I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but none
which say who sells it.
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Set Square wrote:
I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but none
which say who sells it.


I also spent ages looking for what I call Engineers Blue - my version
was the stuff I used to paint on sheet metal at school prior to marking
out. Never did find it!

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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.
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It is called marking out fluid:
google shows:
http://www.tool-up.co.uk/shop/diy/ROC57034.html

as an early hit.

You can buy it from any engineering suppliers.

mrcheerful

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:15:47 GMT, "mrcheerful
.." wrote:


"Set Square" wrote in message
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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.
--

It is called marking out fluid:
google shows:
http://www.tool-up.co.uk/shop/diy/ROC57034.html

as an early hit.

You can buy it from any engineering suppliers.

mrcheerful

The last time I bought some it was in the form of a very broad felt
tip pen .. I didn't think I'd like it but it works very well .. ;-)

See here for yer local small engineering supplier ..

http://www.modeleng.org/supply.htm

(I use GLR quite a bit and from memory was where I got my marking out
'pen' from)

You may find a big, basic marker pen may do anyway?

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:39:37 GMT, T i m wrote:

The last time I bought some it was in the form of a very broad felt
tip pen .. I didn't think I'd like it but it works very well .. ;-)

See here for yer local small engineering supplier ..

http://www.modeleng.org/supply.htm

(I use GLR quite a bit and from memory was where I got my marking out
'pen' from)

You may find a big, basic marker pen may do anyway?

You can get it in white and blue, and as a marker pen or spray can.

http://www.rocol.com/lubricants/engl...ing/layoutink/

A list of suppliers
http://www.rocol.com/lubricants/engl.../search_uk.php

J

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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Frost sell it 3 quid inc. for 38g. Part number J270. Probably cheaper
elsewhere, though.
www.frost.co.uk

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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.
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Are we confusing two products. One is for Marking Out purposes and is a
quick drying spirit based blue coating that will provide a high contrast for
scribed lines.

The other is Engineers Blue / Micrometer Blue - a deep prussian blue greasy
stuff. This is typically used to help to identify high spots on flat
surfaces. It is non-drying.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:48:10 -0000, "Set Square"
wrote:

I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Deep blue shoe polish works almost as well.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:48:10 -0000, "Set Square"
wrote:

I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.


Permanent or dry wipe markers work well

Regards Jeff

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:48:10 -0000, "Set Square"
wrote:

I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Model Engineer's suppliers. You might get it at the Real Engineer's
shop, but it's getting hard to find.

There are two sorts - one is blue dye in solvent, one is blue dye in a
greasy solvent. For marking out puposes the aerosol stuff is quickest
and easiest to use(easiest to find these days too). For fitting
purposes, you need the greasy sort - it takes longer to dry. Best
bought in tins, because a leaky tube of this is not your toolbox's
friend !

As alternatives, a wipe with a marker pen works for marking out with a
scriber. For fitting use either shoe polish or soft graphite pencil,
depending on the hardness of the materials.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:15:47 GMT, "mrcheerful
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"Set Square" wrote in message
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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.
--

It is called marking out fluid:
google shows:
http://www.tool-up.co.uk/shop/diy/ROC57034.html

I remember it as a sort of grease; indeed the tin I have is deep blue
grease. I've never seen a "fluid" form.

I've had this stuff for decades and can't remember where I bought it
:-(

--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland

"mrcheerful ." wrote in message
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"Set Square" wrote in message
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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.
--

It is called marking out fluid:

That is a fluid for making marking out on metal more visible. You paint it
on, let it dry and scribe throough it. It is not engineer's blue, which is a
paste you put between two metal pieces, to show you the low spots after
rubbing them together.

Colin Bignell

"Set Square" wrote in message
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I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Google comes up with lots of hits describing *uses* of the stuff - but
none
which say who sells it.

Look up engineers' suppliers in yellow pages.

Colin Bignell

nightjar nightjar@ wrote:


It is called marking out fluid:


That is a fluid for making marking out on metal more visible. You paint it
on, let it dry and scribe throough it. It is not engineer's blue, which is a
paste you put between two metal pieces, to show you the low spots after
rubbing them together.

Colin Bignell



True, but at school it was (erroneously I now know) called engineers
blue. Hence the trouble I have had in finding it.

