Andy F Batter wrote:

This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills (while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each. We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to buy...

Cordless I take it?


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This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills (while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each. We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to buy...

TIA

Andy

"John Rumm" wrote in message

Cordless I take it?

No, 240v is fine.

Andy

Andy F Batter wrote:

"John Rumm" wrote in message


Cordless I take it?


No, 240v is fine.

In which case it may be worth looking at the drill either designed for
mixing or core boring since you need low speed, high torque, and
endurance. It is also the sort of continous use that will tend to kill
drills that do not have effective cooling at low speeds.

Perhaps:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...79785&id=17702
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...79642&id=17702
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=22306&recno=5

While you don't need the impact capability, SDS drills tend to be slower
speed anyway. A good variable speed control witha safety clutch could work:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0


Or for a core drill:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=30549&recno=1
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=22639&recno=3


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Andy F Batter wrote:
This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in
the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills
(while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each.
We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which
are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either
direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to
buy...

Well, it's not a 'pro' drill, but my Bosch SDS drill has lasted well,
and I use it for light chiselling and power driving screws regularly.

Bosch do a pro version with ruggedised gears but it's about =A3160-170.
Worth paying out if you want something that'll last.

Or go for the 110V version. Most of these are already ruggedised for
site use ...

Cheers,

Paul.

In article ,
"Andy F Batter" wrote:

This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills (while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each. We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to buy...

Andy,

This Kress model is in the latest Wickes catalogue for £100.

http://www.kress-elektrik.de/en/prod...ct.php?id=1890

.... although mention of Kress in this newsgroup usually results in a
heated debate.

Mike

In article , "Andy F
Batter" says...
This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills (while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each. We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to buy...

Something like this?

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...eferrer=static

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...

In which case it may be worth looking at the drill either designed for
mixing or core boring since you need low speed, high torque, and
endurance.

That was all very very useful, thank you.

Thanks too to all others who responded. An order hasn't been placed just
yet, but I'd be surprised if I opt for something which hasn't been suggested
here.

Andy

It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Andy F Batter"
wrote:

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

If 240V is OK, then look for a "slow drill", as used by plasterers for
mixing, or by timber framers for drilling large holes. Wickes sell one
for 99 quid that's cheap, but uninspiring to handle. The one that the
framers use because it doesn't die is the Makita (not cheap,
Axminster have them).

For cordless, try the red Milwaukee stuff (new to the UK, Isaac Lord
have them). Read last month's Fine Woodworking mag for a multi-review
on good cordless drills and why they differ.

In article ,
Andy F Batter wrote:
Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to buy...

300 rpm is way below any standard mains drill speed. And a vary-speed one
isn't going to be happy with prolonged high torque use. You'd need to look
at something suitable for mixing plaster, etc.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...

If 240V is OK, then look for a "slow drill"

I went for this one in the end... (thanks John)
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=22306&recno=5

Thanks for the affirmation that a slow drill is what I needed.

I like the idea that it's a set speed, as I occasionally let contractors do
the winching, and they invariable twiddle with anything that can be
adjusted, set it to 20,000rpm, and then tell me that it's started to smoke
when being used.

Andy

Dave Plowman (News) typed:

In article ,
Andy F Batter wrote:
Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant. Any
recommendations welcome, both for the drill and the best place to
buy...

300 rpm is way below any standard mains drill speed. And a vary-speed
one isn't going to be happy with prolonged high torque use. You'd
need to look at something suitable for mixing plaster, etc.

I almost posted a link to one, but none (that I know of)
do reverse ;-(

It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Andy F Batter"
wrote:

Thanks for the affirmation that a slow drill is what I needed.

Just shows you shouldn't believe all the rubbish that's on the net !
I've never used a Makita slow drill - don't even know if they make
one. What I should have written was Hitachi - the green ones.

Fortunately that seems to be the one you've gone for anyway.

I went for this one in the end... (thanks John)
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=22306&recno=5

"Andy F Batter" wrote in message
...
This has to be the best place to ask...

I need a reliable drill for spinning winches, ie, we put a hook in the
chuck, slot that into the winch and spin it... It beats hand winding!

We once had a Krell drill which lasted 5 years, the last three drills
(while
having similar specs on paper) have lasted about a fortnight each.

We are
looking for something powerful, but it's the torque and gearing which are
most important. Somethng which can be set to spin in either direction
steadily at 300 rpm with lots of power would be brilliant.

Sounds like one of the 110volt Makita units with the hammer in chucks would
be idea. Torque is enormous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy Dingley wrote:


Just shows you shouldn't believe all the rubbish that's on the net !
I've never used a Makita slow drill - don't even know if they make
one. What I should have written was Hitachi - the green ones.

The closest match to the Hitachi would be:
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=112119

There are some others:
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...s&product=1504
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=112024

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Andy Dingley (I think) wrote:

Just shows you shouldn't believe all the rubbish that's on the net !
I've never used a Makita slow drill - don't even know if they make
one.

They do but not sure of the number - I hire it regularly. Excellent device
which will slowly but surely bore through anything. I expect there was one
on the channel tunnel drills :-)