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Hi,
drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast. I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm. 10' by 1.5" pole - £15 20' by 2" pole - £34 The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece of kit. Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? TIA Dave R -- |
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In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes Hi, drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast. I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm. 10' by 1.5" pole - £15 20' by 2" pole - £34 Yes a bit pricey, around a quid a foot is nearer the mark. The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece of kit. Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? Metal suppliers but these usually will be more expensive. Perhaps the 10 by 1.5 may be the best option. Make sure to use a suitable rigging kit and get a good aerial Triax or Thelves or Antiference, avoid Maxview, never been impressed with them;( TIA Dave R -- Tony Sayer |
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For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or galvanised
tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources? Surprisingly I don't see any advertised on the satellite d-i-y sites, - perhaps I've just missed them? Roger |
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:50:31 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
strung together this: Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk have aerials and masts etc... I've had a couple of aerials and equipment from them in the past when I haven't been able to get to my usual trade outlet and haven't had a problem. -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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![]() "David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ... Hi, drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast. I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm. 10' by 1.5" pole - £15 20' by 2" pole - £34 The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece of kit. Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? TIA Dave R ================ Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. Cic. |
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In article , Cicero
writes "David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ... Hi, drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast. I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm. 10' by 1.5" pole - £15 20' by 2" pole - £34 The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece of kit. Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? TIA Dave R ================ Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. Cic. Yes but there quite expensive, well round here they are, as we occasionally need them. Yep ally;( you don't want to pick a fight with a scaffolder;(... -- Tony Sayer |
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![]() "Roger" wrote in message ... For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or galvanised tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources? Subsequently thought that one of those subsurban sidestreet modern lamp posts, the rolled steel type -without the top- would be ideal. Knowing how cash strapped local authorities are these must be made down to a low price. Anyone know of suppliers and cost. Probably more than I thought!! Roger |
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Cicero wrote:
Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Not quite - ali scaff tube is actually 1-29/32 in. dia. by 7 swg wall thickness (48.3 x 4.47 mm in new money). The reasons for this odd size are doubtless historical - but if anyone out there knows why, it would be interesting to share the secret. "2 inch aerial masting" usually is a genuine 2 in. dia by 16 swg wall, but I have also come across 48.3mm x 16 swg, so caveat emptor. -- Andy |
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Roger wrote:
"Roger" wrote in message ... For a ground level site I'm looking for a 3 inch diam alloy or galvanised tube to mount a 1 m satellite dish. Any known sources? Subsequently thought that one of those subsurban sidestreet modern lamp posts, the rolled steel type -without the top- would be ideal. Knowing how cash strapped local authorities are these must be made down to a low price. Anyone know of suppliers and cost. Probably more than I thought!! It's not so much the council you want but the sub-contractor who actually does the legwork for them (round here it's Harlite). They'll have a yard full of mangled ones that are basically only good for scrap and might let one go for a lot less than a brand spanking new one. -- James... www.jameshart.co.uk |
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Cicero wrote: Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which ally scaffolding usually isn't. -- *I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore I am perfect* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Cicero
writes Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. I was about to say the same, also if you can manage it there are more solid ways of fixing the pole to the brick work than a lashing kit. http://www.skymasts.com/prodindex/ca...ccessories.pdf CWB15 (pair) will hold a 2" pole for years without a problem and only require one M10 rawlbolt each to fix to the brick. Skymasts will also supply 2" thick walled aluminium tube cut to length. The advantage of this is that 10 years down the line your pole and fixings are just as good as the day you fitted them and not beginning to rust or fall down! Just make sure you get a good mechanically sound aerial and coax to go with it. -- Bill |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes In article , Cicero wrote: Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which ally scaffolding usually isn't. Don't rust though! -- Bill |
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In message , David W.E. Roberts
writes Hi, drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. If you want to see how not to do it take a look here, http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgalleryview.html -- Bill |
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Hi, drifted over from uk.tech.digital-tv back to the more generalised DIYers :-) About to fit a new TV aerial to a chimney. I have scaffolding erected (also doing other work to chimney) so I should have safe access. I am (as usual) working my way around Screwfix et. al. to source my components over the Internet. However nobody seems keen to post me a 12' pole to use as a TV mast. I have got the following prices from a local aerial firm. 10' by 1.5" pole - £15 20' by 2" pole - £34 The 20' price seems a little steep for just an alloy tube, but then again this is a larger diameter than sink waste pipes so is a pretty hefty piece of kit. Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? use a bit of scaffolding pole. TIA Dave R |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes In article , Cicero wrote: Scaffolding tubes are usually 2" diameter. Buy a length from your scaffolder, but make sure you get aluminium rather than steel. They're *way* over strong for aerial use. Unless at a good price. Which ally scaffolding usually isn't. Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've seen quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V" bolt fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting this.. -- Tony Sayer |
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![]() "Lurch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:50:31 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts" strung together this: Any suggestions for alternative sources of 2" alloy pipe (perhaps cut to length) where you may not be charged a premium because it is a TV mast? http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk have aerials and masts etc... I've had a couple of aerials and equipment from them in the past when I haven't been able to get to my usual trade outlet and haven't had a problem. Unfortunately the 12' mast from TLC is one of the ones they won't ship - you have to collect it or arrange your own carrier. |
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![]() Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've seen quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V" bolt fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting this.. People forget wind loading on big arrays and also vibration. Dave -- Some people use windows, others have a life. |
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Dave Stanton wrote: Beg to differ Dave. A 20 foot pole with a goodly load thereon, I've seen quite a few of they "fracture" at the top "U" or more like "V" bolt fixing. The thicker scaffold pole is far better at resisting this.. People forget wind loading on big arrays and also vibration. Of course it will depend on the loading. However, I'd be worried about using something too strong with a large array on the usual chimney stack mounting. Something has to give under storm conditions. I'd rather it was the aerial pole than the chimney itself. -- *I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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