm where supper was so fresh it jumped out of the skillet. Finally! Someone else who realizes that the fish cheeks are the sweetest part. Small, but worth the effort. Nothing wrong with eyes, they're good on rice. As for the rest, it sounds like what we used to call 4-H fever. The kids would raise the animal, show it at the fair, and be scarred for years when it showed up on a plate. Dave in Fairfax -- Dave Leader reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.Patinatools.org/ |
Kiwanda wrote in news:Xns9648618DDB20kiwandanospamne@
64.85.239.19: We're in a similar position with our 4 yr old, but since we eat a lot of wild game/fish the connections are even more fun. In recent weeks we've had salmon, deer, elk, bison, duck, walleye, caribou and probably a few others on the table, along with a bit of pork and chicken. She knows where eat one comes from, and desite the zoo full of stuffed animals upstairs she seems OK about eating meat. She's also pretty interested in knowing which animals eat one another, i.e. who are the carnivores in her menagarie. Our 9 year-old granddaughter jokes with all of us, and the 5 year-old doesn't blink an eye, whentalk about the yummy Bambi she just had, and the great Wilbur last night, and the Thumper with lunch. Of course, the food at Mohonk (www.mohonk.com) *is* great, especially when eaten in that great diningroom (sorry no picture of the wood, but pictures of the outside are about to be posted in abpw under Mohonk.) -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
In article , "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote in message You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. S O P in some countries. We have some people at work from Pacific rim countries. They tend to eat a lot of parts that we would dispose of. Some of their food smells outstanding, others force me to fresh air. Back in college, I used to work with another college kid, a girl who came from Vietnam with her parents in about '73. She would always bring her lunch from home instead of going out to Pizza Hut or whatever with the rest of us. One day... (me) sniff, sniff Hey, Tran, that smells pretty good, what is it? (she) something-or-other Vietnamese name, want to try some? (me) Sure. munch, munch Hmm.. pretty good. What is that? (she) Oh, that is the stomach of the pig! If she had told me what it was first - in English - I never would have eaten it. But it was good. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:38 -0500, the inscrutable Patriarch
spake: Kiwanda wrote in news:Xns9648618DDB20kiwandanospamne@ 64.85.239.19: Must be a common thing in some families, but I do know others who've had kids freak out about meat around age 7-10 when they first make the connections between chickens and McNuggets. Uhh, I'm not all that certain there IS a connection between chickens and McNuggets... ;-) I've always referred to them as Chicken McDogNuts. YMMV ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Let's sing praise to Aphrodite || www.diversify.com She may seem a little flighty, || Full Service Websites but she wears a green gauze nighty, || PHP Applications And she's good enough for me." || SQL Database Development |
On Sun, 01 May 2005 01:23:03 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote: In article , "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: wrote in message You eat the eyballs out of trout?! Now, that's just disgusting. S O P in some countries. We have some people at work from Pacific rim countries. They tend to eat a lot of parts that we would dispose of. Some of their food smells outstanding, others force me to fresh air. Back in college, I used to work with another college kid, a girl who came from Vietnam with her parents in about '73. She would always bring her lunch from home instead of going out to Pizza Hut or whatever with the rest of us. One day... (me) sniff, sniff Hey, Tran, that smells pretty good, what is it? (she) something-or-other Vietnamese name, want to try some? (me) Sure. munch, munch Hmm.. pretty good. What is that? (she) Oh, that is the stomach of the pig! If she had told me what it was first - in English - I never would have eaten it. But it was good. I know what you mean. I used to frequent a little Vietnamese restaurant in Seattle many years back. I have no idea what I ate there, but it was cheap and good, which was all I cared about. -- "We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill" Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:38 -0500, Patriarch
wrote: Kiwanda wrote in news:Xns9648618DDB20kiwandanospamne@ 64.85.239.19: Must be a common thing in some families, but I do know others who've had kids freak out about meat around age 7-10 when they first make the connections between chickens and McNuggets. Uhh, I'm not all that certain there IS a connection between chickens and McNuggets... ;-) "Can you think of any part of a chicken that you could possibly call a 'nugget' that you would want to put in your mouth?" - Guy Kolling - 1979 -- "We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill" Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
"Tim Douglass" wrote in message "Can you think of any part of a chicken that you could possibly call a 'nugget' that you would want to put in your mouth?" - Guy Kolling - 1979 Guess you've never had turkey fries then. |
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Dave in Fairfax wrote: Finally! Someone else who realizes that the fish cheeks are the sweetest part. Small, but worth the effort. Up an'out here, Pacific NW, we have Salmon cheeks that are quite tasty - especially smoked. I'd think trout cheeks would be pretty damn small. -- Owen Lowe The Fly-by-Night Copper Company __________ "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate States of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation, under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for oil." - Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05 |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:54:34 -0400, "David D" crumbl @ gmail.com
wrote: "Prometheus" wrote in message .. . she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Not eating McD's ... that's just good taste. :) Having my food stare back at me ... not an issue. Well, I keep it to a minimum, but when you're running late and they've got a 60-second drive-through guarantee, it's sometimes hard to pass up. :) Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:32:24 -0700, lgb wrote:
