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Kat December 26th 04 05:13 PM

Smallest vans that can carry 8' x 4' sheets of MDF/plasterboard inside?
 

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

:::Jerry:::: December 26th 04 05:19 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?


Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).


It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


Well, seeing that the Ford Transit in it's SWB version has been the day-faco
standard that all other van maker has tried to equal in the class...

Why does it need to be smaller than a Transit, if I may ask ?



Dave Jones December 26th 04 05:50 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van? If you have enough storage space
you can order it all in one hit.

Also check with your insurance company wether you can get insurance on a
medium size van using your no claims off your car.



Air Rider December 26th 04 06:36 PM

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.

The following link will give you dimensions to most modern vans
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/search.asp


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K




Kat December 26th 04 08:07 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van? If you have enough storage space
you can order it all in one hit.

Also check with your insurance company wether you can get insurance on a
medium size van using your no claims off your car.


Good suggestions, worth considering! Thank you...

K


Kat December 26th 04 08:17 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:36:57 GMT, "Air Rider" wrote:

I'm pretty sure (as my mate has one) that the swb trannie is the same length
as a normal car. My mate couldn't have anything bigger, otherwise there
wouldn't be any parking spaces big enough outside his terraced house.


I think that's about right. Nevertheless, I still think they are too
cumbersome for everyday driving. Perhaps its the width and/or the
height of the seats or something. I've hired them on occasion.

The following link will give you dimensions to most modern vans
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/search.asp


That's very useful - thank you

K

Kat December 26th 04 08:25 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).


Didn't know that - thanks. Hopwever, I don't plan to carry much weight
at once. Having said that, I guess ten sheets of 12mm plasterboard
must weigh quite a bit...

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


Well, seeing that the Ford Transit in it's SWB version has been the day-faco
standard that all other van maker has tried to equal in the class...

Why does it need to be smaller than a Transit, if I may ask ?


Because it'll be my only transport for several months so I'll be using
it for nipping up to the shops in the built-up area where I live, and
zipping off on 30 mile trips in (hopefully) reasonably relaxed
comfort. I dread driving transits unless I really have to. I find
them so cumbersome. I'd like something narrower, like Hi Ace perhaps -
though I've never driven one, they look like they might be more
manoeverable than a transit.

Cheers,
K


Kat December 26th 04 08:31 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?


Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.

Cheers,

K


:::Jerry:::: December 26th 04 09:07 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...
snip
comfort. I dread driving transits unless I really have to. I find
them so cumbersome. I'd like something narrower, like Hi Ace perhaps -
though I've never driven one, they look like they might be more
manoeverable than a transit.


Hm, forward control, not nice if your not used to it or confident...
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:::Jerry:::: December 26th 04 09:10 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so

why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?


Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.


Well, unless you either don't have a sofa (or sofa sized stuff) or go for a
pick-up, something smaller than a Transit sized van will be more trouble
than it's worth in the removals dept.
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John Rumm December 26th 04 09:29 PM

Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


A builder friend had an old Nissan Vanette (which just died after many
years, 270K miles, an no maintenance unless you count adding diesel!).
You could get full size sheets in that, it was a fair bit smaller than a
transsit, it also had a tiny turning circle. The only limitation I found
was that the seat would not go far enough back to make driving it
comfortable for me, but then again I am taller than most.

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Kat December 26th 04 11:19 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:10:11 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so

why go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?

Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.


Well, unless you either don't have a sofa (or sofa sized stuff) or go for a
pick-up, something smaller than a Transit sized van will be more trouble
than it's worth in the removals dept.


Good point - thanks; but I have avoided sofas, and beds that can't be
dismantled or folded. What you said about forward controls in the Hi
Ace is a good point though. I have to admit I've never driven one, but
the lack of substance between me and the hypothetical concrete lamp
post I drive into is a bit unsettling... ;-)

K


Kat December 26th 04 11:23 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:29:20 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


A builder friend had an old Nissan Vanette (which just died after many
years, 270K miles, an no maintenance unless you count adding diesel!).
You could get full size sheets in that, it was a fair bit smaller than a
transsit, it also had a tiny turning circle. The only limitation I found
was that the seat would not go far enough back to make driving it
comfortable for me, but then again I am taller than most.


Hi John, Thanks for the suggestion. I was looking at one of those
today, and I must say it looked about right for me, size-wize, except
that it didn't look as though an 8ft sheet of board would fit in the
back. The space only looked about 6ft long. Perhaps your friend's was
a different model though.

K

Mark S. December 26th 04 11:58 PM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:13:55 GMT, (Kat) wrote:


I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K


Ive managed quite well so far with my VW Scirocco, cement mixer fit in
just about etc. ;-)

When I ever get to plasterboard I'd go hire a van, less hassle than
buying and insuring one when you won't be using it 90% of the time as
a van?

