I was just thinking about replacing our boiler, but we live in a small flat
where space is a premium. I have a very small traditional boiler, but I
realise the smallest combi will be bigger.

cheers
gna

"gna03633" wrote in message
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I was just thinking about replacing our boiler, but we live in a small
flat
where space is a premium. I have a very small traditional boiler, but I
realise the smallest combi will be bigger.

In theory some of the pre-mix radiant burners with spiral tube heat
excahgers could go in on their sides. The auto air vent would have to be
re-positioned. In practice. NO!

Look at the Worcester Bosch Junior. That is very small. Look at the size.

IMM wrote:


Look at the Worcester Bosch Junior. That is very small. Look at the size.

The Isar range from Ideal are quite a bit smaller still, and available
with more power (upto 35kW).

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


Look at the Worcester Bosch Junior. That is very small. Look at the
size.

The Isar range from Ideal are quite a bit smaller still, and available
with more power (upto 35kW).

I think the Isar is wider. Depends on the space available.

IMM wrote:

I think the Isar is wider.

Err.. no

The 24i Junior is 600, 400, 325mm (H, W, D) but that is only part of the
story. It also needs 25mm either side, 200mm below, 180mm above, and
25mm to the front.

The Ideal Isar HE 35 is 687, 390, 278mm (H, W, D) and requires
5mm either side, 100mm below, 185 above, 0 to the front.

So for the WB you get a total space requirement of 980, 450, 350mm and
the Ideal you get 787, 400, 278

So the WB requires over one and a three quater times the volume of the
Ideal, which has has one and a half times the power.

Depends on the space available.

Err.. no - Think you will find the size of the boiler is pretty much
fixed irrespective of the space you have available.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

I think the Isar is wider.

Err.. no

The 24i Junior is 600, 400, 325mm (H, W, D) but that is only part of the
story. It also needs 25mm either side, 200mm below, 180mm above, and
25mm to the front.

The Ideal Isar HE 35 is 687, 390, 278mm (H, W, D) and requires
5mm either side, 100mm below, 185 above, 0 to the front.

So for the WB you get a total space requirement of 980, 450, 350mm and
the Ideal you get 787, 400, 278

So the WB requires over one and a three quater times the volume of the
Ideal, which has has one and a half times the power.

1.5 times the power. Is 35 kW 1.5 times more than 28kW?

Depends on the space available.

Err.. no - Think you will find the size of the boiler is pretty much
fixed irrespective of the space you have available.

The Isar is a condensing boiler, which in some cases cannot be fitted where
flats are concerned. It is also more reliable (so far) and simpler (no
3-way valve), although uses more gas being a regular boiler.

Just before the Isar came out I fitted an Ideal regular combi simply because
it was the only boiler that fitted the space. I'm not great fan of Ideal's
pre-mix burners. They tend to go boom far to frequently..

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:11:55 +0100, gna03633 wrote:

I was just thinking about replacing our boiler, but we live in a small flat
where space is a premium. I have a very small traditional boiler, but I
realise the smallest combi will be bigger.


A quick trawl through my stock of downloaded manuals include the word
vertical.


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