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NHS app and vaccination passport.
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a
vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. -- *Why do the two "sanction"s (noun and verb) mean opposites?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28 Apr 2021, Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. I like the Motorola phones; they come out quite high in the ratings of value for money. A heap of years ago when my Galaxy S3 got too old (only had 3G), I bought a Moto G4 plus. Was happy with that, so when it started acting up after another few years, I stayed with them (Moto G8 plus), and have been happy with it. Both of the phones were good value -- the G8 plus cost 180 last December. Can't advise on the camera -- ISTR it was well reviewed and it's absolutely fine for me, but I don't use it all that much (so I'm not particularly fussy about side of things). -- Cheers, Harvey |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. That's probably because some facility it uses is not on older phones. Or, the older phone doesn't run the latest software. I've got this problem on an iPhone which I've only had for a couple of years. Can't get TomTom traffic on it. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 28/04/2021 16:44, HVS wrote:
On 28 Apr 2021, Dave Plowman (News) wrote snipped If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. I like the Motorola phones; they come out quite high in the ratings of value for money. Motorola E7 plus is good value at around £120. No compass though. -- Cheers Clive |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Had my second jab at the local vaccination centre last Friday. The guy who filled out the credit-card sized record card said to take a photograph of it and keep that handy together with an "official" photo (passport page, driving licence, etc). to show it's really your vaccine record. My mobile phone is an ancient Huawei running Android 4.1. I'll change it when the battery fails (it's around 8 years old). I dislike Android intensely and in any case never use the phone for anything financial. I think the new one will be the cheapest one I can get which can be rooted safely (and it /still/ won't be used for anything financial). -- Jeff |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) Having said that, I'm pleased with my Motorola. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:48, charles wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. That's probably because some facility it uses is not on older phones. Or, the older phone doesn't run the latest software. It's because the developer had the latest phone/software. -- Max Demian |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote:
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) Having said that, I'm pleased with my Motorola. I am neither pleased nor upset with my galaxy A10 It was simply the cheapest POS that would do wifi calling on PAYG. -- The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. Karl Marx |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote:
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? Google suggests that you can update Android way beyond v6, using unofficial updates. Might be worth a look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) Having said that, I'm pleased with my Motorola. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:08:35 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Have a look at Motorola and Nokia phones. Cant speak for the cameras on them but if you look for the models running Android One they will give at least 2 years of OS upgrades and 3 years of security updates. HTH |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
GB wrote:
Google suggests that you can update Android way beyond v6, using unofficial updates. Might be worth a look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS The S4 goes up to Android 11: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltexx - it's one of the best supported phones. Although I'd have a spare phone on hand in case something goes wrong so you can still make calls. Theo |
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On 28/04/2021 18:26, Theo wrote:
GB wrote: Google suggests that you can update Android way beyond v6, using unofficial updates. Might be worth a look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS The S4 goes up to Android 11: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltexx - it's one of the best supported phones. Although I'd have a spare phone on hand in case something goes wrong so you can still make calls. Theo Exactly so. But, it's worth emphasising that that is not a Samsung upgrade. I don't know what version Samsung upgrades went up to, but I suspect that it was Android 4 or 5. Most/many people just rely on the manufacturer's upgrades. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. It does not need a particularly recent phone (I think hardware wise all it needs is Bluetooth Low Energy 4 or above), but does need Android 6 or later. Most S4s were Android 5 (Lollipop) Although Samsung don't have an update for this, there are ways of installing it yourself: https://www.nextpit.com/how-to-get-a...sung-galaxy-s4 I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, There will no doubt be manual ways to achieve the result without a smartphone, however path of least resistance and all that! what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Moto does ok for me, but there are other mid range good value options out there these days. "Good camera" tends to be quite a broad definition now - some phones take the camera aspect to the extreme. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 28/04/2021 16:48, charles wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. That's probably because some facility it uses is not on older phones. Or, the older phone doesn't run the latest software. It's because the developer had the latest phone/software. Nope, he is right about how that happens. The feature needed is a bluetooth feature. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Can it not be any "smart" phone? Does the app require a working SIM card or just a Bluetooth capability so you can continue with your chosen phone? https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1952085 Or buy second hand from likes of eBay. I paid £20 for a used LG phone. |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:35:24 +0100, GB
