I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).


It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Well, seeing that the Ford Transit in it's SWB version has been the day-faco
standard that all other van maker has tried to equal in the class...

Why does it need to be smaller than a Transit, if I may ask ?

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).

Didn't know that - thanks. Hopwever, I don't plan to carry much weight
at once. Having said that, I guess ten sheets of 12mm plasterboard
must weigh quite a bit...

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Well, seeing that the Ford Transit in it's SWB version has been the day-faco
standard that all other van maker has tried to equal in the class...

Why does it need to be smaller than a Transit, if I may ask ?

Because it'll be my only transport for several months so I'll be using
it for nipping up to the shops in the built-up area where I live, and
zipping off on 30 mile trips in (hopefully) reasonably relaxed
comfort. I dread driving transits unless I really have to. I find
them so cumbersome. I'd like something narrower, like Hi Ace perhaps -
though I've never driven one, they look like they might be more
manoeverable than a transit.

Cheers,
K

"Kat" wrote in message
...
snip
comfort. I dread driving transits unless I really have to. I find
them so cumbersome. I'd like something narrower, like Hi Ace perhaps -
though I've never driven one, they look like they might be more
manoeverable than a transit.


Hm, forward control, not nice if your not used to it or confident...
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replying to Kat, Edward Rees wrote:
Good evening, I have a Renault traffic for sale 2013 with only 31.000miles
from new,service history, i have owned this van from New, Excellent Condition,
if interested ,give me a call on 07772583288,

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replying to Kat, Edward Rees wrote:
Good evening, I have a Renault traffic for sale 2013 with only 31.000miles
from new,service history, i have owned this van from New, Excellent
Condition,
if interested ,give me a call on 07772583288,

Rather unlikely to still be looking for one 16 years later.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

"Edward Rees" m wrote in
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replying to Kat, Edward Rees wrote:
Good evening, I have a Renault traffic for sale 2013 with only 31.000miles
from new,service history, i have owned this van from New, Excellent
Condition,
if interested ,give me a call on 07772583288,

Rather unlikely to still be looking for one 16 years later.

It has not been as long as you've had your website dedicated to your
trolling, senile cretin!

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oupdirect.com...
replying to Kat, Edward Rees wrote:
Good evening, I have a Renault traffic for sale 2013 with only
31.000miles
from new,service history, i have owned this van from New, Excellent
Condition,
if interested ,give me a call on 07772583288,

Rather unlikely to still be looking for one 16 years later.

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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).

My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said


Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc

Anna


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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:32:17 GMT, (Anna Kettle)
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).

My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said


Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc

Yes; it's certainly an option. I have owned an Escort Van and hired an
Astra van on occasion. Nice and small for parking but not as much room
as say a Hi-Ace or Vanette with about the same overall length.
Cheers,

K

"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:32:17 GMT, (Anna Kettle)
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to
carry
(legally).

My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said


Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc

Yes; it's certainly an option. I have owned an Escort Van and hired an
Astra van on occasion. Nice and small for parking but not as much room
as say a Hi-Ace or Vanette with about the same overall length.
Cheers,

K

Stay well away from Renaults, bloody expensive to keep on the road!!

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 22:48:55 GMT, "Stephen Dawson"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:32:17 GMT, (Anna Kettle)
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to
carry
(legally).

My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said


Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc

Yes; it's certainly an option. I have owned an Escort Van and hired an
Astra van on occasion. Nice and small for parking but not as much room
as say a Hi-Ace or Vanette with about the same overall length.
Cheers,

K

Stay well away from Renaults, bloody expensive to keep on the road!!

I will, thanks. Never owned a French vehicle yet... I've never found
one that I liked. I've only owned Britsh, Japanes, and American
vehicles so far...

K

You meant de facto

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You meant de facto

Well, he's has 15 years to find out.

FYI: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub

Yes, I can see the date on that post, why don't people with good eyesight
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interfaces which do not sort for year should be taken down as not fit for
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On 09/11/2020 21:31:22, Chap wrote:
You meant de facto

Well, he's has 15 years to find out.

