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%[_32_] June 9th 21 08:55 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09 12:46 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:39:12 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:33 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:20:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 21:34:50 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain
it?

I think it's just him getting tired of you going on and on.

Got sick of his trolling/demanding cites for everything,
absolutely classic trolling that it always ends up with.

I asked you to back some claims of yours. You got angry at your failure, not
with me. I am not responsible for your displaced aggression, nor shall I
take
it personally.

there's a lovely duck and dodge right after the chorus , listen


QUACK!

Hey, that echoed.

oh sure leave me the dodge

Snit[_3_] June 9th 21 08:59 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:35:14 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking
about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue
to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or
another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment
shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it
is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.


I did not here.


Yes you did with proof and a number of other terms.


I was clear the semantics need not be quibbled over... but if one is going out
of their way to specify they do not merely have evidence but do have proof, as
you did, then you are focusing on the terms.

Your claim was in error... though your overall points about COVID and the
vaccines are often correct.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Snit[_3_] June 9th 21 09:00 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun


He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Snit[_3_] June 9th 21 09:03 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:55:48 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:46 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:39:12 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:33 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:20:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 21:34:50 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain
it?

I think it's just him getting tired of you going on and on.

Got sick of his trolling/demanding cites for everything,
absolutely classic trolling that it always ends up with.

I asked you to back some claims of yours. You got angry at your
failure, not
with me. I am not responsible for your displaced aggression, nor shall I
take
it personally.

there's a lovely duck and dodge right after the chorus , listen


QUACK!

Hey, that echoed.

oh sure leave me the dodge


Not gonna respond to that.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:16 PM

Shit, the Git, the Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE!
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 20:00:29 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.


I see now that you are one of the most cunning senile trolls that yet showed
up on these groups, **** the Git. "pothead" was right about you all the
time! G

Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:17 PM

Sick SENILE SWINE keeps Feeding Troll!
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 19:34:21 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


Good point.


The ONLY point here is that it's OFF TOPIC sick ****, **** the Git!

Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:19 PM

The TWO Resident Senile Trolling Bigmouths at Loggerheads, AGAIN! ROTFLOL
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 19:59:54 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:



I was clear the semantics need not be


Keep your sick senile **** out of these ngs, you two sick trolling senile
assholes!

Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:21 PM

The TWO Resident Trolling Senile Bigmouths at Loggerheads, AGAIN! ROTFLOL
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 19:31:56 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:

FLUSH another load of stinking senile TROLL****

Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:22 PM

Shit, the Git, the Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE!
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 19:46:11 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


QUACK!

Hey, that echoed.


Hey, that stinks of your usual senile ****, **** the Git! BG

Peeler[_4_] June 9th 21 09:25 PM

Shit, the Git, the Trolling Senile Shithead!
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 20:03:58 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:



Not gonna respond to that.


Wanna bet, **** the Git, you trolling senile cretin? BG

%[_32_] June 9th 21 09:34 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun


He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group

Rod Speed June 9th 21 10:02 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:35:14 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking
about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who
continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or
another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment
shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus
and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the
serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet,
it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the
virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.

I did not here.


Yes you did with proof and a number of other terms.


I was clear the semantics need not be quibbled over...


And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.

reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs



pothead June 10th 21 12:26 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 22:35:54 +0100, pothead wrote:

On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote:


Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.


Snit is running his "Fire Engine Troll" on you.
Here it is:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os....ic1PGw-5sXA/m/
eqRxD0a0AAAJ

Quote Engaged----------------

"Snit is obviously flying high on drugs again because he is in Rainman
Mode,
but here is what will happen with all of his threads.



Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red?
Snit: Define red.
Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine.
Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow.
Person: Ok, red like blood.
Snit: Blood isn't really red.
Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose.
Snit: What kind of rose?
Person: I don't know, a ****ing red rose.
Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me?
Person: Because you are an idiot.
Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say.
Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now. You
don't listen.
Snit: Define something.
Person: Are you some kind of asshole?
Snit: Why are you attacking me.
Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game.
Snit: You ran away. I won.
Person: dead silence.

And this is how snit keeps his circus alive."

Quote disengaged-----------


ROTFPMSL! A very good description of Snit, or indeed any weirdo with OCD.


It's the perfect example of how snit crafts his trolls to cause
disruption and chaos in the groups he infects like a ****ing german
cockroach.


--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024
Lifetime Member of "The Prescott Parasite Eradication Team"
Ask snit how he ****ed on his cat.
All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181028....com/snit.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529.../snitlist.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529...ieMethods.html


Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 12:58 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:35:14 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking
about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who
continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or
another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment
shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus
and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the
serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet,
it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the
virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.

I did not here.

Yes you did with proof and a number of other terms.


I was clear the semantics need not be quibbled over...