wrote: On 28/04/2021 18:26, Theo wrote: GB wrote: Google suggests that you can update Android way beyond v6, using unofficial updates. Might be worth a look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS The S4 goes up to Android 11: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltexx - it's one of the best supported phones. Although I'd have a spare phone on hand in case something goes wrong so you can still make calls. Theo Exactly so. But, it's worth emphasising that that is not a Samsung upgrade. I don't know what version Samsung upgrades went up to, but I suspect that it was Android 4 or 5. Yes, my SGS4 is on 5.0.1 Most/many people just rely on the manufacturer's upgrades. Whilst being reasonably technical and generally update the firmware / BIOS's in most things, I've always been reluctant to jailbreak any of my phones as they were generally not cheap and in often in regular use. ;-) My SGS2 is on Android version 4.0.4 and has a giffgaff PAYG SIM in it as a backup phone. My current phone, a SGS7 is on version 8.0.0 I wouldn't mind therefore trying to upgrade the SGS4 but looking at the steps on Johns link it looks like there are a million things that could go wrong and leave you with a brick? ;-( I would be reassured if there were loads of people saying they had followed the walkthrough and it worked first time (but there don't seem to be). ;-( Cheers, T i m |
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On 28/04/2021 16:44, HVS wrote:
On 28 Apr 2021, Dave Plowman (News) wrote Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. I like the Motorola phones; they come out quite high in the ratings of value for money. A heap of years ago when my Galaxy S3 got too old (only had 3G), I bought a Moto G4 plus. Was happy with that, so when it started acting up after another few years, I stayed with them (Moto G8 plus), and have been happy with it. Both of the phones were good value -- the G8 plus cost Ł180 last December. Can't advise on the camera -- ISTR it was well reviewed and it's absolutely fine for me, but I don't use it all that much (so I'm not particularly fussy about side of things). Me too for Motorola. I've had several, currently a G8. Don't use the camera for anything serious though. |
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Fredxx wrote:
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1952085 4 years old model, when even the best phones only receive updates for 3 years (technically the EoL date for android 8.1 has been postponed due to covid, it was supposed to be getting the bullet in two days time). I'd buy at least an android 10 or 11 device, or you'll be buying again in 18 months... |
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Max Demian wrote:
It's because the developer had the latest phone/software. The NHS covid app requires bluetooth "low energy" (BLE) capability introduced in android 6 (marshmallow) but not all phones had the hardware for it. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
even the best phones only receive updates for 3 years Android phones that is, I'm aware iThings get longer support, that doesn't necessarily make them best ... |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. Google added some features to the Android OS to detect proximity of other phones, so it could detect contacts. This was only added to newer versions of Android. BoJo's original app tried to bypass this, so he could have a central NHS database, but we know what happened to that. So Google not BoJo's fault.. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Look at the Samsung A series... Dave |
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On 28/04/2021 23:53, David Wade wrote:
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. Google added some features to the Android OS to detect proximity of other phones, so it could detect contacts. This was only added to newer versions of Android. BoJo's original app tried to bypass this, so he could have a central NHS database, but we know what happened to that. So Google not BoJo's fault.. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Look at the Samsung A series... Dave Actually we are not likely to use the Track & Trace app. Its the NHS booking an records app https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...line.nhsonline but it still needs Android 5 to work. Dave |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
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John Rumm wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. It does not need a particularly recent phone (I think hardware wise all it needs is Bluetooth Low Energy 4 or above), but does need Android 6 or later. Most S4s were Android 5 (Lollipop) Although Samsung don't have an update for this, there are ways of installing it yourself: https://www.nextpit.com/how-to-get-a...sung-galaxy-s4 That looks a bit above my paygrade. Does anyone offer this service? Have Googled, but no help there. And looked on Ebay. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, There will no doubt be manual ways to achieve the result without a smartphone, however path of least resistance and all that! what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Moto does ok for me, but there are other mid range good value options out there these days. "Good camera" tends to be quite a broad definition now - some phones take the camera aspect to the extreme. The S4 has an excellent snapshot camera, which I use a great deal. Perhaps the main reason I bought it in the first place. -- *Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:08:35 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Don't rule out buying a refurbished phone. I've just bought one for the wife (she wanted the same one as mine, now an old model and only a few new ones still around for 200+) for 75 and am well pleased. Not a mark on it, battery holding charge well. Sold by 'thetechout' on eBay. Samsung Galaxy A3 (2017) |