In article , says... Doesn't work though- she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Well, that may or may not be true- but just to show it doesn't work, I make a point of always saying "Mmmmm... eyeballs" right before biting into any burger these days. :) It always grosses out my wife when I fry trout with the head attached so I can eat the eyeballs - I think they're good :-). She's also not overly fond of my habit of eaing the marrow in those little rings of bone :-). Good stuff, there. For my wife, the absolute horror when it comes to things I'd *kill* to eat is sushi- especially the raw flying fish roe, and spider rolls made with an entire crab. She just doesn't know good food when it's looking right at her... The look on her face when I take a bite of the end of a spider roll is just priceless (for those of you who don't get into sushi, the ends of that particular roll have the crab legs, complete with tiny pinchers, sticking out of them. Not the most appealing thing to stare at, but ohhhhhh are they good.) Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:35:56 GMT, Ba r r y
wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:51:47 -0500, Prometheus wrote: Sounds like a well-adjusted young lady. My wife has become a vegetarian over the past couple of years, and now she tries grossing me out about eating meat. All you'd have to do is read "Fast Food Nation", and she'd win. G Nope. I've got a hard and fast rule. If it tastes good and hasn't made me sick, I don't really care how it was made. I'm sure some worthless punk has spit in one dish or another I've eaten at some time, but since I can't tell, I'm not going to worry about it much. FWIW, I haven't read "Fast Food Nation", but I have read "The Jungle", and if anything could put a guy off his feed- that'd be it. I still eat plenty of meat, but only where I know the source. Fast food scares me for all kinds of reasons, one of which is the local handling of the food. I worked in those places in high school, and Horatio Sans in "Road Trip" had nothing on some of my coworkers! There are only two fast food places that I'll eat. One is the McDonald's I worked at for a short time in high school, where the manager (who is still there) ran the cleanest restaurant I ever saw, and ruled the kids with an iron grip- and the other is the local Hardee's, which is staffed entirely by cute young girls. Nothing quite like having a pretty little thing hand you a 3/4lb burger... makes up for any uncertainty about the cleanliness of the preparation. The French toast scene in "Road Trip" is worth enduring the movie. Barry Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
Prometheus wrote in
: Nope. I've got a hard and fast rule. If it tastes good and hasn't made me sick, I don't really care how it was made. I used to have the same opinion. However, the British experience with big- business farming - the re-use of nervous tissue from diseased animals in the feed of healthy animals - has resulted in mad cow disease in people. The idea of some idiot contaminating feed similarly here is scary, especially since the incubation time of variant Jacob-Creutzfeld disease is years, not hours as in "regular" food poisoning. Elk-wasting disease in more and more deer is equally scary. Nevertheless, Bambi tasted very well recently at Mohonk ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article , Lee DeRaud wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0400, "George" george@least wrote: "Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message ... In article , "John Moorhead" wrote: She wanted to know why it was called hide glue, and I told her... She wrinkled her nose and had a small hissy about "those poor rabbits" Is it rabbits? I've always thought it was of livestock origins - like cows and in the past, horses - as in sending the old gray mare to the glue factory... Collagen. Source variable. More cow parts available most places since the advent of the horseless carriage. Yeah, all the people that used to ride cows are driving cars now. And that's "no bull"! I don't know, he may be giving us a bum steer. Glen |
"Han" wrote in message ... Prometheus wrote in : Nope. I've got a hard and fast rule. If it tastes good and hasn't made me sick, I don't really care how it was made. I used to have the same opinion. However, the British experience with big- business farming - the re-use of nervous tissue from diseased animals in the feed of healthy animals - has resulted in mad cow disease in people. The idea of some idiot contaminating feed similarly here is scary, especially since the incubation time of variant Jacob-Creutzfeld disease is years, not hours as in "regular" food poisoning. Elk-wasting disease in more and more deer is equally scary. Nevertheless, Bambi tasted very well recently at Mohonk ... BSE, CWD, Kuru, etc. , all seem to involve the same protein mis-fold noted in Alzheimer's, according to one published piece of research. |
On Sun, 01 May 2005 05:27:39 -0500, the inscrutable Prometheus
spake: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:54:34 -0400, "David D" crumbl @ gmail.com wrote: "Prometheus" wrote in message . .. she tried telling me that I should never eat McDonald's because the hamburger is allowed to have a certain percentage of cow eyeballs in it. Not eating McD's ... that's just good taste. :) Having my food stare back at me ... not an issue. Well, I keep it to a minimum, but when you're running late and they've got a 60-second drive-through guarantee, it's sometimes hard to pass up. :) Whoa, doubletake there. I could have sworn I read "60-second drive-through quarantine" on the first read-through and was impressed that they went that far. I should have known. The only fast-food restaurant I occasionally partake of is Carl's Jr., and then it's only their fried zucchini, _made_fresh_while_I_wait_! ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Let's sing praise to Aphrodite || www.diversify.com She may seem a little flighty, || Full Service Websites but she wears a green gauze nighty, || PHP Applications And she's good enough for me." || SQL Database Development |
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