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"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van? If you have enough storage space
you can order it all in one hit.

Also check with your insurance company wether you can get insurance on a
medium size van using your no claims off your car.

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van? If you have enough storage space
you can order it all in one hit.

Also check with your insurance company wether you can get insurance on a
medium size van using your no claims off your car.

Good suggestions, worth considering! Thank you...

K

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?

Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.

Cheers,

K

"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so
why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?

Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.


Well, unless you either don't have a sofa (or sofa sized stuff) or go for a
pick-up, something smaller than a Transit sized van will be more trouble
than it's worth in the removals dept.
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:10:11 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so
why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?

Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.


Well, unless you either don't have a sofa (or sofa sized stuff) or go for a
pick-up, something smaller than a Transit sized van will be more trouble
than it's worth in the removals dept.

Good point - thanks; but I have avoided sofas, and beds that can't be
dismantled or folded. What you said about forward controls in the Hi
Ace is a good point though. I have to admit I've never driven one, but
the lack of substance between me and the hypothetical concrete lamp
post I drive into is a bit unsettling... ;-)

K

"Kat" wrote
| ... the lack of substance between me and the hypothetical
| concrete lamp post I drive into is a bit unsettling... ;-)

Reassure yourself with the thought that hypothetical lamp posts only cause
hypothetical injuries :-)

Owain

"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why
go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?

Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.

Cheers,

K

Well you could hire a box van for that, around £70 per day here

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.

The following link will give you dimensions to most modern vans
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/search.asp


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:36:57 GMT, "Air Rider" wrote:

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.

I think that's about right. Nevertheless, I still think they are too
cumbersome for everyday driving. Perhaps its the width and/or the
height of the seats or something. I've hired them on occasion.

The following link will give you dimensions to most modern vans
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/search.asp

That's very useful - thank you

K

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Air Rider"
saying something like:

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.

If there's a bulkhead fitted, the SWB Tranny is annoyingly just too
short to get the doors shut on a sheet of 8'x4'. If no bulkhead it can
stand up and poke between the seats.

Apart from that, I found the SWB shr Tranny a gem to own, being bloody
useful for most things and an excellent tug.
--

Dave

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:05:13 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Air Rider"
saying something like:

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.

If there's a bulkhead fitted, the SWB Tranny is annoyingly just too
short to get the doors shut on a sheet of 8'x4'. If no bulkhead it can
stand up and poke between the seats.

Alternatively, you can prolly drive with the back doors open, suitably
adorned wioth red rags, yes?

Apart from that, I found the SWB shr Tranny a gem to own, being bloody
useful for most things

If 'most thinks' includes nipping down to my crowded narrow shopping
street for a packet of tea bags, I'd have to beg to differ.. ;-)

K

In article , "Kat" Katch661
@ydbttvou.com says...
snip
If 'most things' includes nipping down to my crowded narrow shopping
street for a packet of tea bags, I'd have to beg to differ.. ;-)

That's what a bicycle is for :-)

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:04:30 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

In article , "Kat" Katch661
says...
snip
If 'most things' includes nipping down to my crowded narrow shopping
street for a packet of tea bags, I'd have to beg to differ.. ;-)

That's what a bicycle is for :-)

Good point! :-)

K

Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

A builder friend had an old Nissan Vanette (which just died after many
years, 270K miles, an no maintenance unless you count adding diesel!).
You could get full size sheets in that, it was a fair bit smaller than a
transsit, it also had a tiny turning circle. The only limitation I found
was that the seat would not go far enough back to make driving it
comfortable for me, but then again I am taller than most.

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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:29:20 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

A builder friend had an old Nissan Vanette (which just died after many
years, 270K miles, an no maintenance unless you count adding diesel!).
You could get full size sheets in that, it was a fair bit smaller than a
transsit, it also had a tiny turning circle. The only limitation I found
was that the seat would not go far enough back to make driving it
comfortable for me, but then again I am taller than most.

