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Beginner looking for help with generic (aka "ProfessionalWoodworker") lathe
I have a "Proefssional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to
me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. I'd appreciate any help, as I really enjoy turning. It's much quieter than my usual woodworking activities, which means it's easier for me to sneak off to the workshop and not have to worry about waking the kids or the neighbors. Thanks, Nathan |
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Take both centers off and take them to a machine shop, they will be able to
identify the thread and size. If the headstock shaft is 1 1/8 or more in diameter, the same shop may be able to center bore your head stock shaft and put a morris taper #2 in it. If nothing else they should be able to make a face plate for it. With anyluck it will be a 1" 8tpi which is very common. Good Luck Joe "nhurst" wrote in message ... I have a "Proefssional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. I'd appreciate any help, as I really enjoy turning. It's much quieter than my usual woodworking activities, which means it's easier for me to sneak off to the workshop and not have to worry about waking the kids or the neighbors. Thanks, Nathan |
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"JOE MOHNIKE" wrote in message om... Take both centers off and take them to a machine shop, they will be able to identify the thread and size. If the headstock shaft is 1 1/8 or more in diameter, the same shop may be able to center bore your head stock shaft and put a morris taper #2 in it. If nothing else they should be able to make a face plate for it. With anyluck it will be a 1" 8tpi which is very common. Good Luck Joe "nhurst" wrote in message ... I have a "Proefssional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. I'd appreciate any help, as I really enjoy turning. It's much quieter than my usual woodworking activities, which means it's easier for me to sneak off to the workshop and not have to worry about waking the kids or the neighbors. Thanks, Nathan Or, measure the threads per inch and major diameter and go with it... http://mdmetric.com/tech/tic1e.htm |
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nhurst wrote:
I have a "Proefssional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. I'd appreciate any help, as I really enjoy turning. It's much quieter than my usual woodworking activities, which means it's easier for me to sneak off to the workshop and not have to worry about waking the kids or the neighbors. Thanks, Nathan A great place to begin and do not get in a hurry to move up. Learning what is what on your lathe will pay dividens later. As for the machine shop, you could try a hardware store that stocks bolts from 3/4" to 1 1/2" and take your face plate in and see what fits. If you do have a 1" by 8tpi Harbor Freight sells their 6" face plates for around $5.00 each. Even with s/h that is not a bad deal. Considering you will probably have a catalog laying around and add a few pieces to it. Enjoy Deb |
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Dr. Deb wrote:
nhurst wrote: I have a "Proefssional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. I'd appreciate any help, as I really enjoy turning. It's much quieter than my usual woodworking activities, which means it's easier for me to sneak off to the workshop and not have to worry about waking the kids or the neighbors. Thanks, Nathan A great place to begin and do not get in a hurry to move up. Learning what is what on your lathe will pay dividens later. As for the machine shop, you could try a hardware store that stocks bolts from 3/4" to 1 1/2" and take your face plate in and see what fits. If you do have a 1" by 8tpi Harbor Freight sells their 6" face plates for around $5.00 each. Even with s/h that is not a bad deal. Considering you will probably have a catalog laying around and add a few pieces to it. Enjoy Deb Just a thought here and blowing my own horn, but come on over to http://aroundthewoods.com . There is a lot of stuff here for a beginner, including roughing a bowl between centers. To finish it you will need a face plate, but there are some hints about that too. Darrell -- Darrell Feltmate http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com |
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nhurst wrote:
I have a "Professional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. Does your lathe look essentially like this model from Harbor Freight? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38515 This variety seems to be sold by various vendors, but the up-shot is if you have one that looks like this--you're going to have difficulties getting accessories for it since it doesn't have Morris Taper fittings on either the head or tail stock. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. If your lathe does look like the one from Harbor Freight, the manual for the Harbor Freight lathe can be downloaded in PDF format. My first lathe looked like that, but was branded as made by Cummins. The manuals for my Cummins and the Harbor Freight lathe are very similar with only obvious things like vendor names and addresses being changed. