Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want. Will it? I'm not expecting anything real fancy
from a cheap program. Any hints on where to start for drawing a cabinet or a
table ect.? Thanks a bunch for any help.

--
Paul O.

"Paul O." wrote in message news:IpZ5e.23351
Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want.

Sound's like a keeper of a wife to me. All you have to do know is to
redirect her buying habits to woodworking tools or machinery.

I haven't used the program, but a friend of mine likes it and has designed
some nice looking woodworking projects with it.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:19:04 GMT, "Paul O." wrote:

Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want. Will it? I'm not expecting anything real fancy
from a cheap program. Any hints on where to start for drawing a cabinet or a
table ect.? Thanks a bunch for any help.

Can't speak to the decks program, but if it is IMSI FloorPlan 3D, that
program will not help you draw furniture. It is a very helpful program for
laying out rooms or if you are re-designing the kitchen and trying to
visualize how various cabinet configurations will look, but it won't help
you draw furniture.

Turbocad 10.5 has 3D options and allows one to draw furniture stick by
stick. It is somewhat time-consuming, but also allows you to view the
resultant drawing in 3D.




+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

"Paul O." wrote in message
om...
Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want. Will it? I'm not expecting anything real fancy
from a cheap program. Any hints on where to start for drawing a cabinet or
a table ect.? Thanks a bunch for any help.

The primary money for the cheapo CAD companies is to sell dumbed down
versions for small projects around the house. And these are NOT real CAD
programs. But they all do sell stand alone programs. And you can buy
tutorials with them as well as symbol libraries.

I used to use Turbo CAD and had to do a project where I had to get a number
of people up and running on it. It was a nightmare. Not intuitive at all.

Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They too
have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD program is very
robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which made it easier to learm
both for my self and the others I was working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make drawings for
gym equipment.

Paul O. wrote:
Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want. Will it? I'm not expecting anything real fancy
from a cheap program. Any hints on where to start for drawing a cabinet or a
table ect.? Thanks a bunch for any help.

1) Docs for the program are likely on the CD itself as either a tutorial
or help files. Most programs these days are that way. Gone are the
days of printed manuals save for the occasional "Quick Start" guide.

2) Danger, Will Robinson! Danger! "Whoever she talked to at Sams Club
said this would do what I want." Last I looked Sam's Club was NOT a
computer software distributor. Not to say that this won't do what you
want, I really don't know since I haven't used the program but I wonder
how many "drafting" programs they carry? Oh? Just one? When all you
have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. g

3) Give it a try. If it doesn't work, take it back (along with the wife
so she can point out the software expert) and watch as the manager bitch
slaps him/her silly.

There are 3 versions of Turbocad, Designer, Deluxe and Pro. I am a long time
Pro user. Designer is the most basic of the three but will do what you want,
and do it well. They have always been (a bit!) short on documentation but
there is lots of help available. Go he http://forums.imsisoft.com/forums
This is the most active CAD forum on the net and it is dedicated to
Turbocad. Also he http://www.textualcreations.ca/
The site of Don Cheke. He has written many tutorials for various versions of
Turbocad. Many have gotten their start with these. There is quite a learning
curve (true with all CAD programs) but once mastered, anything is posible.

"Paul O." wrote in message
om...
Was mentioning to the wife the other day that I wish I had a program for
drawing furniture that I want to make. Today she brings me home this Turbo
Cad. I open the box and there are two cd's, one for floor plans and the
other for decks. No instructions. Whoever she talked to at Sams Club said
this would do what I want. Will it? I'm not expecting anything real fancy
from a cheap program. Any hints on where to start for drawing a cabinet or
a
table ect.? Thanks a bunch for any help.

--
Paul O.

Lee Michaels wrote:
Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They too
have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD program is very
robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which made it easier to learm
both for my self and the others I was working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make drawings for
gym equipment.


Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it
doesn't seem to be mentioned.

thanks,
Jeff

Jeff Cooper wrote:
Lee Michaels wrote:

Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They
too have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD
program is very robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which made
it easier to learm both for my self and the others I was working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make drawings
for gym equipment.


Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it
doesn't seem to be mentioned.

thanks,
Jeff


Jeff:

I am looking for the same capabilities. 3D modeling would be very nice
for furniture.

Their web site _implies_ 3D modeling -- but it never describes the
tools. It looks like marketing hyperbole to me. I suspect that the
apparent 3D models are actually imported sketches or photos. It would be
nice to know though...

