I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small gouges,and some
hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to sand
away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any advise
or suggestions!!

--
Harry

We all experience tearout in end grain. There will be two spots inside
and outside the bowl. Very light scrapes and sanding are the only way I
know of getting them out.

Tim

harryc wrote:
I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small gouges,and some
hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to sand
away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any advise
or suggestions!!

For boxes (and goblets), I really like the Oneway Termite tool for
getting clean cuts on end grain.

rr

TDUP wrote:
We all experience tearout in end grain. There will be two spots inside
and outside the bowl. Very light scrapes and sanding are the only way I
know of getting them out.

Tim

harryc wrote:

I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I
have tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small
gouges,and some hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that
takes forever to sand away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have
little success. Any advise or suggestions!!

harryc wrote:
I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small gouges,and some
hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to sand
away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any advise
or suggestions!!

This is a problem for everybody. It's also a time where it helps
to have someone work with you rather than try to explain it over
the net. There is sure to be a turning club near you. Check my
sig for the AAW link and go to local chapeters, look yours up by
state and find them. Join them and the AAW. You'll find a bunch
of people who'll be happy to help you work through the hard spots
and share coffee. If you have a neighbor who's a turner have them
take a look at what you're doing.

Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/

Ditto on the Termite. Smaller turnings work real well with it. Larger
items seem to turn easier with a SHARP gouge than using the Termite and the
gouge is faster. I have tried the Termite to clean up larger turnings and
it works well, but it is slow. I find that it is quicker to sand the larger
pieces.

Dried end grain is where the Termite shines.

"Randy Rhine" wrote in message
...
For boxes (and goblets), I really like the Oneway Termite tool for getting
clean cuts on end grain.

rr

TDUP wrote:
We all experience tearout in end grain. There will be two spots inside
and outside the bowl. Very light scrapes and sanding are the only way I
know of getting them out.

Tim

harryc wrote:

I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I
have tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small
gouges,and some hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes
forever to sand away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little
success. Any advise or suggestions!!

Dave,
Turning end grain has it's own problems, even a chainsaw doens't cut
end grain well. On the outside of the bowl, you cut from the top rim of
the bowl towards the base. On the inside, you cut from the center out
and up towards the rim. As always tools have to be sharp. On the
inside, I open up the center with a gouge, and finish with various
scrapers. I got a Supercut tool from Packard Woodworks, and love the
smooth shear scraping cuts that I get from it.
Do find the closest turners club and go. Most of us can't resist
talking shop. It has been my biggest learning experience in my 7 years
of turning. Ask questions. The only problem you may have is that you
may get several different answers to your questions, just like this
news group. Many different methods can yield the same results, you just
have to figure out what works for you. If you can get to a few art and
craft shows (at some shows, I'm an artist, some I'm a craftman, and
some a woodworker, but the work is the same). If the turner isn't busy,
talk to them. Getting ideas to experiment with helps.
robo hippy



















Dave in Fairfax wrote:
harryc wrote:
I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes.
I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small
gouges,and some
hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to
sand
away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any
advise
or suggestions!!

This is a problem for everybody. It's also a time where it helps
to have someone work with you rather than try to explain it over
the net. There is sure to be a turning club near you. Check my
sig for the AAW link and go to local chapeters, look yours up by
state and find them. Join them and the AAW. You'll find a bunch
of people who'll be happy to help you work through the hard spots
and share coffee. If you have a neighbor who's a turner have them
take a look at what you're doing.

Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/

"harryc" wrote in message
...
I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small gouges,and
some
hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to sand
away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any advise
or suggestions!!

--

Until you're comfortable, taper the recesses of your pieces. That way there
will be a definite downhill, where you'll get some fiber support for your
cut. I use the edge of a fingernailed gouge or my pointy gouge to hollow
and finish, but it can get grabby if you don't get the bevel onto the cut
first, because you don't have good close support for the rest.
Nose slightly up, bevel touching to the left, then roll the gouge slightly
until the side portion of the grind - the part that's nearly vertical, comes
into play. As always, let the wood find the tool, don't go stabbing and
pressing, and you'll be able to pick the curl and draw it downhill.

For trimming the absolute end grain, Termite or other hook/ring tools are
great. Use them as if they were a right-angled gouge, setting up with some
shear angle near center, handle left, then catching the curl by moving the
handle to the right and drawing through the cut. You really want to get the
shear, not just for quality of cut, but because the tool fills up with
scraper dust, while passing the continuous shaving well.

Thank you all for your help
"harryc" wrote in message
...
I'm really have problems turning end grain both in bowls and boxes. I have
tried light shearing cuts with a round nose scrapper, small gouges,and
some hollowing tools but get allot of tearing out; that takes forever to
sand away. I have tried cutting down hill but I have little success. Any
advise or suggestions!!

--
Harry