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On 29/04/2021 11:05, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , John Rumm wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. It does not need a particularly recent phone (I think hardware wise all it needs is Bluetooth Low Energy 4 or above), but does need Android 6 or later. Most S4s were Android 5 (Lollipop) Although Samsung don't have an update for this, there are ways of installing it yourself: https://www.nextpit.com/how-to-get-a...sung-galaxy-s4 That looks a bit above my paygrade. Does anyone offer this service? Have Googled, but no help there. And looked on Ebay. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, There will no doubt be manual ways to achieve the result without a smartphone, however path of least resistance and all that! what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Moto does ok for me, but there are other mid range good value options out there these days. "Good camera" tends to be quite a broad definition now - some phones take the camera aspect to the extreme. The S4 has an excellent snapshot camera, which I use a great deal. Perhaps the main reason I bought it in the first place. I would be tempted to wait. You're not going to be the only one in this position, and your local phone shop may well become wise to the need and the route to upgrading the system. The important thing is to know there is a route to the upgrade and can be done successfully. |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:05:02 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: snip Although Samsung don't have an update for this, there are ways of installing it yourself: https://www.nextpit.com/how-to-get-a...sung-galaxy-s4 That looks a bit above my paygrade. Is that the right term? Shouldn't it be 'Outside my skillset' or similar? I have followed such things before with success and might be convinced to try doing so on my S4 (for you / me) to see 1) How easy it is 2) what I get once it's done (I know I should get a good phone running a more up-to-date OS but such things often come with a catch where even a small one can be a dealbreaker) and 3), how likely it is to completely brick the phone forever, or if it could be recovered under all circumstances (even if it cost something (within reason) etc)? Does anyone offer this service? I'm sure many 'corner' Phone Shops and phone geeks might, I'll ask mine. You could also ask on uk.telecom.mobile as there may be such near you (private person who would do it for a drink or shop). snip The S4 has an excellent snapshot camera, which I use a great deal. Agreed, that said, I think the S7 camera is better but the S4 still better than many at the time. Perhaps the main reason I bought it in the first place. For me it was a pleasant surprise, over and above a good 'phone'. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote:
On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) +1. You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. |
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On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. Don't do anything too rash - I don't think its the NHS track and trace app that they are talking about but a much older one - has been about for some time and has been used to book some Drs appointments for a while. This may have lower requirements than the track and trace app. Ie this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...line.nhsonline not this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d19.production -- Chris B (News) |
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Tim Streater wrote:
On 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03:56 BST, Andrew wrote: On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) +1. You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. Yes, why can't we have something like that? It would have to be updated a bit to make it more difficult to forge/fake but otherwise should be OK. At the moment I still don't understand how one's "vaccine passport" (on a phone, or a piece of paper, or whatever) is going to be validated. The old yellow fever (and other) ones were officially stamped at the time one was vaccinated but there seems to be no similar system to 'prove' one has been Covid-19 vaccinated. -- Chris Green · |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
"Chris Green" wrote in message ... Tim Streater wrote: On 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03:56 BST, Andrew wrote: On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) +1. You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. Yes, why can't we have something like that? It would have to be updated a bit to make it more difficult to forge/fake but otherwise should be OK. At the moment I still don't understand how one's "vaccine passport" (on a phone, or a piece of paper, or whatever) is going to be validated. Same way that electronic passports and drivers licenses are, confirm with a central database. The old yellow fever (and other) ones were officially stamped at the time one was vaccinated but there seems to be no similar system to 'prove' one has been Covid-19 vaccinated. Thats what the electronic vaccine passport does. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 29/04/2021 14:39, Tim Streater wrote:
On 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03:56 BST, Andrew wrote: On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) +1. You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. I stuck my yellow fever certificate in the back of my passport, but it expired after 10 year, from what I recollect. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
%% wrote:
"Chris Green" wrote in message You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. Yes, why can't we have something like that? It would have to be updated a bit to make it more difficult to forge/fake but otherwise should be OK. At the moment I still don't understand how one's "vaccine passport" (on a phone, or a piece of paper, or whatever) is going to be validated. Same way that electronic passports and drivers licenses are, confirm with a central database. Confirm *what* with a "central database"? The DVLA's purpose is to know about my driving license and what's on it. Is there a similar place where one can find out who has been inoculated against what? I'm not totally convinced that the NHS is capable of doing this, it's very difficult often to get records from one hospital to another or from one's GP to hospital and vice versa. Given that Covid-19 inoculations may be given by different organisations will they really all be recorded in one, accessible, place? The old yellow fever (and other) ones were officially stamped at the time one was vaccinated but there seems to be no similar system to 'prove' one has been Covid-19 vaccinated. Thats what the electronic vaccine passport does. No one 'offically stamped' anything that I was aware of when I got my Covid-19 inoculation. Maybe they did but the checking of identity wasn't very rigorous, nothing like the requirements for a passport. .... and how do you prove you are who you say you are from your mobile phone? -- Chris Green · |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
