Just been down to Paul Simon's to check out the sales as we need some new
carpets. Not replaced ours before so a little out of my depth. Do the
following prices seem good and the materials sensible for the application:

Underlay - £7.99 /m2
Fitting - £3.00 /m2

Bedroom is 7.5 m2
Lounge is 34.5 m2
Hall is 5.2 m2
Landing is 1.7 m2
Stairs join them ...

Total about 50 m2 I think ... dunno how to measure stairs. From his
calculations based on my drawings he converted (very badly!) to yards and
then back to meters and came up with 65 m2 ... which is a bit more than my
calculations, but then they'll come and measure up anyway if I go ahead with
this.

Based on his 65 m2 and taking the living room as 35 m2, he reckoned on £1500
total for a wool carpet in the living room and a nylon, tufted, woven backed
carpet for the rest with medium quality underlay and some spike strips (as
the stairs and landing are currently not carpeted). The nylon carpets are
at 75% off currently (£5.97 /m2) and the wool ones varied quite a bit, but
were more expensive (I think £10 /m2 for the standard ones, but some really
expensive ones (about £40 /m2 originally) were down to about £20 /m2 and the
quote was based on them).

How does this all sound? Any help appreciated )



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al wrote:

Just been down to Paul Simon's to check out the sales as we need some new
carpets. Not replaced ours before so a little out of my depth. Do the
following prices seem good and the materials sensible for the application:

Underlay - ï½£7.99 /m2
Fitting - ï½£3.00 /m2

Expensive...

Just ordered some from http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/
paid 3.59/sq m for Clound 9 Cirrus underlay. Last time I had a carpet
fitted IIRC, the price was something like 30 per room, or 45 for stairs
(i.e. flat rate not per sq meter).

Bedroom is 7.5 m2
Lounge is 34.5 m2
Hall is 5.2 m2
Landing is 1.7 m2
Stairs join them ...

Based on his 65 m2 and taking the living room as 35 m2, he reckoned on ï½£1500
total for a wool carpet in the living room and a nylon, tufted, woven backed
carpet for the rest with medium quality underlay and some spike strips (as
the stairs and landing are currently not carpeted). The nylon carpets are
at 75% off currently (ï½£5.97 /m2) and the wool ones varied quite a bit, but
were more expensive (I think ï½£10 /m2 for the standard ones, but some really
expensive ones (about ï½£40 /m2 originally) were down to about ï½£20 /m2 and the
quote was based on them).

How does this all sound? Any help appreciated )

That is much harder to call unless you know exactly what you are getting
and are hence able to compare like for like.



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al wrote:
Underlay - ?7.99 /m2
Fitting - ?3.00 /m2

Expensive...

Just ordered some from http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/
paid 3.59/sq m for Clound 9 Cirrus underlay. Last time I had a carpet
fitted IIRC, the price was something like 30 per room, or 45 for stairs
(i.e. flat rate not per sq meter).

Interesting ... perhaps you could help explain the appropriate application
of each thickness/quality level. What would you recommend for stairs,
landing & hall? Same for bedroom? Perhaps a better one for the lounge as
it's a better carpet there too? Any guidance appreciated!




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al wrote:

Interesting ... perhaps you could help explain the appropriate application
of each thickness/quality level. What would you recommend for stairs,
landing & hall? Same for bedroom? Perhaps a better one for the lounge as
it's a better carpet there too? Any guidance appreciated!

There is a fair amount of helpfull information on the site actually.
These two pages I found quite handy:

http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/index1.html
http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/faq.html

I went for the Cloud 9 Cirrus (9mm thick) version. That will be used for
landing and stairs, plus two bedrooms.




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John Rumm wrote:

There is a fair amount of helpfull information on the site actually.
These two pages I found quite handy:

http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/index1.html
http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/faq.html

I went for the Cloud 9 Cirrus (9mm thick) version. That will be used for
landing and stairs, plus two bedrooms.

Do you lay the carpet yourself or are you able to find someone locally
who will fit carpet without supplying it?

David

Lobster wrote:

Do you lay the carpet yourself or are you able to find someone locally
who will fit carpet without supplying it?

I will probably get it laid by fitters from the shop where I buy the
carpet - just onto "existing" underlay and grippers (which I will fit
myself the day before!).

While I have fitted carpets myself a few times, it is not a job I like
or do that well, so probably better to outsource it!

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There is a fair amount of helpfull information on the site actually. These
two pages I found quite handy:

http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/index1.html
http://www.discounted-carpet-underlay.co.uk/faq.html

I went for the Cloud 9 Cirrus (9mm thick) version. That will be used for
landing and stairs, plus two bedrooms.


My worry with the stairs was that if it were too thick, it may be difficult
to get the carpet to "bend" tight into the corners. Come to think of it ...
how does it work on stairs anyway? I presume the underlay comes as far as
the gripper and stops? Does that mean you have 10 pieces of underlay up
your stairs that you hope stays in place while you cover it with a carpet?

Also, would you go for a thicker one for the lounge or is 9mm pretty
standard for domestic use? Don't want to go overboard ....


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al wrote:

My worry with the stairs was that if it were too thick, it may be difficult
to get the carpet to "bend" tight into the corners. Come to think of it ...
how does it work on stairs anyway? I presume the underlay comes as far as
the gripper and stops? Does that mean you have 10 pieces of underlay up

You do.

your stairs that you hope stays in place while you cover it with a carpet?

I watched carefully last time I had some stairs carpeted. You have one
gripper on the back of the tread, and another at the base of the riser.
The underlay is cut into a section to cover the tread and then flop over
the front and down the riser to the next gripper. They then staple it in
place

With stair carpets I notice they also fix it in sections, with one
section only doing at most three steps. The joins being hidden in the
internal corner between tread and riser.

Also, would you go for a thicker one for the lounge or is 9mm pretty
standard for domestic use? Don't want to go overboard ....

Last time I got underlay (prior to this one) it was for (the old)
landing and stairs. So I bought a decent crumb rubber one so as to wear
well and also keep the foot fall noise down. The 9mm stuff I have just
gos looks to be similar or better, so I expect I would be quite happy
with that in most rooms.

(much of the underlay you get is of the "waffle" or "crumb rubber"
types, these are often specified in weight rather than thickness. Hence
it is not easy to compare size for size with the Cloud 9 stuff)

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al wrote:
Total about 50 m2 I think ... dunno how to measure stairs. From his
calculations based on my drawings he converted (very badly!) to yards
and then back to meters and came up with 65 m2 ... which is a bit more
than my calculations, but then they'll come and measure up anyway if I
go ahead with this.

Since carpet comes in only certain widths, there will always be some waste
- unless you're very lucky.

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