Here's my first 3D effort with Sketchup ... just for practice, a rendering
(after the fact) of the owl nesting box I built last weekend for a neighbor.

There are some good sources with a wood working bent, like Gary Katz's site:

http://www.garymkatz.com/charts_drawings.html

Along with FWW and podcasts on iTunes.

I think I'm going to enjoy this program ... and you can't beat the price.
Also attached is the skp file for those who have the program loaded up.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
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Here's my first 3D effort with Sketchup ... just for practice, a rendering
(after the fact) of the owl nesting box I built last weekend for a
neighbor.

It is not uncommon to see some very small owls here in NW Houston
(Beltway 8/ 290) and I suppose they can squeeze into some small openings.
But I would have thought a 1 5/8 inch opening would be more in tune for a
purple martin or somesuch.
So, the question is what kind of owl is this box intended for?

BTW, I bought the pro version back before Google bought out @Last
Software and upgraded to Version 6 over a year ago. As luck would have it,
the Bolder, Colorado architect who did a timberframe design for us was part
of the @Last Software team and that his was the voice that narrated the
Version 5 tutorials which I believe are still available for
download/viewing.
I use Turbocad far less now and then mostly for dimensioning purposes.

Dave in [NW] Houston

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:58:08 -0500, "Dave in Houston"
wrote:


"Swingman" wrote in message
m...

Here's my first 3D effort with Sketchup ... just for practice, a rendering
(after the fact) of the owl nesting box I built last weekend for a
neighbor.

It is not uncommon to see some very small owls here in NW Houston
(Beltway 8/ 290) and I suppose they can squeeze into some small openings.
But I would have thought a 1 5/8 inch opening would be more in tune for a
purple martin or somesuch.
So, the question is what kind of owl is this box intended for?

BTW, I bought the pro version back before Google bought out @Last
Software and upgraded to Version 6 over a year ago. As luck would have it,
the Bolder, Colorado architect who did a timberframe design for us was part
of the @Last Software team and that his was the voice that narrated the
Version 5 tutorials which I believe are still available for
download/viewing.
I use Turbocad far less now and then mostly for dimensioning purposes.

Dave in [NW] Houston


Dave, if you look closely, it appears that the radius is 1-5/8" which
would make the diameter of the hole 3-1/4".

Bill

"Dave in Houston" wrote

"Swingman"wrote in message


Here's my first 3D effort with Sketchup ... just for practice, a
rendering
(after the fact) of the owl nesting box I built last weekend for a
neighbor.

It is not uncommon to see some very small owls here in NW Houston
(Beltway 8/ 290) and I suppose they can squeeze into some small openings.
But I would have thought a 1 5/8 inch opening would be more in tune for a
purple martin or somesuch.
So, the question is what kind of owl is this box intended for?

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's radius, not
diameter.

The nesting box is for screech/saw-whet owls. There is an identical box (the
one I used as a go-by) down the street with three little heads, and six big,
unblinking eyes, peeping out as we speak, which is apparently what sparked
the sudden interest in the nesting boxes hereabouts, with folks paying in
excess of $50 for white pine boxes ... go figure.

AAMOF, the one I made for me out of the extra wood is already up on a tree
about ten blocks away.

Have you noticed any advantage to having the Pro version? Other than Layout,
and some export/import functions, is there any added CAD functionality, and
would you consider it a worthwhile expense for woodworking projects?

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"Swingman" wrote in message
...

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's radius,
not diameter.

Ahhhhhhh! I havn't felt this embarrassed since the tick inspector had
me strip naked while standing in the front door and hold my arms out for an
inspection. I felt so stoopid when somebody told me it was a trick to see
me naked.

The nesting box is for screech/saw-whet owls. There is an identical box
(the
one I used as a go-by) down the street with three little heads, and six
big,
unblinking eyes, peeping out as we speak, which is apparently what sparked
the sudden interest in the nesting boxes hereabouts, with folks paying in
excess of $50 for white pine boxes ... go figure.

Screech/saw-whet owls would have been my guess if I'd realized the hole
was 3 1/4 inch diameter. I actually picked one up off the neighbor's
driveway a few years ago and set him on one of our bedroom brick window
sills, afraid a cat would get it. It was gone next morning so who knows? I
have a couple of images I clicked a couple of years ago of one sitting on
ahigh shelf in my garage.

AAMOF, the one I made for me out of the extra wood is already up on a tree
about ten blocks away.

Have you noticed any advantage to having the Pro version? Other than
Layout,
and some export/import functions, is there any added CAD functionality,
and
would you consider it a worthwhile expense for woodworking projects?