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. This sounds like the first lathe I got, which looks like the aforementioned Harbor Freight model. It came with a face plate the manual called a "chuck" and a drive center. Both were threaded to fit the head stock. I don't know if all the lathes that look like this are the same, but the one I had uses a fairly odd size metric pattern of M18x2.5. An easy way to determine if this is the same for you is to take the drive center off the lathe and then go to a hardware store that has a good selection of SAE and Metric nuts and bolts. Experiment with the different bolts and see what fits into the threads of the drive center. Be sure to check all of these 3/4"x8, 3/4"x16 and M18x2.5. If it turns out that the head stock is M18x2.5, you do have one option for getting a chuck, which you need for turning bowls. The Nova brand of chucks from Teknatool use adapters such that you buy the chuck and then get the appropriate adapter to fit your head stock. What you'd need is the IKNS adapter which provides the correct threading: http://www.teknatool.com/products/La...aptor_page.htm You can buy the chuck from any number of different vendors, but you'll have a bit more of a challenge getting the IKNS adapter. I wound up buying the G3 chuck from Woodcraft and then ordering the IKNS adapter directly from Teknatool. After I did that, I found out this vendor can sell you both: http://www.woodworkerspecialties.com/Pages/turning.htm I've not actually used this vendor, so I'd suggest contacting him first to verify he can provide the parts you need. Something else to consider is to get another lathe. That's ultimately what I did when I started hitting the limitation of no Morris Taper fittings. Rockler currently has a special for a Wilton mini lathe for $99 and free shipping: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=mini%20lathe I have no experience with this particular lathe, but for the price it seems like a reasonable gamble. You can also view the manual for it on-line he http://images.rockler.com/tech/RTD10000595AA.pdf Based on the manual, it looks like both the head stock and tail stock use a #1 Morris Taper. The head stock is also threaded at 3/4"x16 which is fairly standard. If you opt to get another lathe and you're wondering what to do with the first one . . . I'm planning on turning my first one into a disc sander or a buffing station. |
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"Michael Faurot" wrote in message ... nhurst wrote: I have a "Professional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. Does your lathe look essentially like this model from Harbor Freight? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38515 This variety seems to be sold by various vendors, but the up-shot is if you have one that looks like this--you're going to have difficulties getting accessories for it since it doesn't have Morris Taper fittings on either the head or tail stock. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. If your lathe does look like the one from Harbor Freight, the manual for the Harbor Freight lathe can be downloaded in PDF format. My first lathe looked like that, but was branded as made by Cummins. The manuals for my Cummins and the Harbor Freight lathe are very similar with only obvious things like vendor names and addresses being changed. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. This sounds like the first lathe I got, which looks like the aforementioned Harbor Freight model. It came with a face plate the manual called a "chuck" and a drive center. Both were threaded to fit the head stock. I don't know if all the lathes that look like this are the same, but the one I had uses a fairly odd size metric pattern of M18x2.5. An easy way to determine if this is the same for you is to take the drive center off the lathe and then go to a hardware store that has a good selection of SAE and Metric nuts and bolts. Experiment with the different bolts and see what fits into the threads of the drive center. Be sure to check all of these 3/4"x8, 3/4"x16 and M18x2.5. If it turns out that the head stock is M18x2.5, you do have one option for getting a chuck, which you need for turning bowls. The Nova brand of chucks from Teknatool use adapters such that you buy the chuck and then get the appropriate adapter to fit your head stock. What you'd need is the IKNS adapter which provides the correct threading: http://www.teknatool.com/products/La...aptor_page.htm You can buy the chuck from any number of different vendors, but you'll have a bit more of a challenge getting the IKNS adapter. I wound up buying the G3 chuck from Woodcraft and then ordering the IKNS adapter directly from Teknatool. After I did that, I found out this vendor can sell you both: http://www.woodworkerspecialties.com/Pages/turning.htm I've not actually used this vendor, so I'd suggest contacting him first to verify he can provide the parts you need. Something else to consider is to get another lathe. That's ultimately what I did when I started hitting the limitation of no Morris Taper fittings. Rockler currently has a special for a Wilton mini lathe for $99 and free shipping: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=mini%20lathe I have no