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N. Thornton April 8th 04 02:21 PM

DIY Cooking
 
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT

Seri April 8th 04 02:24 PM

DIY Cooking
 
Drills for coconuts (to get the milk out)

"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
| Hi
|
|
| A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
| where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
| zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
| much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.
|
| Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
| kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
| browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
| frozen foods... any others?
|
|
| Regards, NT



David Hearn April 8th 04 02:40 PM

DIY Cooking
 
N. Thornton wrote:
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


I use my plaster mixer and cordless drill to stirr the porridge in the
mornings. What I hate though are all the crunchy bits I keep finding in it.
My wife thinks that it's posh porridge with added crunchy bits.

D



-= debully =- April 8th 04 02:46 PM

DIY Cooking
 
I sometimes could do with an SDS drill with attatched chisel bit to get
through my wifes steak.


"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT




T i m April 8th 04 03:32 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:46:19 +0100, "-= debully =-"
wrote:

I sometimes could do with an SDS drill with attatched chisel bit to get
through my wifes steak.


;-)

Luckily my Wife think's dinner is something that's delivered on a
moped so I'm safe there!

Talking of SDS again (I darent start another thread ..).

Whilst In B&Q earlier I noticed their SDS drills are now 23.99 or
summat. They were very much different (lighter, smaller) than the
Challenge one I got from Argos some weeks before this 'other' (cheapo)
model came out.

I did notice on the box it mentioned a 'clutch' but no mention of a
rotary stop?

Anyone got one (I think it was one of the 'Proline' models (or
whatever their cheapo line's called))?

All the best ..

T i m

Set Square April 8th 04 03:58 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
N. Thornton wrote:

Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT


A Mole Wrench is wonderful for cracking nuts and for getting the meat out of
crab claws. You can apply a very large force over a controlled distance
without going on and smashing the whole thing to pulp.

It works the other way round to - I use my wife's self-lighting caramelising
blowtorch to light my large plumbing model.

P.S. I hope you wash the fungicidal gunge off your wallpaper roller before
using it on food!
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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Dave Gibson April 8th 04 04:01 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT


I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.



Christian McArdle April 8th 04 04:09 PM

DIY Cooking
 
I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.

Presumably you have to tie the pig down first?

Christian.



dmc April 8th 04 04:21 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.


Presumably you have to tie the pig down first?


Nah. Clamp it in the workmate.

Darren


S Viemeister April 8th 04 05:09 PM

DIY Cooking
 
"N. Thornton" wrote:

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?

Needle-nosed pliers for pulling bones out of fish. A hatchet/small ax for
chopping up bones for stock. Spackle blades for icing, fine paint brushes
for pastry.

Of course, it works the other way, too - muffin tins for sorting small
parts, roasting tins for catching oily drips, old liquidisers/blenders for
mixing garden stuff......

Sheila


Mary Fisher April 8th 04 05:39 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"dmc" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.


Presumably you have to tie the pig down first?


Nah. Clamp it in the workmate.


We couldn't have done that with our 4cwt pig ...

Mary

Darren




Dave Stanton April 8th 04 06:46 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:24:09 +0000, Seri wrote:

Drills for coconuts (to get the milk out)


And bandsaw to cut it up !!.. Only joking folks.

Dave


And you were born knowing all about ms windows....??


Ian Stirling April 8th 04 07:42 PM

DIY Cooking
 
N. Thornton wrote:
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to


Hot-air paintstripper set on hot I find more convenient than the
blowtorch.
Ideal for melting cheese on toast, ...

For cutting up food, I find that 30s-1m in the microwave to warm it up
from -20C to around -1C or so, and maybe start melting bits helps.
This changes the food from totally solid, to slightly flexible, and
makes getting a cutting tool into it possible.

I find my favourite knife in this circumstance is a 1mm thick stainless
carving knife.
Tap gently on tha back with a lump of wood, and it just goes right through.

Andy Hall April 8th 04 07:50 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On 8 Apr 2004 06:21:22 -0700, (N. Thornton) wrote:

Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT



Definitely

The Rothenburger blowtorch for caramelising Cremes Brulee.


Microplane makes some nice tools that equally at home for woodworking
and the kitchen.

www.microplane.com



..andy

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N. Thornton April 8th 04 07:53 PM

DIY Cooking
 
"Set Square" wrote in message ...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
N. Thornton wrote:


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?



A Mole Wrench is wonderful for cracking nuts and for getting the meat out of
crab claws. You can apply a very large force over a controlled distance
without going on and smashing the whole thing to pulp.

It works the other way round to - I use my wife's self-lighting caramelising
blowtorch to light my large plumbing model.

P.S. I hope you wash the fungicidal gunge off your wallpaper roller before
using it on food!



