Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w. So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4 way
sockets around?

Geoff

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w. So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4 way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w.
So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4
way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!



You're ahead of me then - where do you find that?

"GB" wrote in message
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"EricP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are
all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w.
So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom
shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there
4
way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!



You're ahead of me then - where do you find that?


I came across a similar dilemma - no adaptor seemed readily available -
solved the problem by fitting additional sockets.
Regards,
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:07:44 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:


"EricP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w.
So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4
way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!



You're ahead of me then - where do you find that?

Just Google for "shaver socket" in "UK" and they appear or the
Screwfix catalogue, if you can get in it. Like this but I am not sure
about bathroom approval.
http://shopping.hotbot.co.uk/6998en77685.html


My wife also found this:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TCHDR50SS.html

which appeals to her, and shuts up the "Where's the hair dryer gone"
as it's bolted to the wall.

Could any sparks have a look and say if it looks legal, even though it
says so. It does not have any BS number as far as I can see.

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w.
So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4
way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!



It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than one item
connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it sounds, that item 1
fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case whilst item 2 fails whilst
the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise, then you could touch both and not be
protected by the transformer. Hence you need a separate transfromer for each
socket.

You mentioned a huge box, that's probably why it's huge. How huge, and where
do I get one?

In article , "GB"
says...

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:41:13 +0000 (UTC), "GB"
wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge. Total current
consumption is tiny - the electric toothbrush chargers are rated at 2w.
So,
where do I find a 4-way adapter that I can plug into the bathroom shaver
socket? I guess it needs to be shuttered, etc. Failing that, are there 4
way
sockets around?

Geoff

Only thing I can find is that huge BS approved box for £29. I will
therefore watch the results of this post with some interest!



It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than one item
connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it sounds, that item 1
fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case whilst item 2 fails whilst
the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise, then you could touch both and not be
protected by the transformer. Hence you need a separate transfromer for each
socket.

You mentioned a huge box, that's probably why it's huge. How huge, and where
do I get one?

So you don't fancy my idea of sticking four 13A shaver adapters in a 4-
way socket strip, and fitting a shaver plug to plug it in to the
existing socket?

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...

So you don't fancy my idea of sticking four 13A shaver adapters in a 4-
way socket strip, and fitting a shaver plug to plug it in to the
existing socket?

You forgot to add the smiley. There, that's better.

In article ,
GB wrote:
It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than one
item connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it sounds, that
item 1 fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case whilst item 2
fails whilst the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise, then you could touch
both and not be protected by the transformer. Hence you need a separate
transfromer for each socket.

Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives, then it
must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard practice in the
days when they were used in TV for musical instruments and there was a
very real danger of this occurring with cheap guitar amps etc.

--
*Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives, then it
must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard practice in the
days when they were used in TV for musical instruments and there was a
very real danger of this occurring with cheap guitar amps etc.

--
*Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake.

Dave Plowman London SW

To e-mail, change noise into sound.


Point taken, but why can't an enterprising manufacturer come up with a two,
three or even four transformer unit.

Pete

In article ,
Peter Stockdale wrote:
Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives,
then it must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard
practice in the days when they were used in TV for musical instruments
and there was a very real danger of this occurring with cheap guitar
amps etc.

Point taken, but why can't an enterprising manufacturer come up with a
two, three or even four transformer unit.

You'd have to ask them. Cost would be a major factor. And the size - it
couldn't possibly fit in a standard box.

However, if you think you're on to a money spinner, start making them.
Others make money out of bright ideas.

--
*Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than
one item connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it
sounds, that item 1 fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case
whilst item 2 fails whilst the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise,
then you could touch both and not be protected by the transformer.
Hence you need a separate transfromer for each socket.

Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives,
then it must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard
practice in the days when they were used in TV for musical
instruments and there was a very real danger of this occurring with
cheap guitar amps etc.

I've missed the point on this somehow.

How would being able to touch both the live and the neutral suddenly be
as bad as if the transformer were not there and you did likewise?

In message , Buxnot
writes
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than
one item connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it
sounds, that item 1 fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case
whilst item 2 fails whilst the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise,
then you could touch both and not be protected by the transformer.
Hence you need a separate transfromer for each socket.

Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives,
then it must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard
practice in the days when they were used in TV for musical
instruments and there was a very real danger of this occurring with
cheap guitar amps etc.

I've missed the point on this somehow.

How would being able to touch both the live and the neutral suddenly be
as bad as if the transformer were not there and you did likewise?

Because you receive the full mains voltage. An isolation transformer
does not change that. The point of an isolation transformer is that
neither side is 'live' any more, you could touch either side safely. You
can't touch both sides simultaneously safely.

The 'one item only' rule assumes the worst: that one appliance has
failed live-to-case and the other neutral-to-case.
--
Joe

"Buxnot" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
It just occurs to me why you might not be allowed to have more than
one item connected to a shaver socket. Suppose, unlikely as it
sounds, that item 1 fails so that the 'live' wire touches the case
whilst item 2 fails whilst the 'neutral' wire is doing likewise,
then you could touch both and not be protected by the transformer.
Hence you need a separate transfromer for each socket.

Absolutely. If you want the safety an isolation transformer gives,
then it must be restricted to one device per transformer. Standard
practice in the days when they were used in TV for musical
instruments and there was a very real danger of this occurring with
cheap guitar amps etc.

I've missed the point on this somehow.

How would being able to touch both the live and the neutral suddenly be
as bad as if the transformer were not there and you did likewise?

Presumably because the transfomer is acting in this case as a current
reducer and it is the mains current that kills - not the mains voltage.
My sheep fencing pushes out 4000volts but the current is so low that no
injury is caused.

Regards,
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

GB wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge.

Surely, unless the batteries are well past their best, you should
not need to charge them all at the same time?

As a backup, just get a 13A 2-pin adaptor and you can top up in
the nearest bedroom, or even on the landing

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

In article , Chris J Dixon
wrote:

GB wrote:

Bathroom shaver point adapter needed:

We now have 3 electric toothbrushes and an electric shaver. These are all
battery powered, but they need to be left on charge.

Surely, unless the batteries are well past their best, you should not
need to charge them all at the same time?

As a backup, just get a 13A 2-pin adaptor and you can top up in the
nearest bedroom, or even on the landing

And keep & use the electric shaver in the bedroom.

--
Mike Clarke