The problem is that I don't remember what it was like using the free
version! I may be mis-remembering (that's a "Bushism") but I believe back
then (2005?) it was an eight hour trial version. I paid for and downloaded
the $495 pro version very soon after that and have updated most recently (a
year ago?) another $95 for the upgrade to Ver. 6.

Dave in Houston

"Dave in Houston" wrote

Ahhhhhhh! I havn't felt this embarrassed since the tick inspector had
me strip naked while standing in the front door and hold my arms out for
an
inspection. I felt so stoopid when somebody told me it was a trick to see
me naked.

LOL ... picking ticks off each other's nether parts _is_ the coonass
definition of "true love'!




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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
news

"Dave in Houston" wrote

Ahhhhhhh! I havn't felt this embarrassed since the tick inspector
had
me strip naked while standing in the front door and hold my arms out for
an
inspection. I felt so stoopid when somebody told me it was a trick to
see
me naked.

LOL ... picking ticks off each other's nether parts _is_ the coonass
definition of "true love'!



They should never have let folks in that part of the country watch those
National Geographic episodes where the primates groom each other by picking
the lice from the partner's coat - then eating it.

))))) Dave in Houston

Swingman wrote:
"Dave in Houston" wrote

Ahhhhhhh! I havn't felt this embarrassed since the tick inspector had
me strip naked while standing in the front door and hold my arms out for
an
inspection. I felt so stoopid when somebody told me it was a trick to see
me naked.

LOL ... picking ticks off each other's nether parts _is_ the coonass
definition of "true love'!




The Californicator definition of true love is whatever goes on among
five or less consenting adults.
truth is stranger than beauty,
jo4hn

"Swingman" wrote:

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's
radius, not
diameter.

Back to Drafting 101 for youG.

Standard drafting practice, at least where I come from, is to
dimension all holes by diameter since that is how cutting tools are
specified.

About the only time a radius is specified is for a fillet or similar
surface.

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:HXW4k.37807$lE3.9937@trnddc05...
"Swingman" wrote:

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's radius,
not
diameter.

Back to Drafting 101 for youG.

Standard drafting practice, at least where I come from, is to dimension
all holes by diameter since that is how cutting tools are specified.

About the only time a radius is specified is for a fillet or similar
surface.


Correct on both counts.

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:HXW4k.37807$lE3.9937@trnddc05...
"Swingman" wrote:

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's radius,
not
diameter.

Back to Drafting 101 for youG.

Standard drafting practice, at least where I come from, is to dimension
all holes by diameter since that is how cutting tools are specified.

About the only time a radius is specified is for a fillet or similar
surface.


Correct on both counts.


Oups I take that back I was taught to always specify the radius, full circle
or arc.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote
"Swingman" wrote:

Probably hard to tell from the jpg, but look closely ... that's radius,
not
diameter.

Back to Drafting 101 for youG.

Standard drafting practice, at least where I come from, is to dimension
all holes by diameter since that is how cutting tools are specified.

About the only time a radius is specified is for a fillet or similar
surface.

Check out the word "woodworking" in the name of the forum.

I, and most woodworkers, will use an adjustable "circle cutter" when faced
with cutting large diameter holes to non-standard sizes in wood.

In ALL cases, adjustable "circle cutters" are set up using the _radius_
measurement of the intended hole.

When _I_ draw woodworking plans, I spec them for a dumbass ... out of
necessity.

YMMV ...

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote:

When _I_ draw woodworking plans, I spec them for a dumbass ... out
of necessity.

Which is why HOLES are dimensioned by diameter, independent of
material and layout tools.

"No Brainer" is a standard requirement when trying to communicate by
drawing.

At least it was, maybe things have changed.

Making a mistake in material can be very expensive.


Lew

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
...

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

Here's my first 3D effort with Sketchup ... just for practice, a
rendering (after the fact) of the owl nesting box I built last weekend
for a neighbor.

It is not uncommon to see some very small owls here in NW Houston
(Beltway 8/ 290) and I suppose they can squeeze into some small openings.
But I would have thought a 1 5/8 inch opening would be more in tune for a
purple martin or somesuch.
So, the question is what kind of owl is this box intended for?

We discussed that last weekend, IIRC Swingman indicated that the box was
"Spot on", so we assumed the "Spotted Owl". ;~)

"Leon" wrote in message
...

We discussed that last weekend, IIRC Swingman indicated that the box was
"Spot on", so we assumed the "Spotted Owl". ;~)

Don't like them any better than [bald-golden-mexican] eagles. If
anything, they taste worse!
..

Dave in Houston