Andrew wrote:
On 29/04/2021 14:39, Tim Streater wrote: On 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03:56 BST, Andrew wrote: On 28/04/2021 17:10, GB wrote: On 28/04/2021 16:08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. The NHS app uses a system that was jointly developed by Google and Apple. It needs a minimum of Android 6. Which version does your phone have? I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. You don't *need* a new phone. Staycationing is a great idea. :) +1. You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. I stuck my yellow fever certificate in the back of my passport, but it expired after 10 year, from what I recollect. Yellow Fever inoculations now last 'for ever' so it's valid past it's expiry date. -- Chris Green · |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
"Chris Green" wrote in message ... %% wrote: "Chris Green" wrote in message You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. Yes, why can't we have something like that? It would have to be updated a bit to make it more difficult to forge/fake but otherwise should be OK. At the moment I still don't understand how one's "vaccine passport" (on a phone, or a piece of paper, or whatever) is going to be validated. Same way that electronic passports and drivers licenses are, confirm with a central database. Confirm *what* with a "central database"? That its a real passport and that the photo etc has not been changed. The DVLA's I wasnt talking about UK DVLAs, digital driver's licenses in general. purpose is to know about my driving license and what's on it. Is there a similar place where one can find out who has been inoculated against what? In some countries, yep. I'm not totally convinced that the NHS is capable of doing this, it's very difficult often to get records from one hospital to another or from one's GP to hospital and vice versa. But easy enough to fix that with vaccination. Given that Covid-19 inoculations may be given by different organisations will they really all be recorded in one, accessible, place? No reason why that can't be done as with driver's licenses and passports. The old yellow fever (and other) ones were officially stamped at the time one was vaccinated but there seems to be no similar system to 'prove' one has been Covid-19 vaccinated. Thats what the electronic vaccine passport does. No one 'offically stamped' anything that I was aware of when I got my Covid-19 inoculation. Maybe they did but the checking of identity wasn't very rigorous, nothing like the requirements for a passport. Again, that can be changed. ... and how do you prove you are who you say you are from your mobile phone? Using your fingerprint or face id. |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 29/04/2021 14:39, Tim Streater wrote:
On 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03:56 BST, Andrew You don't need a vaccine passport, just like you don't need an internet connection. It helps, and definately makes modern life easier, but it is not essential. I still have my vaccine passport as issued by WHO 50 years ago, with my Yellow Fever etc jabs duly noted in it. Me too, in with all my old passports. |
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NHS app and vaccination passport.
%% wrote:
Given that Covid-19 inoculations may be given by different organisations will they really all be recorded in one, accessible, place? No reason why that can't be done as with driver's licenses and passports. No reason it *can't* be done, no, but *has* it been done? The old yellow fever (and other) ones were officially stamped at the time one was vaccinated but there seems to be no similar system to 'prove' one has been Covid-19 vaccinated. Thats what the electronic vaccine passport does. No one 'offically stamped' anything that I was aware of when I got my Covid-19 inoculation. Maybe they did but the checking of identity wasn't very rigorous, nothing like the requirements for a passport. Again, that can be changed. Yes, but my question was how is this going to work *now* as everyone seems to think is possible sort of instantly? ... and how do you prove you are who you say you are from your mobile phone? Using your fingerprint or face id. That assumes that 'they' already know your fingerprint/face, not necessarily true for quite a lot of people. For Covid-19 'passports' the requirement is that there is a record of your inoculation somewhere that is *already* identified by (according to you) my face/fingerprint. I don't believe there are records like this anywhere. -- Chris Green · |
NHS app and vaccination passport.
On 28/04/2021 22:12, newshound wrote:
On 28/04/2021 16:44, HVS wrote: On 28 Apr 2021, Dave Plowman (News) wrote Heard on the news they're likely to use the NHS track and trace app as a vaccine passport. My phone is a Galaxy S4. Works just fine as a phone and camera and the things I want a phone for. But too old for the NHS app - which was presumably written by a pal of BoJo, given I can't see what's so special about it that it needs the latest phones. I use the mobile so little for outgoing calls I'm happy with PAYG. And BT hotspot Wi-Fi access round London, for my parking app, etc. If I do have to buy a new phone, what is going to be the best value? With at least as good a camera. I like the Motorola phones;* they come out quite high in the ratings of value for money. A heap of years ago when my Galaxy S3 got too old (only had 3G), I bought a Moto G4 plus.* Was happy with that, so when it started acting up after another few years, I stayed with them (Moto G8 plus), and have been happy with it.* Both of the phones were good value -- the G8 plus cost Ł180 last December. Can't advise on the camera -- ISTR it was well reviewed and it's absolutely fine for me, but I don't use it all that much (so I'm not particularly fussy about side of things). Me too for Motorola. I've had several, currently a G8. Don't use the camera for anything serious though. You need a reasonably good camera - with autofocus - to read the QR codes that these apps use for various things. -- Max Demian |
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