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The ladder industry
Is it going to go out of business?
Mary |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 20:20:59 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: Is it going to go out of business? Mary Not when you can climb the ladder to success. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Mary no it keeps climbing up the FTSE |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Too many health and safety issues :-) I noticed ladders in the USA have a sticker on every step. I assume it's some sort of H&S warning so I didn't read it. |
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In message , Mary
Fisher wrote Is it going to go out of business? Aluminium step ladders are in the list of goods that determine the retail price index. As we buy them every week in our shopping the Government must be confident that sales are going up. -- Alan |
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In message , Mike
wrote "Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net... Is it going to go out of business? Too many health and safety issues :-) I noticed ladders in the USA have a sticker on every step. I assume it's some sort of H&S warning so I didn't read it. Do you mean the sticker that says do not lean this ladder against overhead power cables  -- Alan |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in news:41b0caa7$0$2652
: Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. |
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"marcb" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in news:41b0caa7$0$2652 : Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Mary |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 20:20:59 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
strung together this: Is it going to go out of business? Mary Well, it's a downhill process from here to the old folks home.... -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Nah. It comes too naturally to us all to count as deliberate :-) So what triggered the question in the first place ? |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Mary They are taking their case to a higher court though. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 01/12/04 |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:ab335b403611ce871a2a034883f0ffe4.45219@mygate .mailgate.org... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:ab335b403611ce871a2a034883f0ffe4.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... I hope this thread doesn't get protracted, if it can't encompass all interests, it might divide us. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Nah. It comes too naturally to us all to count as deliberate :-) So what triggered the question in the first place ? OK, on The Archers Sid was wobbling on a ladder, fixing Ambridge's Christmas lights. I wondered if this was allowed, perhaps he should have scaffolding. The musing continued to its logical conclusion ... Somebody else must have thought about this knock-on effect? Mary |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:ab335b403611ce871a2a034883f0ffe4.45219@myga te.mailgate.org... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... I hope this thread doesn't get protracted, if it can't encompass all interests, it might divide us. You've got the right angle on this. Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message .net... Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Nah. It comes too naturally to us all to count as deliberate :-) So what triggered the question in the first place ? OK, on The Archers Sid was wobbling on a ladder, fixing Ambridge's Christmas lights. I wondered if this was allowed, perhaps he should have scaffolding. The musing continued to its logical conclusion ... Somebody else must have thought about this knock-on effect? Mary I find it soothing to not listen to the Archers. What was that quote 'the problem with capitalism is the unfair spread of happines: The problem with socialism is the equal spread of misery' |
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:16:22 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:ab335b403611ce871a2a034883f0ffe4.45219@myg ate.mailgate.org... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... I hope this thread doesn't get protracted, if it can't encompass all interests, it might divide us. You've got the right angle on this. I'm sure it was a reflex. |
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:43:08 +0000, John Armstrong
wrote: On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:16:22 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote: "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:ab335b403611ce871a2a034883f0ffe4.45219@my gate.mailgate.org... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... I hope this thread doesn't get protracted, if it can't encompass all interests, it might divide us. You've got the right angle on this. I'm sure it was a reflex. This shows all sines of going off at a tangent. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Ok, what's your angle on them? That was a cute reply ... I hope this thread doesn't get protracted, if it can't encompass all interests, it might divide us. You've got the right angle on this. I'm sure it was a reflex. This shows all sines of going off at a tangent. You could have a point* there ... Mary trig point naturally |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... So what triggered the question in the first place ? OK, on The Archers Sid was wobbling on a ladder, fixing Ambridge's Christmas lights. I wondered if this was allowed, perhaps he should have scaffolding. The musing continued to its logical conclusion ... Somebody else must have thought about this knock-on effect? I find it soothing to not listen to the Archers. What's the Archers ? :-) |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... So what triggered the question in the first place ? OK, on The Archers Sid was wobbling on a ladder, fixing Ambridge's Christmas lights. I wondered if this was allowed, perhaps he should have scaffolding. The musing continued to its logical conclusion ... Somebody else must have thought about this knock-on effect? I find it soothing to not listen to the Archers. What's the Archers ? :-) Ohhhhhhh .......... feels faint ......... It would take fifty years to tell you everything ... Just remember about scaffolding and you'll be OK. Mary |
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In message , Mike
wrote What's the Archers ? A patronising radio soap opera for the middle classes used for Countryside Alliance propaganda. -- Alan |
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:33:14 +0000, Alan wrote: In message , Mike wrote What's the Archers ? A patronising radio soap opera Are you by any chance thinking of "The Starchers, an everyday story of laundry folk". ;-) for the middle classes used for Countryside Alliance propaganda. An unbelievably badly written stream of turgid dross, with throw away one line topical/PC references pasted in out of context, at random. DG |
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In message , Alan
writes In message , Mike wrote What's the Archers ? A patronising radio soap opera for the middle classes used for Countryside Alliance propaganda. You're DIMM and I claim my £5 -- geoff |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net...