Since it includes something called "Paintpro" I can assume that they
would also let you assume that a drawing was a plan...



--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

"Jeff Cooper" wrote

Lee Michaels wrote:
Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They too
have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD program is
very robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which made it easier to
learm both for my self and the others I was working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make drawings
for gym equipment.


Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it doesn't
seem to be mentioned.

I don't think so. I haven't got that far. But probably not.

I just needed something I could hand to a metal fabricator to build
something. It works quite well.

I know that 3 D is good for certain things. But anyboedywho is familiar with
drawings can usually picture the item in 3-D from the 2-d drawings. At least
I can.

And it was more intuitive to learn for me and others. Which is why I went
with it.

WillR wrote:
Jeff Cooper wrote:

Lee Michaels wrote:

Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They
too have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD
program is very robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which made
it easier to learm both for my self and the others I was working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make
drawings for gym equipment.


Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it
doesn't seem to be mentioned.

thanks,
Jeff


Jeff:

I am looking for the same capabilities. 3D modeling would be very nice
for furniture.

Their web site _implies_ 3D modeling -- but it never describes the
tools. It looks like marketing hyperbole to me. I suspect that the
apparent 3D models are actually imported sketches or photos. It would be
nice to know though...

Since it includes something called "Paintpro" I can assume that they
would also let you assume that a drawing was a plan...




I've used TurboCAD Pro in the past to design kitchen cabinets. It's a
bit of a learning curve to draw in 3D, but it's so nice to be able to
verify that everything fits together before you cut anything. I won't
do any major projects without designing them up first. The only mistake
I've made so far, construction-wise that is :-), is when I deviated from
plan.

I've been looking for an alternative for TurboCAD because their upgrade
policy bites. It seems like major versions are comming out at the rate
of at least once a year and at $200 a pop for an upgrade that gets a
little expensive for me. There's also no real incentive to upgrade. I
stopped at version 6.5 and they're at 11.0 now. It'll cost me the same
amount to upgrade from 6.5 to 11.0 as it would from 10.0 to 11.0.

Also, since I run Gentto Linux as my native OS at home, getting a
Windows program to run is a bit of a PITA.

Jeff

In article ,
says...
Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it doesn't
seem to be mentioned.

I don't think so. I haven't got that far. But probably not.

I use TurboCad version 7.1. It has 3D capabilities, but I haven't used
them. From a cursory look, those capabilities seem to be mostly
extrusions of 2D constructions. Cubes from rectangles, cylinders from
circles, that sort of thing.

Don't take that as gospel, others with more experience using the stuff
may well prove me wrong.

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

Jeff Cooper wrote:
WillR wrote:

Jeff Cooper wrote:

Lee Michaels wrote:

Since then I have migrated to CAD Pro. It was easier to learn. They
too have a bunch of cheapie "moron" programs. But the real CAD
program is very robust and I bought it with the tutorials. Which
made it easier to learm both for my self and the others I was
working with.

http://www.cadprosoftware.com/

And you can make furniture drewings with it. I use it to make
drawings for gym equipment.


Can you do 3D drawing in it? I checked their website out, but it
doesn't seem to be mentioned.

thanks,
Jeff


Jeff:

I am looking for the same capabilities. 3D modeling would be very nice
for furniture.

Their web site _implies_ 3D modeling -- but it never describes the
tools. It looks like marketing hyperbole to me. I suspect that the
apparent 3D models are actually imported sketches or photos. It would
be nice to know though...

Since it includes something called "Paintpro" I can assume that they
would also let you assume that a drawing was a plan...




I've used TurboCAD Pro in the past to design kitchen cabinets. It's a
bit of a learning curve to draw in 3D, but it's so nice to be able to
verify that everything fits together before you cut anything. I won't
do any major projects without designing them up first. The only mistake
I've made so far, construction-wise that is :-), is when I deviated from
plan.

I've been looking for an alternative for TurboCAD because their upgrade
policy bites. It seems like major versions are comming out at the rate
of at least once a year and at $200 a pop for an upgrade that gets a
little expensive for me. There's also no real incentive to upgrade. I
stopped at version 6.5 and they're at 11.0 now. It'll cost me the same
amount to upgrade from 6.5 to 11.0 as it would from 10.0 to 11.0.