Richard


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Are we confusing two products. One is for Marking Out purposes and is a
quick drying spirit based blue coating that will provide a high contrast
for scribed lines.

Right. You live and learn.

The other is Engineers Blue / Micrometer Blue - a deep prussian blue
greasy stuff. This is typically used to help to identify high spots on
flat surfaces. It is non-drying.

That's what I understand by the term. Only thing I've used it for was to
check the mating of valves in a car cylinder head after grinding in, etc.

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Richard wrote:
It is called marking out fluid:

That is a fluid for making marking out on metal more visible. You
paint it on, let it dry and scribe throough it. It is not engineer's
blue, which is a paste you put between two metal pieces, to show you
the low spots after rubbing them together.

True, but at school it was (erroneously I now know) called engineers
blue. Hence the trouble I have had in finding it.

Normally, schools get that sort of thing right. Engineer's blue has always
been a method of checking where bearing surfaces touch.

Some thing for enhancing marking out has never been called engineer's
blue.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:48:10 -0000, "Set Square"
wrote:

I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism
is
fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.


To check where a door is fouling you can also use masking tape, see
where it gets scraped, or even simpler, just hold a piece of paper in
the way as you close and see where it sticks.

Engineers blue is also used to dot the parts on electronic assemblies
that have been checked. When they need 2nd and 3rd checks, the thing
gets progressively more colourful after each check.


NT

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As an alternative you can use the smoke from a candle as an indicator. I
used this method many years ago on my bikes but I can't remember exactly
what for!

Cic.

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Engineers Blue is a trade name. The same stuff can be found under by doing a
search for Marking Blue at R S Components.
http://rswww.com

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:17:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Some thing for enhancing marking out has never been called engineer's
blue.

It was in 1958, when my gallon can of it was made.

No, I _still_ haven't finished it.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Set Square wrote:
I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism
is fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Frost sell it 3 quid inc. for 38g. Part number J270. Probably cheaper
elsewhere, though.
www.frost.co.uk

Many thanks to all who replied - even if some did want me a buy a litre of
the stuff for 20 quid!

Meanwhile, I tried marker pens - and even car touch-up paint - to little
avail, but I think I've now cracked it.

The door in question is a uPVC outside door with a multi-point locking
system. In order to lock it, you need to lift the handle as high as
possible - which throws various bolts and claw-like devices, which engage
with metal plates on the frame. The problem was that the last bit of handle
movement was very stiff and graunchy - and I couldn't see which of the bolts
was the cuprit.

I finally fixed it by removing the plates from the frame one at a time until
I found which one was fouling. Because the door had sagged a bit, one of the
claw-like devices was pushing on the bottom of its slot and trying to lift
the door. [This didn't scrape any marker off!] By filing out the hole in the
frame plate a bit, it is now much better.
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Set Square wrote:
I need some engineer's blue to find out which part of the mechanism
is fouling on one of my doors - but I don't know where to get it.

Frost sell it 3 quid inc. for 38g. Part number J270. Probably cheaper
elsewhere, though.
www.frost.co.uk

Many thanks to all who replied - even if some did want me a buy a litre of
the stuff for 20 quid!

Meanwhile, I tried marker pens - and even car touch-up paint - to little
avail, but I think I've now cracked it.

The door in question is a uPVC outside door with a multi-point locking
system. In order to lock it, you need to lift the handle as high as
possible - which throws various bolts and claw-like devices, which engage
with metal plates on the frame. The problem was that the last bit of
handle
movement was very stiff and graunchy - and I couldn't see which of the
bolts
was the cuprit.

I finally fixed it by removing the plates from the frame one at a time
until
I found which one was fouling. Because the door had sagged a bit, one of
the
claw-like devices was pushing on the bottom of its slot and trying to lift
the door. [This didn't scrape any marker off!] By filing out the hole in
the
frame plate a bit, it is now much better.
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why didn't you just lift the door via the adjustable hinges ?

Regards Jeff

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why didn't you just lift the door via the adjustable hinges ?

Regards Jeff


Funny you should say that! It's a second-hand door which came with no
instructions - and earlier today I worked out how to adjust it in two
different planes, using two different-sized Allen keys!

It's now closing and locking perfectly.
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