experience with this particular lathe, but for the price it seems like a reasonable gamble. You can also view the manual for it on-line he http://images.rockler.com/tech/RTD10000595AA.pdf Based on the manual, it looks like both the head stock and tail stock use a #1 Morris Taper. The head stock is also threaded at 3/4"x16 which is fairly standard. If you opt to get another lathe and you're wondering what to do with the first one . . . I'm planning on turning my first one into a disc sander or a buffing station. Just for easy reference (it'll matter if the OP tries to search for stuff), it's Morse Taper, usually abbreviated mt or mt1 (for duh, Morse taper 1) or mt2 (again, duh, Morse taper 2). If he's lucky, it's 3/4X16TPI. Not the best option but easy places like Sears has attachments. Ed |
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On Jan 1, 6:44*pm, "Ed Edelenbos" wrote:
"Michael Faurot" wrote in message ... nhurst wrote: I have a "Professional Woodworker" 4 speed lathe that someone gave to me after the motor capacitor died. I got it replaced and working again and I got the HSS turning set from Harbor Freight. Does your lathe look essentially like this model from Harbor Freight? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38515 This variety seems to be sold by various vendors, but the up-shot is if you have one that looks like this--you're going to have difficulties getting accessories for it since it doesn't have Morris Taper fittings on either the head or tail stock. I've been doing practice type projects, but the lathe only came with the parts for spindle work. I don't have a manual or anything, and Google has only turned up other people in my situation. If your lathe does look like the one from Harbor Freight, the manual for the Harbor Freight lathe can be downloaded in PDF format. *My first lathe looked like that, but was branded as made by Cummins. *The manuals for my Cummins and the Harbor Freight lathe are very similar with only obvious things like vendor names and addresses being changed. I'd like to try a bowl, but I don't know where to go to find the right parts. How can I figure out the threading on the spindle so I can either fabricate or purchase a faceplate? Both the chuck and the live center are screw-on type, so I can't use morse-tapered accessories, I believe. This sounds like the first lathe I got, which looks like the aforementioned Harbor Freight model. *It came with a face plate the manual called a "chuck" and a drive center. *Both were threaded to fit the head stock. *I don't know if all the lathes that look like this are the same, but the one I had uses a fairly odd size metric pattern of M18x2.5. *An easy way to determine if this is the same for you is to take the drive center off the lathe and then go to a hardware store that has a good selection of SAE and Metric nuts and bolts. *Experiment with the different bolts and see what fits into the threads of the drive center. *Be sure to check all of these 3/4"x8, 3/4"x16 and M18x2.5. If it turns out that the head stock is M18x2.5, you do have one option for getting a chuck, which you need for turning bowls. *The Nova brand of chucks from Teknatool use adapters such that you buy the chuck and then get the appropriate adapter to fit your head stock. *What you'd need is the IKNS adapter which provides the correct threading: http://www.teknatool.com/products/La...aptor_page.htm You can buy the chuck from any number of different vendors, but you'll have a bit more of a challenge getting the IKNS adapter. *I wound up buying the G3 chuck from Woodcraft and then ordering the IKNS adapter directly from Teknatool. *After I did that, I found out this vendor can sell you both: http://www.woodworkerspecialties.com/Pages/turning.htm I've not actually used this vendor, so I'd suggest contacting him first to verify he can provide the parts you need. Something else to consider is to get another lathe. *That's ultimately what I did when I started hitting the limitation of no Morris Taper fittings. *Rockler currently has a special for a Wilton mini lathe for $99 and free shipping: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=mini%20lathe I have no experience with this particular lathe, but for the price it seems like a reasonable gamble. *You can also view the manual for it on-line he http://images.rockler.com/tech/RTD10000595AA.pdf Based on the manual, it looks like both the head stock and tail stock use a #1 Morris Taper. *The head stock is also threaded at 3/4"x16 which is fairly standard. If you opt to get another lathe and you're wondering what to do with the first one . . . *I'm planning on turning my first one into a disc sander or a buffing station. Just for easy reference (it'll matter if the OP tries to search for stuff), it's Morse Taper, usually abbreviated mt or mt1 (for duh, Morse taper 1) or mt2 (again, duh, Morse taper 2). If he's lucky, it's 3/4X16TPI. *Not the best option but easy places like Sears has attachments. Ed Excellent advice everyone! I haven't had time to unscrew the chuck and take it to the store, but I appreciate the time taken to help me out. I should be able to do the work needed to check everything out this week. Thanks again, Nathan |
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