And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.

reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs


Not sure what type attention you are seeking. Can you be more clear?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



%[_32_] June 10th 21 01:45 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group


I don't.

i had to feed cows today

Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 03:20 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 5:45:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group


I don't.

i had to feed cows today


I herd you are outstanding in your field.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



%[_32_] June 10th 21 03:29 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09 7:20 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 5:45:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group

I don't.

i had to feed cows today


I herd you are outstanding in your field.

i'm a trough of knowledge

Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 03:41 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
% wrote:
On 2021-06-09 7:20 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 5:45:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group

I don't.

i had to feed cows today


I herd you are outstanding in your field.

i'm a trough of knowledge


Water you talking about?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Rod Speed June 10th 21 04:28 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:35:14 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using
it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was
thinking about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard
about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who
continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or
another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses
environment shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the
virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the
serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic
bullet, it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the
virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.

I did not here.

Yes you did with proof and a number of other terms.


I was clear the semantics need not be quibbled over...


And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs



%[_32_] June 10th 21 05:03 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On 2021-06-09 7:41 p.m., Snit wrote:
% wrote:
On 2021-06-09 7:20 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 5:45:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group

I don't.

i had to feed cows today

I herd you are outstanding in your field.

i'm a trough of knowledge


Water you talking about?

i cud say that if i want

Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 05:33 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


....

And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.

reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs


Not sure what type attention you are seeking. Can you be more clear?


You failed to answer the question.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 06:41 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:03:51 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 7:41 p.m., Snit wrote:
% wrote:
On 2021-06-09 7:20 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 5:45:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 4:59 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 1:34:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 1:00 p.m., Snit wrote:
On Jun 9, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-06-09 12:40 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

thats a rerun

He redundantly repeats himself over and over in a repetitive way.

i know him from another group

I don't.

i had to feed cows today

I herd you are outstanding in your field.

i'm a trough of knowledge


Water you talking about?

i cud say that if i want


Udderly... OK, yeah, that's so overused it's just bull at this point. I am not
gonna get pasture level.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Rod Speed June 10th 21 08:06 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...
And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs



Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 08:23 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:33:48 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...

And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.

reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs


Not sure what type attention you are seeking. Can you be more clear?


You failed to answer the question.


Perhaps your failure to answer is an answer it itself.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Peeler[_4_] June 10th 21 09:06 AM

Shit, the Git, the Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE!
 
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:23:49 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


Not sure what type attention you are seeking. Can you be more clear?


You failed to answer the question.


Perhaps your failure to answer is an answer it itself.


Don't you sometimes get an inkling of what a depraved trolling ****head you
are, **** the Git? No? BG

Peeler[_4_] June 10th 21 09:25 AM

Shit, the Git, the Trolling Senile Shithead!
 
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 05:41:58 GMT, **** the git, the senile troll and
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


Udderly... OK, yeah, that's so overused it's just bull at this point. I am not
gonna get pasture level.


You sick old swine have no qualms AT ALL about trashing all these groups
with your endless senile ****, eh, you depraved senile ****head and troll?

Rod Speed June 10th 21 10:09 AM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:33:48 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...
And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs



Snit[_3_] June 10th 21 06:20 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Jun 10, 2021 at 2:09:19 AM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:33:48 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...
And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs


Your need for the last word, even if one of no value, is weird.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.



Rod Speed June 10th 21 06:33 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 10, 2021 at 2:09:19 AM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:33:48 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...
And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs



Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:34 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 20:31:02 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Ralph Mowery wrote
wrote


Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.


Good way to help out the social security defect. Just got rid
of close to a million that are receiving it or were about to.


Trouble is that it doesn't just kill those and in fact
produces lots with long covid who were previously
gainfully employed and who didn't get any social
security who now get social security.


Since almost everyone dying is over 65, there aren't many gainfully employed dying off.

Even if there were, that frees up more jobs.

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:36 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:20:39 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 10, 2021 at 2:09:19 AM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 2021 at 9:33:48 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 4:58:44 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02:24 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:


...
And then you did just that, you pathetic excuse for a troll.


reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs


Your need for the last word, even if one of no value, is weird.


Which you just did....

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:37 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:14:21 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 9:20:46 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?


No. It reduces the number of times it mutates and thus reduces the chance of
new strains. Hence it is important we help as many people as possible get it.


Do you think it's ok to have 7 billion people in the world?

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:38 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:14:54 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 10:22:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100,
wrote:

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected process
whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a
vaccine
or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that wasn't
resistant is dead.


I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.


Only intelligent compared to Republicans.


You misspelt Democrats. The ones that steal money from hard working people then hand it to you.

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:39 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:14:16 +0100, Maskless Sociopath wrote:

On 6/7/2021 12:20 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly.