Oh its never seen wallpaper, I got it for cooking. Just seems to be
one more DIY item I use for cookery. Looks like some people thought I
was kidding - funny maybe, but I've used quite a few diy tools on food
:)

I dont know if the roller is dishwasher proof yet, but its cheap
enough that I'm going to try some time. Gad ya compare kitchen
implement prices with DIY, if I get poorer the kitchen will become the
workshop too.


Regards, NT

mike ring April 8th 04 08:05 PM

DIY Cooking
 
"Dave Gibson" wrote in news:5Sddc.31037$Y%6.3835277
@wards.force9.net:


I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.



You are what you eat.....

mike r

Mary Fisher April 8th 04 08:25 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...

if I get poorer the kitchen will become the
workshop too.


It always was here, until I screamed and raged and sulked and ... well I'm
sure you know what I mean.

So was the sitting room (for dismantling the motor bike) and the dining room
(for welding) ... there was nowhere left for me to extract my honey except
the bathroom and to make my candles except the back bedroom ...

Mary


Regards, NT




Mary Fisher April 8th 04 08:26 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
...

I find my favourite knife in this circumstance is a 1mm thick stainless
carving knife.
Tap gently on tha back with a lump of wood, and it just goes right

through.

When you need to take the head off a frozen fish you need a 5lb hammer on
the back of an axe ...

Mary



Rod Hewitt April 8th 04 09:17 PM

DIY Cooking
 
(N. Thornton) wrote in
om:

A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.


The microplanes http://www.microplane.com/ ...

"It started out in 1990, merely as a new type of woodworking tool with
hundreds of tiny stainless steel razors designed to shape or to file wood."

And yes, they do zest lemons extremely speedily.

--
Rod

www.annalaurie.co.uk

John Southern April 8th 04 09:26 PM

DIY Cooking
 
"Dave Gibson" wrote in message ...
"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?


Regards, NT


I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.



Used to be a comedy series on ch4 called "home improvement" in it Tim
Allen presented a spoof show called tool time and they had an episode
about construction site cooking where a plumber made a grilled cheese
sandwich using his blowtorch.
Think its rerun on the Disney channel all the time.

Jon.

Set Square April 8th 04 10:21 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
John Southern wrote:


Used to be a comedy series on ch4 called "home improvement" in it Tim
Allen presented a spoof show called tool time and they had an episode
about construction site cooking where a plumber made a grilled cheese
sandwich using his blowtorch.
Think its rerun on the Disney channel all the time.

Jon.



Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the 1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil (supplied for some part or other of
the steam engine) - would cook a breakfast of bacon and eggs over a roadside
brazier.
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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Mary Fisher April 8th 04 10:31 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Set Square" wrote in message
-




Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the

1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil (supplied for some part or other of
the steam engine) - would cook a breakfast of bacon and eggs over a

roadside
brazier.


My dad did that in the 1940s when he worked at a steel forge.

Mary



Chris J Dixon April 9th 04 07:51 AM

DIY Cooking
 
Set Square wrote:

Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the 1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil (supplied for some part or other of
the steam engine) - would cook a breakfast of bacon and eggs over a roadside
brazier.


Standard railway practice, but the powers that be weren't happy,
and began drilling a few holes in each shovel.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Andy Hall April 9th 04 02:12 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On 9 Apr 2004 09:44:09 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

"Set Square" writes:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
John Southern wrote:


Used to be a comedy series on ch4 called "home improvement" in it Tim
Allen presented a spoof show called tool time and they had an episode
about construction site cooking where a plumber made a grilled cheese
sandwich using his blowtorch.
Think its rerun on the Disney channel all the time.

Jon.



Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the 1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil (supplied for some part or other of
the steam engine) - would cook a breakfast of bacon and eggs over a roadside
brazier.


The shovels provided to steam locomotive crew by GWR reputedly had
holes drilled in them to prevent them being used to cook a fried
breakfast in the firebox.



What a rotten trick.


..andy

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Mary Fisher April 9th 04 03:45 PM

DIY Cooking
 


Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the

1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil


What's 'lard oil'?

Mary




(supplied for some part or other of
the steam engine) - would cook a breakfast of bacon and eggs over a

roadside
brazier.
--
Cheers,
Set Square
______
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Set Square April 9th 04 04:26 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:

Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a
steam roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back
in the 1920's. He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent
new coal shovel for cooking and - using a little lard oil


What's 'lard oil'?

Mary

If you do a Google search on "lard oil", you'll get lots of hits - including
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/lard+oil - and another one about
its use as a lighthouse fuel in California - or yet another which says "Lard
oil is a fixed oil obtained by subjecting lard to heavy pressure without the
application of heat."

The impression I got from my father is that it's an animal-fat-derived oil
which is used as a lubricant - but you can also cook in it without it
poisoning you.
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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Ian Stirling April 9th 04 04:29 PM

DIY Cooking
 
Mary Fisher wrote:


Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the

1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil


What's 'lard oil'?


Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim or other
fine cloth.
The oil that comes out is lard oil.
A very good lubricant.

Andy Hall April 9th 04 04:56 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:29:37 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

Mary Fisher wrote:


Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a steam
roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back in the

1920's.
He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent new coal shovel for
cooking and - using a little lard oil


What's 'lard oil'?


Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim or other


----------------------------------------------------------------------------^

woops.....

I think you meant muslin ??

fine cloth.
The oil that comes out is lard oil.
A very good lubricant.


..andy

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Mary Fisher April 9th 04 05:28 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:

Since we're lapsing into nostalgia, my late father used to drive a
steam roller (i.e. real steam - none of your diesel rubbish!) back
in the 1920's. He told me how the workmen would keep the most recent
new coal shovel for cooking and - using a little lard oil


What's 'lard oil'?

Mary

If you do a Google search on "lard oil", you'll get lots of hits -

including
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/lard+oil - and another one about
its use as a lighthouse fuel in California - or yet another which says

"Lard
oil is a fixed oil obtained by subjecting lard to heavy pressure without

the
application of heat."


Ah - right, thanks. I know what it is now.

The use in California is surprising, I'll have to look into that.

Mary



Mary Fisher April 9th 04 05:29 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?


Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim


I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!

Mary



Ian Stirling April 9th 04 05:56 PM

DIY Cooking
 
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?


Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim


I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!


Oh dear.
Indeed, muslin is indeed the correct word.

Though you can get vegetable based 'lard' if you/they're into that
sort of thing.

Andy Hall April 9th 04 06:18 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:29:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?


Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim


I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!

Mary



I read somewhere that the Israelis were putting quantities of lard on
buses to deter suicide bombers.



..andy

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Andy Minter April 9th 04 06:48 PM

DIY Cooking
 
On 8 Apr 2004 06:21:22 -0700, (N. Thornton) wrote:

Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?

Secateurs for cutting up poultry.

and Medical/Cosmetic
Pincers are good for removing hard skin and electrical side cutters
make excellent naile clippers.

--
Andy Minter

Mary Fisher April 9th 04 08:10 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Andy Hall" wrote in message



I read somewhere that the Israelis were putting quantities of lard on
buses to deter suicide bombers.


Oh?

And where are the Israelis getting lard?

Mary



.andy

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Mary Fisher April 9th 04 08:11 PM

DIY Cooking
 

"Andy Minter" wrote in message
...
On 8 Apr 2004 06:21:22 -0700, (N. Thornton) wrote:

Hi


A wallpaper seam roller makes a decent pastry roller for situations
where the usual big roller wont do. Now I've got a lot of lemons to
zest, and it strikes me that a manual wood rasp would probably do a
much faster job of this than the traditional lemon zester.

Any other examples of DIY tools being good for cookery? I guess some
kind of saw would be good for boned meat, there's the blowtorch for
browning and caramelising, hammer and screwdriver for cutting up
frozen foods... any others?

Secateurs for cutting up poultry.


YES!

I knew there was something else I use :-)

and Medical/Cosmetic
Pincers are good for removing hard skin and electrical side cutters
make excellent naile clippers.


Not as good as the clippers sold for the purpose - if you use them after
well soaking your feet. The side cutters can draw blood - I've seen it but
not on my feet thank goodness.

Mary

--
Andy Minter




bof April 9th 04 08:43 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In message , Dave Gibson
writes
I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.


my keyboard and monitor are now covered in tea

--
bof at bof dot me dot uk

Set Square April 9th 04 09:37 PM

DIY Cooking
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
bof wrote:

In message , Dave Gibson
writes
I use my Electric Power Planer on the pig to make pork scratchings.


my keyboard and monitor are now covered in tea


Well, if you're using tea as a keyboard cleaner, I suppose that it's sort of
on topic! g

--
Cheers,
Set Square
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The Natural Philosopher April 10th 04 01:57 AM

DIY Cooking
 
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?

Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim


I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!



Have you heard the one about he camel and the two bricks?


Mary






The Natural Philosopher April 10th 04 01:58 AM

DIY Cooking
 
Andy Hall wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:29:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?

Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim

I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!

Mary




I read somewhere that the Israelis were putting quantities of lard on
buses to deter suicide bombers.



And jews, probably.




.andy

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Andy Hall April 10th 04 02:37 AM

DIY Cooking
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:58:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:29:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Ian Stirling" wrote in message news:Bjzdc.31351$Y%

What's 'lard oil'?

Oil made from lard.
IIRC, you take lard, and press it (cold) into some muslim

I'm sure you mean 'muslin' :-)

Any muslim would be horrified at having pig fat pressed into him/her!

Mary




I read somewhere that the Israelis were putting quantities of lard on
buses to deter suicide bombers.



And jews, probably.



No, the stories are kosher, (to excuse an expression)....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3221079.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3159010.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3484277.stm








..andy

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