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Critique of Pure Woodturning. (musing during the long power outage)
There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being
formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag?  As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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"Arch" wrote in message (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Welcome back, Arch. Our concern, while apparently unfounded, was genuine. Max |
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Arch: You need to avoid using such Kant! If you persist in this, then
please apply the reasoning of "The Critique of Judgment." *G* Leif "Arch" wrote in message ... There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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(Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood,
our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Things can be replaced, people cannot. Glad you are OK! Harry |
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Welcome back Arch. We were conserned.
Henry "Arch" wrote in message ... There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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After the hurricanes, Arch seems to be stuck in that "cause and effect"
conundrum posited by Kant. He should really get up-to-date with quantum theory!*G* Leif "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:33:56 -0400, (Arch) wrote: I think you need a generator for your lathe, Arch... *g* There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings Mac 03 Tahoe Widelite 26GT Travel Trailer replaced 1958 Hilite tent trailer 99 Dodge Ram QQ 2wd - 5.9L, auto, 3:55 gears |
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Hello Arch, you had me worried there you know, but now welkom back. Well the metal and the wood and the mud gets shaped with a tool and I think some persons are able to make useful or useless(emty?) things regardless of the mode or model, ( beautiful, emotion provoking ?), sounds like a woman And there also: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What to name them, why not undifineables or is that to undistinctiable ? Than exbowle or unbowle will not make the cut either im afraid. The ball is back in your court again I'm afraid Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Arch wrote: There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. /snipetty snip/ So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Arch, interesting musing as usual, I'm glad you're back.
Pascal |
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Maybe we should take him for a dip in some LDD? ducking
"Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... After the hurricanes, Arch seems to be stuck in that "cause and effect" conundrum posited by Kant. He should really get up-to-date with quantum theory!*G* Leif "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:33:56 -0400, (Arch) wrote: I think you need a generator for your lathe, Arch... *g* There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings Mac 03 Tahoe Widelite 26GT Travel Trailer replaced 1958 Hilite tent trailer 99 Dodge Ram QQ 2wd - 5.9L, auto, 3:55 gears |
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Either a generator or maybe convert an old pickup axle on its side to a
engine powered belt drive lathe! Glad you made it ok Arch! "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:33:56 -0400, (Arch) wrote: I think you need a generator for your lathe, Arch... *g* There is a sort of spectrum of works that are revolved while being formed by a moving tool. At one end is the machined hard metal workpiece revolved on an engine lathe. The tools are ridigely held and moved mechanically to precisely remove metal. In the vast middle that we woodturners occupy, the wood blank is revolved on a less complicated lathe. The softer work is formed by tools held in the hand and wielded freely. At the spectrum's other end is the clay pot revolved on a simple wheel. The tools are most often hands and fingers that punch, shape, fold and add or subtract the plastic medium. Some reactionaries might wish for a clear digital distinction of our way of doing things as woodturners and not as machinists or potters, but it's an analog world. Woodturning grades into machining with metal spinning, copy lathes, laser guides, captured tools, indexing, etc. We emulate potters by steam bending, shaping thin green blanks, carving, routing and forming surfaces by pulling, off the rest, long bevelled gouges that sport named grinds. So what? Well for starters many wood artists who stray across the above spectrum and far beyond, have advanced the wood bowl into a wonderful new and different art form from its limits as a container. Most often these lovely works are not recognizable as bowls and so are misnamed. I suggest that for now these beautiful thought and emotion provoking pieces that can't hold water be referred to as 'bowles'. I defer to Leif and other wordsmiths, but I don't believe 'bowle' is a word in use. As with home subdivisions such as 'Bay Pointe' and the like, the 'e' might add a bit of distinction and tone... or could it be two pounds in a one pound bag? As always, debate is encouraged. Arch (Many thanks for your concern re the hurricanes. As with turning wood, our house fared better than many and worse than some). A. Fortiter, http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings Mac 03 Tahoe Widelite 26GT Travel Trailer replaced 1958 Hilite tent trailer 99 Dodge Ram QQ 2wd - 5.9L, auto, 3:55 gears |
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if it holds water it's a bowl, otherwise it's art
A gallery owner once told me about a tourist who came into her shop, picked up one of my vessels, and exclaimed, "Hey, this thing's got holes in it. What do you do with it?" She said, "It's art; you look at it!" -mike paulson, fort collins, co |
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