Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

--

Jeff

On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

I had an Epson I had to throw away as it was out of use for a year and
the heads dried out. Silly idea not to include the heads in the
cartridges as I don't think you could buy the heads separately.

Why do you want to take the cartridge(s) out?

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Max Demian

On 16/05/2021 17:58, Max Demian wrote:
On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

I had an Epson I had to throw away as it was out of use for a year and
the heads dried out. Silly idea not to include the heads in the
cartridges as I don't think you could buy the heads separately.

Why do you want to take the cartridge(s) out?

From what I understand, inkjet print heads are of identical design,
it's just that HP and Canon put them in the cartridge, while Epson has a
separate print head. They all eventually dry up and block if not used
enough. With an Epson, that might mean a new printer, but with the other
two just a new cartridge. I was wondering if it would be possible to
take out the cartridge after use and perhaps put it in a sealed jar or
wrap it in clingfilm to keep it damp and so stop it drying out.

--

Jeff

On 16/05/2021 20:04, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 16/05/2021 17:58, Max Demian wrote:
On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

I had an Epson I had to throw away as it was out of use for a year and
the heads dried out. Silly idea not to include the heads in the
cartridges as I don't think you could buy the heads separately.

Why do you want to take the cartridge(s) out?

From what I understand, inkjet print heads are of identical design,
it's just that HP and Canon put them in the cartridge, while Epson has a
separate print head. They all eventually dry up and block if not used
enough. With an Epson, that might mean a new printer, but with the other
two just a new cartridge. I was wondering if it would be possible to
take out the cartridge after use and perhaps put it in a sealed jar or
wrap it in clingfilm to keep it damp and so stop it drying out.


The latest Canon printers seem to gone down the 'expensive' printer
and 'cheap' cartridge route.

On 16/05/2021 20:04, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 16/05/2021 17:58, Max Demian wrote:
On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

I had an Epson I had to throw away as it was out of use for a year and
the heads dried out. Silly idea not to include the heads in the
cartridges as I don't think you could buy the heads separately.

Why do you want to take the cartridge(s) out?

From what I understand, inkjet print heads are of identical design,
it's just that HP and Canon put them in the cartridge, while Epson has a
separate print head. They all eventually dry up and block if not used
enough. With an Epson, that might mean a new printer, but with the other
two just a new cartridge. I was wondering if it would be possible to
take out the cartridge after use and perhaps put it in a sealed jar or
wrap it in clingfilm to keep it damp and so stop it drying out.


They seem to use water and glycol mixture in inkjet ink, same with
printer head cleaning fluid.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PRINTER-CLE.../dp/B001EN9W2Y

Put some in a jar and immerse the head in it.

Use my HP ENVY 4520 once or twice every 6 months and so far and no
blockage after 4 years.

On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them
drying out?

It would be more trouble than it is worth.

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find
a way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's
snap fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be
prevented from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be
an advantage.

Some Canons - at least all the ones I have ever owned have cartridges
that are ink only and fairly robust anti drying out and cleaning cycles.

HP inkjets and Epsons are inclined to clog up at the first opportunity.
Any printer with pigment inks are particularly prone to trouble.

Basically either print a bit more often or get a laser!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Sun, 16 May 2021 20:04:35 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

snip

From what I understand, inkjet print heads are of identical design,
it's just that HP and Canon put them in the cartridge, while Epson has a
separate print head.

I thought you had 'Ink jet' and 'Bubble jet', one being the ink being
thrown out by a piezoelectric crystal and the other by heating the ink
with a small coil and the bubble forcing the ink out?

They all eventually dry up and block if not used
enough. With an Epson, that might mean a new printer, but with the other
two just a new cartridge.

I think that can depend on the spec of the printer. With some you can
buy / replace the head. With 'bubble jets' the head is generally built
into the cartridge in any case (HP's etc).

I was wondering if it would be possible to
take out the cartridge after use and perhaps put it in a sealed jar or
wrap it in clingfilm to keep it damp and so stop it drying out.

Given they often come with a 'film' or cap over the ink outlet / head,
it may be possible but the issue with re-filming is getting it dry
enough to stick (they probably put the film on before filling in the
factory).

When I had ink jet printers they were generally HP and used reasonably
frequently. Since I got the Ricoh colour laser and don't print
pictures (cheaper online), I haven't bothered with an ink jet for a
long time now. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

Cling film is supposed to work well, but I've never tried it myself.
Brian

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Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them drying
out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find a
way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's snap
fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked if
the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be prevented
from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be an
advantage.

--

Jeff

Most of the time you only want to print black and white, but it can be handy
to have the colour function available.
Brian

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On 16/05/2021 16:52, Jeff Layman wrote:
Anyone tried removing partially-used colour cartridges from HP or Canon
inkjet printers and storing them in sealed containers to stop them drying
out?

I'm just about to chuck out my Epson XP-325 as it won't turn on (I spent
two hours this morning cleaning a blocked yellow print head, and just
before printing the test sheet after a clean it just died. I can't find a
way of getting it apart and seeing if the smps has gone south. It's snap
fit with the odd screw). I'll replace it with an HP or Canon.

Epsons have cartridges without print heads, but HPs and Canons have them
integral with the cartridge. That means only the cartridge gets chucked
if the blockage can't be removed, but if the cartridge could be prevented
from drying out with only very intermittent use, that would be an
advantage.

I had an Epson I had to throw away as it was out of use for a year and the
heads dried out. Silly idea not to include the heads in the cartridges as
I don't think you could buy the heads separately.

Why do you want to take the cartridge(s) out?

--
Max Demian

On 17/05/2021 08:42, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Most of the time you only want to print black and white, but it can be handy
to have the colour function available.

But you mostly don't have to change cartridges to do that, unless there
is a special one to do high quality photos that takes the place of the
normal black one as in my Dell Photo 924.

--
Max Demian

T i m wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 20:04:35 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

snip

From what I understand, inkjet print heads are of identical design,
it's just that HP and Canon put them in the cartridge, while Epson has a
separate print head.

I thought you had 'Ink jet' and 'Bubble jet', one being the ink being
thrown out by a piezoelectric crystal and the other by heating the ink
with a small coil and the bubble forcing the ink out?

Yes. Epson is inkjet, HP and Canon are bubblejet. The nice thing about
Epsons is you can fill them with things other than dye-based ink (eg
pigments), whereas that's more difficult with bubblejet where the nozzle
boils the ink on the way through.

They all eventually dry up and block if not used
enough. With an Epson, that might mean a new printer, but with the other
two just a new cartridge.

I think that can depend on the spec of the printer. With some you can
buy / replace the head. With 'bubble jets' the head is generally built
into the cartridge in any case (HP's etc).

The bubblejet head is simpler I think, which makes it more feasible to
supply a new one with every cartridge. On Epsons you can get head cleaning
cartridges, eg:
https://www.cityinkexpress.co.uk/che...tridge/magenta

They also come with a cap for the cartridge that presumably stops it getting
dry (also on refill carts - they have a rubber layer inside the cap).

Given they often come with a 'film' or cap over the ink outlet / head,
it may be possible but the issue with re-filming is getting it dry
enough to stick (they probably put the film on before filling in the
factory).

Wrap them in cling film?

Theo

On 17 May 2021 16:49:31 +0100 (BST), Theo
wrote:

snip

Given they often come with a 'film' or cap over the ink outlet / head,
it may be possible but the issue with re-filming is getting it dry
enough to stick (they probably put the film on before filling in the
factory).

Wrap them in cling film?

I had thought of that and may have even tried it in the past but I
think the capillary action between film and the nozzles cause the ink
to come out. ;-(

Cheers, T i m