COVID-19 had no effect on me so I'm not concerned about COVID-20. LOL


It's very unlikely to have an effect on you. But modern society likes to worry. They see a large number of people dying and think it could be them, they don't understand percentages, they don't look at how many didn't catch it.

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:39 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:30:41 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

On 07 Jun 2021 at 18:22:25 BST, "Commander Kinsey" wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100, wrote:

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly.

Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected process
whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a vaccine
or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that wasn't
resistant is dead.


I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a speedtrap and driving on a different route.


You're shaping up to be a worse troll than T r o l l, and AISB, that's a
high bar.


Nope, just making a point.

Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:42 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 04:28:34 +0100, FromTheRafters wrote:

on 6/7/2021, Rod Speed supposed :
FromTheRafters wrote
Rod Speed wrote
FromTheRafters wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote


Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.


Good point actually.


Nope, shows a complete misunderstanding of how viruses mutate.


Only if you take his "everyone" literally and assume that it is 100 percent
effective at preventing "hosting" the virus.


Doesn't need to be anything like 100% effective at reducing
the chance of getting infected to radically reduce the number
of hosts that the virus can reproduce in. That's the only way
it can mutate, by reproducing.


Yes, it needs a host.

It seems you don't understand how viruses mutate


My original statement is completely accurate.


I didn't say it wasn't, I said the OP had a good point.

or how vaccines work.


And so is my later elaboration on that too.

The best of the covid vaccines have been shown to dramatically reduce the
rate of covid infection in the vaccinated. They don't just reduce the rate of
severe infection and death as you previously claimed in another of your
posts.


I didn't say that. I said:

"vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others"

This means that while hosting the virus their systems present an
environmental selection against the currently targeted shapes of the
various vaccines' antibodies.


My point exactly. Why have a vaccine if you can still pass it around? And even more importantly, having the vaccine means people are less likely to take other precautions, more likely to host it and more likely to be showing the virus how to mutate.

Rod Speed June 10th 21 06:43 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 20:31:02 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

Ralph Mowery wrote
wrote


Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.


Good way to help out the social security defect. Just got rid
of close to a million that are receiving it or were about to.


Trouble is that it doesn't just kill those and in fact
produces lots with long covid who were previously
gainfully employed and who didn't get any social
security who now get social security.


Since almost everyone dying is over 65,


That's pig ignorant bull****.

there aren't many gainfully employed dying off.


More bull****.

Even if there were, that frees up more jobs.


But sees lots more on social security with the ones with
long covid and it isnt just those over 65 that get that.


Rod Speed June 10th 21 06:46 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:14:21 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 9:20:46 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?


No. It reduces the number of times it mutates and thus reduces the chance
of
new strains. Hence it is important we help as many people as possible get
it.


Do you think it's ok to have 7 billion people in the world?


Yep, produces a bigger market for what we make, produce etc.

Those on benefits should be executed but for
some reason that's gone out of fashion now.


Commander Kinsey[_3_] June 10th 21 06:50 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 19:22:17 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:42:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:05:10 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.


I doubt we know how the virus thinks.


Viruses do not think.


This one is cleverer than most.

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.


Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.


Are you volunteering?


I admit I'm not the healthiest specimen. And I've volunteered by not having the vaccine. If my immune system can't kill it off, I shouldn't be here.

Rod Speed June 10th 21 06:51 PM

OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?
 


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 04:28:34 +0100, FromTheRafters
wrote:

on 6/7/2021, Rod Speed supposed :
FromTheRafters wrote
Rod Speed wrote
FromTheRafters wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually.

Nope, shows a complete misunderstanding of how viruses mutate.

Only if you take his "everyone" literally and assume that it is 100
percent
effective at preventing "hosting" the virus.

Doesn't need to be anything like 100% effective at reducing
the chance of getting infected to radically reduce the number
of hosts that the virus can reproduce in. That's the only way
it can mutate, by reproducing.


Yes, it needs a host.

It seems you don't understand how viruses mutate

My original statement is completely accurate.


I didn't say it wasn't, I said the OP had a good point.

or how vaccines work.

And so is my later elaboration on that too.

The best of the covid vaccines have been shown to dramatically reduce
the
rate of covid infection in the vaccinated. They don't just reduce the
rate of
severe infection and death as you previously claimed in another of your
posts.


I didn't say that. I said:

"vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others"


This means that while hosting the virus their systems present an
environmental selection against the currently targeted shapes of the
various vaccines' antibodies.


My point exactly.


It doesn't work like that.

Why have a vaccine if you can still pass it around?


Because the absolute vast bulk of the vaccinated don't.

And even more importantly, having the vaccine means people are less likely
to take other precautions,


That's because vaccines work much better than all other precautions
except complete isolation which isnt feasible for most.

more likely to host it


That's just plain wrong.

and more likely to be showing the virus how to mutate.


And that is too. There is no showing involved either.



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