Also, since I run Gentto Linux as my native OS at home, getting a
Windows program to run is a bit of a PITA.

Jeff

Jeff:

Appreciate the response.

I have windows and Linux -- so no problem.

I will look at the latest version when I find their web site

If there is an alternative ...


--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

"Jeff Cooper" wrote in message
...
I've used TurboCAD Pro in the past to design kitchen cabinets. It's a
bit of a learning curve to draw in 3D, but it's so nice to be able to
verify that everything fits together before you cut anything. I won't
do any major projects without designing them up first. The only mistake
I've made so far, construction-wise that is :-), is when I deviated from
plan.

Planning is worth the time. I use version 11.

I've been looking for an alternative for TurboCAD because their upgrade
policy bites.

Try Autocad sometime. You'll realize how good Imsi is treating you.

It seems like major versions are comming out at the rate
of at least once a year

That they are.


and at $200 a pop for an upgrade that gets a
little expensive for me. There's also no real incentive to upgrade. I
stopped at version 6.5 and they're at 11.0 now. It'll cost me the same
amount to upgrade from 6.5 to 11.0 as it would from 10.0 to 11.0.

With version 6.5, it will cost you $300.00 to upgrade. Going from V10 to
V11 cost me $99.00.
Compare to Autodesk. If you had a version of their software that far back,
you would not get an upgrade price. Full retail.

Also, since I run Gentto Linux as my native OS at home, getting a
Windows program to run is a bit of a PITA.

Jeff

Version 7.1 was (is) a good one. Try getting into the 3D a bit more. There
is not much you can't model with it.

"lgb" wrote in message
...
I use TurboCad version 7.1. It has 3D capabilities, but I haven't used
them. From a cursory look, those capabilities seem to be mostly
extrusions of 2D constructions. Cubes from rectangles, cylinders from
circles, that sort of thing.

Don't take that as gospel, others with more experience using the stuff
may well prove me wrong.

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:20 -0700, "CW" wrote:


"Jeff Cooper" wrote in message
...
I've used TurboCAD Pro in the past to design kitchen cabinets. It's a
bit of a learning curve to draw in 3D, but it's so nice to be able to
verify that everything fits together before you cut anything. I won't
do any major projects without designing them up first. The only mistake
I've made so far, construction-wise that is :-), is when I deviated from
plan.

Planning is worth the time. I use version 11.

How much different is it than version 10? I've got 10 and am debating
upgrading -- I just barely upgraded to 10 from version 8 and found it had
some improved features in the 3D realm, especially as far as 3D dimensions
and some other features.








+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

CW wrote:

With version 6.5, it will cost you $300.00 to upgrade. Going from V10 to
V11 cost me $99.00.
Compare to Autodesk. If you had a version of their software that far back,
you would not get an upgrade price. Full retail.


I'll admit I hadn't checked their upgrade pricing lately. I was
thinking of the last upgrade offer I got from IMSI that was to get v10
for $200.

I'll whine about the price :-), but I'll still probably upgrade late
this year as soon as I finish the kitchen and want to start a new project.

Jeff

This would be a rather long post if I were to go into all the new features
here. Yes, it is worth the upgrade. The parametrics in 2D are handy. In 3D,
the ability to slice one object with another is something I have wanted for
some time. It's in there. You can set up toolbars in the local menu to be
context sensitive. You choose what toolbars will be displayed during what
command. An extruded shape can be resized or reshaped simply by modifying
the base profile. There are more. You should go to their forum. Lots of
helpful people there.

"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:20 -0700, "CW" wrote:


"Jeff Cooper" wrote in message
...
I've used TurboCAD Pro in the past to design kitchen cabinets. It's a
bit of a learning curve to draw in 3D, but it's so nice to be able to
verify that everything fits together before you cut anything. I won't
do any major projects without designing them up first. The only
mistake
I've made so far, construction-wise that is :-), is when I deviated
from
plan.

Planning is worth the time. I use version 11.

How much different is it than version 10? I've got 10 and am debating
upgrading -- I just barely upgraded to 10 from version 8 and found it had
some improved features in the 3D realm, especially as far as 3D dimensions
and some other features.









+---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody

+---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----+

You won't be disapointed.

"Jeff Cooper" wrote in message
...
I'll whine about the price :-), but I'll still probably upgrade late
this year as soon as I finish the kitchen and want to start a new project.

Jeff