£40.00 a day for a transit.


Mark S.


Mark December 27th 04 12:29 AM

Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,


snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just as
big inside.



John Woodhall December 27th 04 01:35 AM


"Mark" wrote in message
...
Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,


snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just
as
big inside.



I have a swb trannie, 1270kg payload, 8 by 4 sheets with ease, changing room
for canoeing. It has an incredible turning circle, shorter than my other
halfs rover 25. Its economical, comfortable, parts are cheap and readily
available. I have driven many large vans at work and nothing even comes
close to the transit IMHO.


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Anna Kettle December 27th 04 07:32 AM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).


My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said
:)

Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc

Anna


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nightjar December 27th 04 08:15 AM


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


Personally, I would choose the car I need, have a tow hook fitted on it, and
either hire a trailer when I needed one or, if the use justified it, buy
one.

For example, the Ifor Williams BV5 will take 2400 x 1200 mm sheets flat
inside

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv5.htm

or the BV4 will take them standing on edge

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv4.htm

I used one of the latter to take furniture the length of France a couple of
years ago.

My local Ifor Williams dealer hires out trailers and I would be surprised if
others did not do so as well.

Colin Bignell



Dave Plowman (News) December 27th 04 10:38 AM

In article ,
Kat wrote:
I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?


Before you go ahead, check up on the insurance situation.

It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.

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The Natural Philosopher December 27th 04 10:51 AM

Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K

Its a transit, a pickup or a trailer.

Take yer pick.

Frankly, I use a Land Rover, because the builders merchant delivers the
big stuff.


Dave Jones December 27th 04 12:12 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:50:54 -0000, "Dave Jones"
wrote:


Most builders merchants will deliver, some will charge some won't, so why
go
to the expense of getting a big enough van?


Apart from fetching building materials, I'll need it when I move
house. I envisage shifting my stuff in dribs and drabs rather than in
one shipload via a removal co.

Cheers,

K

Well you could hire a box van for that, around £70 per day here



Owain December 27th 04 01:17 PM

"Kat" wrote
| ... the lack of substance between me and the hypothetical
| concrete lamp post I drive into is a bit unsettling... ;-)

Reassure yourself with the thought that hypothetical lamp posts only cause
hypothetical injuries :-)

Owain



Kat December 27th 04 01:44 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:35:18 GMT, "John Woodhall"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
...
Kat typed:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard,

snip
I got tired of using a van years ago.
(Although I still have a Leyland 3ton for really big stuff :-) )
Now use a Volvo 940 estate cheaper to buy/insure/run than a van and just
as
big inside.



I have a swb trannie, 1270kg payload, 8 by 4 sheets with ease, changing room
for canoeing. It has an incredible turning circle, shorter than my other
halfs rover 25. Its economical, comfortable, parts are cheap and readily
available. I have driven many large vans at work and nothing even comes
close to the transit IMHO.


That was Jeremy Clerkson's conclusion too - especially for racing
other makes of similar sized vans around the Top Gear race track,
IIRC!

As it happens, I have a canoe too... I'm thinking of buying a cheap
tranny for the purposes I mentioned, then converting it into a camper
van after the DIY and moving is complete. I did that once before with
a similar van. The lack of windows made it great for sleeping
overnight just about anywhere, rather than paying out for a hotel.
having said that, all-round windows are such a boon when it comes to
driving and parking.

K

Kat December 27th 04 01:51 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:15:18 -0000, "nightjar"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?

It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...


Personally, I would choose the car I need, have a tow hook fitted on it, and
either hire a trailer when I needed one or, if the use justified it, buy
one.

For example, the Ifor Williams BV5 will take 2400 x 1200 mm sheets flat
inside

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv5.htm

or the BV4 will take them standing on edge

http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv4.htm

I used one of the latter to take furniture the length of France a couple of
years ago.

My local Ifor Williams dealer hires out trailers and I would be surprised if
others did not do so as well.


Hi Colin, Thanks for this excellent suggestion. I've never seen
trailers for hire in my area but I'd venture to guess that If I look
hard enough, I'll find some. It might even make sense for me to buy
one, since those horse-box type trailers seem like quite a secure form
of lockable storage which might be very useful when I come to move
house.

Thanks again

K




Kat December 27th 04 01:52 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:38:58 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Kat wrote:
I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?


Before you go ahead, check up on the insurance situation.

It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?

K


:::Jerry:::: December 27th 04 01:57 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:38:58 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

snip
It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?


They are just about the largest (load wise) estate car available outside the
USA, that's why !

But be warned, they are looooong....
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Broadback December 27th 04 02:23 PM

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?
It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K



I went for a trailer, and never regretted it, easy to load and unload,
ideal for those numerous trips to the local tip, where in most cases
high vehicles are prohibited. I bought mine from a local one man
manufacturer, he will make them to your specification, though that is
Stoke on Trent I would imagine there is one in most areas. A little
thought and some strong polythene will cover you good in transit.