Is it going to go out of business? Mary Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. NT |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Mike" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Is it going to go out of business? Mary Yes. It's hard to get on the first rung these days. I think you're all being deliberately obtuse! Nah. It comes too naturally to us all to count as deliberate :-) So what triggered the question in the first place ? OK, on The Archers Sid was wobbling on a ladder, fixing Ambridge's Christmas lights. I wondered if this was allowed, perhaps he should have scaffolding. The musing continued to its logical conclusion ... Somebody else must have thought about this knock-on effect? Mary All together now. Rum tee tum, tee tum, tee tum. Rum tee tum, tee ta ta. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 30/11/04 |
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Mike wrote:
What's the Archers ? Something that preceded TV soaps by about 30 years, and listening figures decline each year as the only people left listening to it are those OAP's that are nearing the end of their current life's journey. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" wrote in message . uk... Mike wrote: What's the Archers ? Something that preceded TV soaps by about 30 years, Wrong and listening figures decline each year Wrong as the only people left listening to it are those OAP's that are nearing the end of their current life's journey. Wrong -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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"BigWallop" wrote in message .uk... All together now. Rum tee tum, tee tum, tee tum. Rum tee tum, tee ta ta. My Archers mug which I won at the Royal Show years ago for knowing that Eddie Grundy was banned from the Cat and Fiddle for being sick in the piano says: Dum di dum di dum di dum etc. That's The Definitive Version :-) Mary |
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"N. Thornton" wrote in message Is it going to go out of business? Mary Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. But is it going to be legal to use them? Mary NT |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" wrote in message . uk... Mike wrote: What's the Archers ? Something that preceded TV soaps by about 30 years, Wrong and listening figures decline each year Wrong as the only people left listening to it are those OAP's that are nearing the end of their current life's journey. Wrong Nicely argued! |
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BigWallop wrote:
All together now. Rum tee tum, tee tum, tee tum. Rum tee tum, tee ta ta. IIRC, that is what Billy Connolly suggested should be used as the new national anthem, on the grounds that it is far more cheerful and hence better to march to at Olympic ceremonies, and the words are simple enough that the illegal immigrants could learn them on the bus on the way in! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net...
"N. Thornton" wrote in message Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. But is it going to be legal to use them? Its legal to climb on whatever you want. To answer the real question, yes theyre solid, strong, and as safe as any other ladder - for what thats worth. NT |
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"N. Thornton" wrote in message om... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net... "N. Thornton" wrote in message Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. But is it going to be legal to use them? Its legal to climb on whatever you want. To answer the real question, yes theyre solid, strong, and as safe as any other ladder - for what thats worth. I thought I'd read here - the font of all wisdom - that if you're doing a job over 2 metres (or whatever) you have to use scaffolding. I could be wrong - it has been known :-) Mary NT |
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Mary Fisher wrote: I thought I'd read here - the font of all wisdom - that if you're doing a job over 2 metres (or whatever) you have to use scaffolding. You should use suitable/fit for purpose access equipment, with fall arrest equipment being used for over 2m where suitable. One job recently meant buying a 4m sectional (1m sections) just to get it behind a false wall with no room for any other safety gear possible, another working at 5m high from a ladder at 75 degrees as no room for proper angle, wearing full fall arrest gear. The major building firms are very much going scaffolding/access platfoms/cherry pickers to avoid problems. I inspect all our ladders/step-ladders at work, any with problems are scrapped, nothing below class 1 is acceptable as anyone may borrow and use, from lightweight female students to burly builders with tools.... I have several sets of steps and a 9m sectional ladder as a result, perfectly safe, but not enough load rating being "cheap" domestic ones, several other techs have also gained useful, but not suitable for work sets as well (I like to share things around). Niel. |
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"Badger" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: I thought I'd read here - the font of all wisdom - that if you're doing a job over 2 metres (or whatever) you have to use scaffolding. You should use suitable/fit for purpose access equipment, with fall arrest equipment being used for over 2m where suitable. One job recently meant buying a 4m sectional (1m sections) just to get it behind a false wall with no room for any other safety gear possible, another working at 5m high from a ladder at 75 degrees as no room for proper angle, wearing full fall arrest gear. So are ladder makers going to be looking for new jobs? The major building firms are very much going scaffolding/access platfoms/cherry pickers to avoid problems. What about DIY? I inspect all our ladders/step-ladders at work, any with problems are scrapped, nothing below class 1 is acceptable as anyone may borrow and use, from lightweight female students to burly builders with tools.... I have several sets of steps and a 9m sectional ladder as a result, perfectly safe, but not enough load rating being "cheap" domestic ones, several other techs have also gained useful, but not suitable for work sets as well (I like to share things around). You're apparently a responsible and caring employer. But a (domestic) window cleaner couldn't cart scaffolding or the rest around. I'd be quite happy if some folk weren't allowed to climb a ladder to 'decorate' their houses at this season but that's another matter! Mary Niel. |
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"N. Thornton" wrote in message om... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net... "N. Thornton" wrote in message Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. But is it going to be legal to use them? Its legal to climb on whatever you want. A friend was arrested for climbiug on the Menai suspension bridge. Mind you they waited until he got to the other side before doing so. |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message . net...
"N. Thornton" wrote in message om... Given that one can make a 15' ladder for £10 in parts, 2 hours labour, it makes ya wonder. But is it going to be legal to use them? Its legal to climb on whatever you want. To answer the real question, yes theyre solid, strong, and as safe as any other ladder - for what thats worth. I thought I'd read here - the font of all wisdom - that if you're doing a job over 2 metres (or whatever) you have to use scaffolding. I could be wrong - it has been known :-) If you're sending someone else up there, your access equipment had better meet various assessed and approved standards. But if youre going up it yourself, use what you want. Of course wisdom says make it safe, but the law doesnt say anything. Fred Dibnah would be a famous example of that. Had he paid an employee to go up those chimneys it would have been a whole different matter. NT |
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Its legal to climb on whatever you want.
A friend was arrested for climbiug on the Menai suspension bridge. Mind you they waited until he got to the other side before doing so. now theres newsgroups for you NT |
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