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Working indoors with heat? Either will do. You'll take things to the
window to judge color, anyway. If you're in poorly or unheated, you'll want cold start fixtures and bulbs. "Denis Marier" wrote in message ... I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have purchased " Daylight or soft white. I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. Denis |
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Flourescent lighting creates a stroboscopic effect with rotating
machinery which could appear to be standing still ,take care and happy shavings Aubrey |
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"shape" wrote: Flourescent lighting creates a stroboscopic effect with rotating machinery which could appear to be standing still ,take care and happy shavings Aubrey The new fluorescent fixtures with electronic ballasts don't seem to have as much stroboscopic effect as the magnetic ballast fixtures do. -- Dan Kozar remove NOSPAM |
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![]() "Denis Marier" wrote in message ... I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have purchased " Daylight or soft white. I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. Denis You'll find the tubes you have will give a slight blue color but not really a big deal. In some of my shop light fixtures I have a cold white tube paired with a Warm White which makes it more like daylight. My wife also uses this combination in her plant stand with good results and is a lot cheaper than the Grow lights. I haven't had any problems with strobe effects but some people are more sensitive than others to this effect. Billh |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:22:14 GMT, "Denis Marier"
wrote: I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have purchased " Daylight or soft white. I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. Denis Incandescent is best for task lighting. I use a cheap drafting lamp and built my own wooden base screwed into the wall. I can position the lamp exactly where I need it. I did the same setup for my router table, drill press, and chop saw. A fluorescent lamp is tiring to the eyes and could produce annoying strobe patterns, although I use fluorescent for general shop lighting. |
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![]() "Phisherman" wrote in message Incandescent is best for task lighting. I use a cheap drafting lamp and built my own wooden base screwed into the wall. I can position the lamp exactly where I need it. I did the same setup for my router table, drill press, and chop saw. A fluorescent lamp is tiring to the eyes and could produce annoying strobe patterns, although I use fluorescent for general shop lighting. Second that. I bought two, relatively inexpensive machinist's lamps (magnetic base, flexible arm, metal reflector shade) and put one on the headstock and one on the ways when turning a bowl. They produce plenty of light and are positionable. Max |
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incadescents are horribly less efficicient than flourescents - for 160 watts
(two 8 ft tubes) you get a lot more light than a box full of 60 watt incadescents and a lot less heat too - you probably want both, the incadescent for spot lighting and directional lighting of your work when you need it, and the fluorescents for general shop lighting. I know I use both... "Maxprop" wrote in message t... "Phisherman" wrote in message Incandescent is best for task lighting. I use a cheap drafting lamp and built my own wooden base screwed into the wall. I can position the lamp exactly where I need it. I did the same setup for my router table, drill press, and chop saw. A fluorescent lamp is tiring to the eyes and could produce annoying strobe patterns, although I use fluorescent for general shop lighting. Second that. I bought two, relatively inexpensive machinist's lamps (magnetic base, flexible arm, metal reflector shade) and put one on the headstock and one on the ways when turning a bowl. They produce plenty of light and are positionable. Max |
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![]() "william_b_noble" wrote in message incadescents are horribly less efficicient than flourescents - for 160 watts (two 8 ft tubes) you get a lot more light than a box full of 60 watt incadescents and a lot less heat too - you probably want both, the incadescent for spot lighting and directional lighting of your work when you need it, and the fluorescents for general shop lighting. I know I use both... Guess I should have mentioned that I have several fluorescent fixtures overhead in the shop, one immediately above the lathe. The incandescents simply brighten and add definition to the workpiece when turning. Max |
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![]() "Maxprop" wrote in message t... "Phisherman" wrote in message Incandescent is best for task lighting. I use a cheap drafting lamp and built my own wooden base screwed into the wall. I can position the lamp exactly where I need it. I did the same setup for my router table, drill press, and chop saw. A fluorescent lamp is tiring to the eyes and could produce annoying strobe patterns, although I use fluorescent for general shop lighting. Second that. I bought two, relatively inexpensive machinist's lamps (magnetic base, flexible arm, metal reflector shade) and put one on the headstock and one on the ways when turning a bowl. They produce plenty of light and are positionable. I found that mounting the lamps to the stand shortened their bulb life, so my swing arm floods are now mounted off the stand and burning longer. I like to blame the stroboscopic effect for the barked knuckles I get sometimes when cutting interrupted-edge bowls. |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:08:29 -0500, "George" george@least wrote:
I found that mounting the lamps to the stand shortened their bulb life, so my swing arm floods are now mounted off the stand and burning longer. I like to blame the stroboscopic effect for the barked knuckles I get sometimes when cutting interrupted-edge bowls. ok.. admission to tackiness time: I was turning a pencil holder for my wife last night and felt like I was drilling a mine shaft in the dark, once I got down a few inches. (shoulda drilled it first, I guess) I got my handy-dandy HF fluorescent trouble light out and hung it on an adjustable height roller stand behind me... It worked great, was very adjustable and CHEAP.. lol (note to self: if ever doing serious turning on a shopsmith, put the sucker up on blocks!) |
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![]() Hi Mac, yes we all do those things, nothing wrong with it if it works for you, and like George says keep it off the vibrating machine , be it lathe, grinder, sander, saw or whatever else, the super hot filaments don't take kindly to the shaking G that is going on, I've a couple of quarts spot lights on either side of my lathe, but I block the light very often with body or arm or just the depth of the turning will not let the light get there where I need it, for that I have one of those pivoting desk lamp with the elbow/wrist kind of hinge points, and made a couple of bracket/hole dohickys (so that I can place the light in the best possible positioning), on the shelf and wall next to my lathe, even then I would like a better way at times, I have been looking for a inexpensive Light Emitting Diode (LED) that gives enough light and which I would be able to attach and remove from my cutting tool easily, have not made up my mind how or what, but I hope to find a better lighting solution to the problem of not able to see what I want. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo mac davis wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:08:29 -0500, "George" george@least wrote: I found that mounting the lamps to the stand shortened their bulb life, so my swing arm floods are now mounted off the stand and burning longer. I like to blame the stroboscopic effect for the barked knuckles I get sometimes when cutting interrupted-edge bowls. ok.. admission to tackiness time: I was turning a pencil holder for my wife last night and felt like I was drilling a mine shaft in the dark, once I got down a few inches. (shoulda drilled it first, I guess) I got my handy-dandy HF fluorescent trouble light out and hung it on an adjustable height roller stand behind me... It worked great, was very adjustable and CHEAP.. lol (note to self: if ever doing serious turning on a shopsmith, put the sucker up on blocks!) |
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mac davis wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:08:29 -0500, "George" george@least wrote: I found that mounting the lamps to the stand shortened their bulb life, so my swing arm floods are now mounted off the stand and burning longer. I like to blame the stroboscopic effect for the barked knuckles I get sometimes when cutting interrupted-edge bowls. ok.. admission to tackiness time: I was turning a pencil holder for my wife last night and felt like I was drilling a mine shaft in the dark, once I got down a few inches. (shoulda drilled it first, I guess) I got my handy-dandy HF fluorescent trouble light out and hung it on an adjustable height roller stand behind me... It worked great, was very adjustable and CHEAP.. lol (note to self: if ever doing serious turning on a shopsmith, put the sucker up on blocks!) Mac I noticed your Shopsmith note concerning blocks and was interested as to what you exactly meant. Do you elevated the unit because the height is not what you prefer or are you adding weight to keep it from vibrating? As due to economic consideration I also turn with a shopsmith. Two eight pound bags of Quickcrete placed across the horizontal bars seem to settle it down to and except-able degree. -- To reply drop "spam" from the email address "woodturning" The ability to turn useful material to sawdust Floyd "Who" |
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Hi Dennis
Dennis daylight and warm white give a redder light and I have used them with plants and also combined with cool white, but for the use by my lathe I like the cool whites best, I also use a incandescence quarts light bulb to give me less cycle flicker, which you can have sometimes when the 60 hertz coincides with the rotation speed of the wood, and that can drive you crazy. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Denis Marier wrote: I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have purchased " Daylight or soft white. I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. Denis |
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Denis Marier wrote:
: I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. : I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back : home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have : purchased " Daylight or soft white. : I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. I use full-spectrum fluorescents, which are just a little pricier than the cold white ones. Much nicer light to be in, and it's much closer to daylight. -- Andy Barss |
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Thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread. This newsgroup is packed
with hand on experience and know how. The information is helpful to me. Again thanks for sharing your experience. "Andrew Barss" wrote in message ... Denis Marier wrote: : I just bought on sale a 48" shoplight. : I did not exactly what type of fluorescent light tubes to get. I got back : home with Super Saver Cold White. Then I learned that I could have : purchased " Daylight or soft white. : I wonder what is the most popular with type used for woodturning. I use full-spectrum fluorescents, which are just a little pricier than the cold white ones. Much nicer light to be in, and it's much closer to daylight. -- Andy Barss |
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