Dave Plowman (News) December 27th 04 02:29 PM

In article ,
Kat wrote:
Before you go ahead, check up on the insurance situation.

It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?


They tend to be pretty well engineered vehicles - although maybe not the
most exciting to drive. So older ones can still be found in serviceable
condition. Other similar large estates - like say Ford used to make - are
getting rare.

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Mike Harrison December 27th 04 02:57 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:23:06 +0000, Broadback wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?
It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K



I went for a trailer, and never regretted it, easy to load and unload,
ideal for those numerous trips to the local tip, where in most cases
high vehicles are prohibited. I bought mine from a local one man
manufacturer, he will make them to your specification, though that is
Stoke on Trent I would imagine there is one in most areas. A little
thought and some strong polythene will cover you good in transit.


That's an important consideration - many tips nowadays have height limits, but I vaguelly recollect
seeing one that also banned trailers....

As you will presumably only occasionally need the full 8x4' capacity, how about an estate car with a
roofrack ?




Sam December 27th 04 03:38 PM


":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"Kat" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:38:58 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

snip
It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?


They are just about the largest (load wise) estate car available outside
the
USA, that's why !

But be warned, they are looooong....
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Our 740 - sadly now laid up in the workshop with a knackered transmission -
would take a hell of a lot but not an 8X4 sheet, well not flat anyway. The
bed is about 6 feet long with the seats down but only about 43 inches across
between the wheel arches. Maybe you could get some in at an angle but I
recall there was some sort of problem with that so we always borrowed a car
and trailer or had the sheets cut to fit. The height of the load area is
disappointing in my opinion. The 940 has the same dimensions I believe.

An estate that has a bigger load area is the Citroen XM or I presume the
newer C5, but after having an older XM and from what I've heard about the
reliability of the C5 I'm not sure I'd recommend them.

As to the length of the Volvo I never found it a problem at all. I think the
reason it's not a problem is the really good turning circle, you can get in
and out of tight parking spaces with ease. A lot easier I found than with
our much smaller Saab 900. Best thing about the Volvo was the way traffic in
your path seemed to part in terror upon seeing you approach - even BMW
drivers :-)

Sam



Kat December 27th 04 04:15 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:57:28 GMT, Mike Harrison
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:23:06 +0000, Broadback wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Kat wrote:

I'm looking for a van for use when I renovate my house, then move out.
I want something small as possible (because it will be my only vehicle
for a while) However, it must be big enough to carry 4' x 8' sheets of
plasterboard, MDF etc inside. Anyone suggest some models?
Toyota Hi-ace? Nissan Vanette? Others?
It's got to be smaller than a Ford Transit; that's for sure. Toyota
Lite-Ace would be nice but I guess they are too short to fit 8' x 4'
sheets in...

Many thanks and happy boxing day..

K


I went for a trailer, and never regretted it, easy to load and unload,
ideal for those numerous trips to the local tip, where in most cases
high vehicles are prohibited. I bought mine from a local one man
manufacturer, he will make them to your specification, though that is
Stoke on Trent I would imagine there is one in most areas. A little
thought and some strong polythene will cover you good in transit.


That's an important consideration - many tips nowadays have height limits, but I vaguelly recollect
seeing one that also banned trailers....

As you will presumably only occasionally need the full 8x4' capacity, how about an estate car with a
roofrack ?


That may be the answer. Thanks. Anyone recommend an estate car that
accelerates fast, is reliable, cheap to run, comfortable, handles well
on corners and in crosswinds, has a good bit of carrying space, and
doesn't go rusty around the sills? I don't want much eh? ;-)

K


Morten December 27th 04 05:21 PM


"Kat" wrote in message
...

That may be the answer. Thanks. Anyone recommend an estate car that
accelerates fast, is reliable, cheap to run, comfortable, handles well
on corners and in crosswinds, has a good bit of carrying space, and
doesn't go rusty around the sills? I don't want much eh? ;-)


Volvo V70 R :-)

/Morten


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Kat December 27th 04 06:02 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:21:38 -0000, "Morten"
wrote:


"Kat" wrote in message
...

That may be the answer. Thanks. Anyone recommend an estate car that
accelerates fast, is reliable, cheap to run, comfortable, handles well
on corners and in crosswinds, has a good bit of carrying space, and
doesn't go rusty around the sills? I don't want much eh? ;-)


Volvo V70 R :-)

/Morten


Thanks for the suggestion. I took a look at a pic and the specs...
looks good... nice 2.3 engine too...

K

Kat December 27th 04 06:33 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:32:17 GMT, (Anna Kettle)
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:19:38 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Remember the smaller the vehicle the less weight you will be able to carry
(legally).