Hi John, Thanks for the suggestion. I was looking at one of those
today, and I must say it looked about right for me, size-wize, except
that it didn't look as though an 8ft sheet of board would fit in the
back. The space only looked about 6ft long. Perhaps your friend's was
a different model though.

K

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:13:55 GMT, (Kat) wrote:


I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

Ive managed quite well so far with my VW Scirocco, cement mixer fit in
just about etc. ;-)

When I ever get to plasterboard I'd go hire a van, less hassle than
buying and insuring one when you won't be using it 90% of the time as
a van?

£40.00 a day for a transit.


Mark S.

Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,

snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just as
big inside.

"Mark" wrote in message
...
Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,

snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just
as
big inside.



I have a swb trannie, 1270kg payload, 8 by 4 sheets with ease, changing room
for canoeing. It has an incredible turning circle, shorter than my other
halfs rover 25. Its economical, comfortable, parts are cheap and readily
available. I have driven many large vans at work and nothing even comes
close to the transit IMHO.


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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:35:18 GMT, "John Woodhall"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
...
Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,

snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just
as
big inside.



I have a swb trannie, 1270kg payload, 8 by 4 sheets with ease, changing room
for canoeing. It has an incredible turning circle, shorter than my other
halfs rover 25. Its economical, comfortable, parts are cheap and readily
available. I have driven many large vans at work and nothing even comes
close to the transit IMHO.

That was Jeremy Clerkson's conclusion too - especially for racing
other makes of similar sized vans around the Top Gear race track,
IIRC!

As it happens, I have a canoe too... I'm thinking of buying a cheap
tranny for the purposes I mentioned, then converting it into a camper
van after the DIY and moving is complete. I did that once before with
a similar van. The lack of windows made it great for sleeping
overnight just about anywhere, rather than paying out for a hotel.
having said that, all-round windows are such a boon when it comes to
driving and parking.

K

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:44:36 GMT, (Kat) strung
together this:

As it happens, I have a canoe too... I'm thinking of buying a cheap
tranny for the purposes I mentioned, then converting it into a camper
van after the DIY and moving is complete. I did that once before with
a similar van. The lack of windows made it great for sleeping
overnight just about anywhere, rather than paying out for a hotel.
having said that, all-round windows are such a boon when it comes to
driving and parking.

I've driven quite a few vans over the years and have never missed
having any rearward visibility apart from side mirrors. If you have
decent spacial awareness then lack of windows isn't a problem.

Slightly oversized for you I know but I drive a Transit Luton quite
often and find that a doddle to reverse and generally manouvre.
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I have a swb trannie, 1270kg payload, 8 by 4 sheets with ease, changing
room
for canoeing. It has an incredible turning circle, shorter than my other
halfs rover 25. Its economical, comfortable, parts are cheap and readily
available. I have driven many large vans at work and nothing even comes
close to the transit IMHO.

Strange. I prefer the Ducato/Boxer/Relay. Both the Trannie and Ducato are
nice to drive, but the Ducato has the dash mounted gear stick and right hand
mounted handbrake. The former is great for being lazy, the gear knob being
no more than 10cm from the steering wheel. The latter is great when carrying
passengers and they don't mangle themselves into the centrally mounted
controls.

Christian.

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:16:55 -0000, "Christian McArdle"
strung together this:

Strange. I prefer the Ducato/Boxer/Relay. Both the Trannie and Ducato are
nice to drive, but the Ducato has the dash mounted gear stick and right hand
mounted handbrake. The former is great for being lazy, the gear knob being
no more than 10cm from the steering wheel. The latter is great when carrying
passengers and they don't mangle themselves into the centrally mounted
controls.

