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David W.E. Roberts
 
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Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.

However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast.

I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm.

10' by 1.5" pole - £15
20' by 2" pole - £34

The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again
this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece
of kit.

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?

TIA

Dave R

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tony sayer
 
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Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.

However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast.

I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm.

10' by 1.5" pole - £15
20' by 2" pole - £34


Yes a bit pricey, around a quid a foot is nearer the mark.

The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again
this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece
of kit.

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?


Metal suppliers but these usually will be more expensive. Perhaps the 10
by 1.5 may be the best option. Make sure to use a suitable rigging kit
and get a good aerial Triax or Thelves or Antiference, avoid Maxview,
never been impressed with them;(
TIA

Dave R


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Roger
 
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For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or galvanised
tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources?

Surprisingly I don't see any advertised on the satellite d-i-y sites,
- perhaps I've just missed them?

Roger









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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:50:31 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
strung together this:

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk have aerials and masts etc... I've had a
couple of aerials and equipment from them in the past when I haven't
been able to get to my usual trade outlet and haven't had a problem.
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers

:-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.

However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast.

I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm.

10' by 1.5" pole - £15
20' by 2" pole - £34

The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again
this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece
of kit.

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?

TIA

Dave R

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Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.

Cic.




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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers

:-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.

However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast.

I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm.

10' by 1.5" pole - £15
20' by 2" pole - £34

The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again
this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece
of kit.

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?

TIA

Dave R

================
Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.

Cic.



Yes but there quite expensive, well round here they are, as we
occasionally need them.

Yep ally;( you don't want to pick a fight with a scaffolder;(...
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"Roger" wrote in message
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For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or galvanised
tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources?


Subsequently thought that one of those subsurban sidestreet modern lamp
posts, the rolled steel type -without the top- would be ideal.
Knowing how cash strapped local authorities are these must be made down to
a low price. Anyone know of suppliers and cost.
Probably more than I thought!!

Roger



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Cicero wrote:

Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter.


Not quite - ali scaff tube is actually 1-29/32 in. dia. by 7 swg wall
thickness (48.3 x 4.47 mm in new money). The reasons for this odd size
are doubtless historical - but if anyone out there knows why, it would
be interesting to share the secret.

"2 inch aerial masting" usually is a genuine 2 in. dia by 16 swg wall,
but I have also come across 48.3mm x 16 swg, so caveat emptor.

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Roger wrote:
"Roger" wrote in message
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For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or
galvanised tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources?


Subsequently thought that one of those subsurban sidestreet modern
lamp posts, the rolled steel type -without the top- would be ideal.
Knowing how cash strapped local authorities are these must be made
down to a low price. Anyone know of suppliers and cost.
Probably more than I thought!!


It's not so much the council you want but the sub-contractor who actually
does the legwork for them (round here it's Harlite). They'll have a yard
full of mangled ones that are basically only good for scrap and might let
one go for a lot less than a brand spanking new one.

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Cicero wrote:
Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.


They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which
ally scaffolding usually isn't.

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In message , Cicero
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Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.


I was about to say the same, also if you can manage it there are more
solid ways of fixing the pole to the brick work than a lashing kit.

http://www.skymasts.com/prodindex/ca...ccessories.pdf

CWB15 (pair) will hold a 2" pole for years without a problem and only
require one M10 rawlbolt each to fix to the brick.

Skymasts will also supply 2" thick walled aluminium tube cut to length.

The advantage of this is that 10 years down the line your pole and
fixings are just as good as the day you fitted them and not beginning to
rust or fall down! Just make sure you get a good mechanically sound
aerial and coax to go with it.


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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article ,
Cicero wrote:
Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.


They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which
ally scaffolding usually isn't.


Don't rust though!



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In message , David W.E. Roberts
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Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.



If you want to see how not to do it take a look here,
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgalleryview.html
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:

Hi,

drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-)

About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney.

I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should
have safe access.

I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my
components over the Internet.

However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast.

I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm.

10' by 1.5" pole - £15
20' by 2" pole - £34

The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again
this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece
of kit.

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?


use a bit of scaffolding pole.


TIA

Dave R

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Cicero wrote:
Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your
scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel.


They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which
ally scaffolding usually isn't.


Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've seen
quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V" bolt
fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting this..
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"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:50:31 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
strung together this:

Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to
length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk have aerials and masts etc... I've had a
couple of aerials and equipment from them in the past when I haven't
been able to get to my usual trade outlet and haven't had a problem.


Unfortunately the 12' mast from TLC is one of the ones they won't ship - you
have to collect it or arrange your own carrier.


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Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've seen
quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V" bolt
fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting this..


People forget wind loading on big arrays and also vibration.

Dave

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Dave Stanton wrote:
Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've
seen quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V"
bolt fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting
this..


People forget wind loading on big arrays and also vibration.


Of course it will depend on the loading.

However, I'd be worried about using something too strong with a large
array on the usual chimney stack mounting. Something has to give under
storm conditions. I'd rather it was the aerial pole than the chimney
itself.

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