My van is a Vauxhall Combo which is a boxy car derived van and it can
carry a ton(ne?) and a half cos it is the version with improved
suspension, so size isn't everything. At least that is what my ex said
:)

Its too small for 8*4 sheets and three seater sofas but its fine for
dribs and drabs house move and for cement mixers. Ford stopped making
the Escort van a while ago and I guess that is cos builders have
discovered that the boxy shape vans are much easier to get stuff in
and out of than are estate car derived ones

Being car derived (the Corsa) its easy to drive and its cheap to run
too. I suggest you look at Combo or other manufacturers equivalent
Renault Trafic etc


Yes; it's certainly an option. I have owned an Escort Van and hired an
Astra van on occasion. Nice and small for parking but not as much room
as say a Hi-Ace or Vanette with about the same overall length.
Cheers,

K

Kat December 27th 04 07:54 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:29:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Kat wrote:
Before you go ahead, check up on the insurance situation.

It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?


They tend to be pretty well engineered vehicles - although maybe not the
most exciting to drive. So older ones can still be found in serviceable
condition.


What is the usual thing that eventually consigns them to the scrap
yard?

On all the cars I've had, (British and Japanese) , it's been body rust
- especially the sills - (even though the engines still had about 200K
miles of life left in them)! How are the 10-15 year old Volvos with
regards rust problems? I once drove a 740 when they first came out in
the 80s, and was quite impressed.

K

John Rumm December 27th 04 09:54 PM

Kat wrote:

On all the cars I've had, (British and Japanese) , it's been body rust
- especially the sills - (even though the engines still had about 200K
miles of life left in them)! How are the 10-15 year old Volvos with
regards rust problems? I once drove a 740 when they first came out in
the 80s, and was quite impressed.


Something like a 10 year old Subaru Legacy estate is a similar size and
will go forever. Not as easy to find, spares cost a bit more but you
won't need em often! (They had corrosion licked by the time they
produced the Legacy - especially '92 onward). If you get and estate with
the built in roof rails and stick a decent set of roof bars on them it
would carry 100kg+ on the roof.


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John Rumm December 27th 04 10:05 PM

Kat wrote:

That may be the answer. Thanks. Anyone recommend an estate car that
accelerates fast, is reliable, cheap to run, comfortable, handles well
on corners and in crosswinds, has a good bit of carrying space, and
doesn't go rusty around the sills? I don't want much eh? ;-)


If you can find one, the estate version of what I have ;-)

Subaru Legacy 2.0 4 CAM Turbo. There were only a few hundred official UK
spec models ever built (they had to sell 5000 world wide, to qualify it
for entry into the rallies), but a good proportion of them are atill about.

Does all you require, alothough a little fond of the jungle juice if you
get too keen with the right foot! Unassuming shape, permenant four wheel
drive with viscous coupling diffs, and Sierra Cosworth style
performance. Basically it has a break, clutch, and a smile pedal!

(Grey imports of newer versions are more easily available including the
twin turbo version, but that will cost you more in insurance).

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Dave December 28th 04 12:11 AM


"John Rumm" wrote in message
...

Something like a 10 year old Subaru Legacy estate is a similar size and
will go forever. Not as easy to find, spares cost a bit more but you
won't need em often! (They had corrosion licked by the time they
produced the Legacy - especially '92 onward). If you get and estate with
the built in roof rails and stick a decent set of roof bars on them it
would carry 100kg+ on the roof.


I was wondering why the roof rack had not been mentioned yet.

I had a tiny Rover Metro, years ago and carried all sorts on its roof
(within the limits of course)
4 by 8 sheets were a doddle.

Ladder bars are very low cost items for older cars.

Dave



Rob Morley December 28th 04 12:20 AM

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
says...
In article ,
Kat wrote:
Before you go ahead, check up on the insurance situation.

It might be cheaper to get a big old Volvo estate.


It might, indeed. Thanks. Especially one with a tow bar... But why a
Volvo, in particular?


They tend to be pretty well engineered vehicles - although maybe not the
most exciting to drive. So older ones can still be found in serviceable
condition. Other similar large estates - like say Ford used to make - are
getting rare.

Scary prices for Volvo spare parts though, from what I remember.

Sam December 28th 04 12:42 AM


most exciting to drive. So older ones can still be found in serviceable
condition. Other similar large estates - like say Ford used to make - are
getting rare.

Scary prices for Volvo spare parts though, from what I remember.


No get them from people like http://www.eurocarparts.com/ or my current
favourite http://www.gsfcarparts.com/ coz they have just opened a local
branch. Any other difficult bits get them from the local scrappy. Course if
you have to go to a main street dealer they will rip you for parts - course
you will know they're not really cheap will you :-)

Sam




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