I used to have a 2000 W SWB Boxer 1.9D and I thought it was in
general, crap. It spent more time in the garage under warranty than it
did on my drive and everything is backwards, and cheap plasticy type
crappy flimsy. I sold it at 43,000 miles. Don't know what the new ones
are like but I had an 02 reg Partner 2.0 HDi after that and that
started to fall to pieces pretty quickly. To be fair I had it for 15
months ish and did 52,000 miles in it, after buying it with 9,000 on
the clock. I don't think it should have had to have two new
alternators, new crankshaft pulleys, bearings etc. eveery 20,000 miles
as it seemed to, but it does though.

In summary, Peugot are crap, I wouldn't be overly keen on getting
another.
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I don't think it should have had to have two new alternators, new
crankshaft pulleys, bearings etc. eveery 20,000 miles as it
seemed to, but it does though.

A very different experience to mine, then! My first was a 1995/M (Boxer). It
did just short of 200,000 miles before some joyriders rammed it at 30mph in
reverse. I sold it to a friend of a friend (a mobile mechanic who had just
had his van and tools nicked) who has pulled out the damage and it is still
on the road, presumably at well over 200,000 miles now. Very few signs of
rust, given the age and mileage, too. My second is a 2000/X (Ducato) on
around 50,000.

I haven't had any serious mechanical trouble from either. The older one did
require a new heater matrix, but apart from that, it is just brake pads,
tyres and batteries I've changed on either of them.

Of course, they aren't really Peugeots, they're Fiats with a Peugeot
drivetrain. The engine chosen (the 1.9 XUD) is the one that seems to be in
about 50% of diesel engine cars of the period.

Christian.





"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:16:55 -0000, "Christian McArdle"
strung together this:

Strange. I prefer the Ducato/Boxer/Relay. Both the Trannie and Ducato are
nice to drive, but the Ducato has the dash mounted gear stick and right
hand
mounted handbrake. The former is great for being lazy, the gear knob
being
no more than 10cm from the steering wheel. The latter is great when
carrying
passengers and they don't mangle themselves into the centrally mounted
controls.

I used to have a 2000 W SWB Boxer 1.9D and I thought it was in
general, crap. It spent more time in the garage under warranty than it
did on my drive and everything is backwards, and cheap plasticy type
crappy flimsy. I sold it at 43,000 miles. Don't know what the new ones
are like but I had an 02 reg Partner 2.0 HDi after that and that
started to fall to pieces pretty quickly. To be fair I had it for 15
months ish and did 52,000 miles in it, after buying it with 9,000 on
the clock. I don't think it should have had to have two new
alternators, new crankshaft pulleys, bearings etc. eveery 20,000 miles
as it seemed to, but it does though.

In summary, Peugot are crap, I wouldn't be overly keen on getting
another.
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"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Personally, I would choose the car I need, have a tow hook fitted on it, and
either hire a trailer when I needed one or, if the use justified it, buy
one.

For example, the Ifor Williams BV5 will take 2400 x 1200 mm sheets flat
inside

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv5.htm

or the BV4 will take them standing on edge

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv4.htm

I used one of the latter to take furniture the length of France a couple of
years ago.

My local Ifor Williams dealer hires out trailers and I would be surprised if
others did not do so as well.

Colin Bignell

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:15:18 -0000, "nightjar"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Personally, I would choose the car I need, have a tow hook fitted on it, and
either hire a trailer when I needed one or, if the use justified it, buy
one.

For example, the Ifor Williams BV5 will take 2400 x 1200 mm sheets flat
inside

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv5.htm

or the BV4 will take them standing on edge

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv4.htm

I used one of the latter to take furniture the length of France a couple of
years ago.

My local Ifor Williams dealer hires out trailers and I would be surprised if
others did not do so as well.

Hi Colin, Thanks for this excellent suggestion. I've never seen
trailers for hire in my area but I'd venture to guess that If I look
hard enough, I'll find some. It might even make sense for me to buy
one, since those horse-box type trailers seem like quite a secure form
of lockable storage which might be very useful when I come to move
house.

Thanks again

K