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ARW April 22nd 21 07:12 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg

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Andy Burns[_13_] April 22nd 21 07:21 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
ARW wrote:

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A couple of gallons of brick acid, it'll be alright ...


williamwright April 22nd 21 07:29 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


10/10 for effort, 0/10 for results.

Bill

SH[_4_] April 22nd 21 08:30 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg



Who is Yosser Hughes?

Jeff Layman[_2_] April 22nd 21 08:32 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


"I could do that"...

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soup[_7_] April 22nd 21 08:42 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


"Boys from the blackstuff". He was so willing to do anything that he
would say he could do it even if he had never seen an item being done
before.
" Go oan gies a job. I can do that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObZJN9zDtA

Jeff Layman[_2_] April 22nd 21 08:55 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg



Who is Yosser Hughes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes

You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer, unfortunately.

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ARW April 22nd 21 09:12 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 20:55, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg



Who is Yosser Hughes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes

You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer, unfortunately.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc57s

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc6k4

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SH[_4_] April 22nd 21 09:20 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 20:42, soup wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


"Boys from the blackstuff".Â* He was so willing to do anything that he
would say he could do it even if he had never seen an item being done
before.
" Go oan gies a job. I can do that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObZJN9zDtA



Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?

ARW April 22nd 21 09:42 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:42, soup wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


"Boys from the blackstuff".Â* He was so willing to do anything that he
would say he could do it even if he had never seen an item being done
before.
" Go oan gies a job. I can do that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObZJN9zDtA



Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?


Acting the ****** on purpose?

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SH[_4_] April 23rd 21 06:24 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:42, soup wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg

Who is Yosser Hughes?

"Boys from the blackstuff".Â* He was so willing to do anything that he
would say he could do it even if he had never seen an item being done
before.
" Go oan gies a job. I can do that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObZJN9zDtA



Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?


Acting the ****** on purpose?



I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?

S.

Jeff Layman[_2_] April 23rd 21 07:47 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 21:12, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:55, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg



Who is Yosser Hughes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes

You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer, unfortunately.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc57s

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc6k4


I see they've got all five of the BFTB episodes. Bookmarked for future
viewing.

--

Jeff

Chris J Dixon April 23rd 21 07:55 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
SH wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:


Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?


Acting the ****** on purpose?


I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?


Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?

Chris
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#Paul April 23rd 21 08:03 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
SH wrote:
I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?


Goodness. You are so old that you don't know how to do
a search on the internet!?

#Paul

jon April 23rd 21 09:07 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:55:46 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

SH wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:


Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?

Acting the ****** on purpose?


I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?


Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?

Chris


A tv programme showing a team of scousers as they really are.

Andy Bennet[_2_] April 23rd 21 09:09 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Is it level?

Mark Carver April 23rd 21 09:27 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 09:18, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 09:07:31 BST, jon wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:55:46 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

SH wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:

Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?

Acting the ****** on purpose?
I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?

Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?

Chris

A tv programme showing a team of scousers as they really are.

When were these broadcast originally?

1982

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 23rd 21 09:50 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 09:27, Mark Carver wrote:
On 23/04/2021 09:18, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 09:07:31 BST, jon wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:55:46 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

Â* SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
Â* On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:
Â* Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?
Â* Acting the ****** on purpose?
I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?
Â* Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?
Â* Chris
A tv programme showing a team of scousers as they really are.

When were these broadcast originally?

1982


Ah. I wasn't in the country then

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Robin April 23rd 21 10:23 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


I couldn't do that.

Any remake should have a role for Yosser's less competent apprentice.

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Andrew[_22_] April 23rd 21 11:22 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 19:29, williamwright wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


10/10 for effort, 0/10 for results.

Bill


Well at least the brick courses are level and not following
the slope of the pavement.

Apart from the gate pier, how many pillars are there behind what
we can see ?.


Andrew[_22_] April 23rd 21 11:26 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/04/2021 09:27, Mark Carver wrote:
On 23/04/2021 09:18, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 09:07:31 BST, jon wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 07:55:46 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

Â* SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
Â* On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:
Â* Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?
Â* Acting the ****** on purpose?
I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?
Â* Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?
Â* Chris
A tv programme showing a team of scousers as they really are.
When were these broadcast originally?

1982


Ah. I wasn't in the country then


Are you an illegal immigrant then ?.

www.GymRatZ.co.uk[_2_] April 23rd 21 12:22 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 06:24, SH wrote:

I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?



Gypsies from Liverpool.


tim...[_2_] April 23rd 21 03:28 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 


"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
On 22/04/2021 21:12, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:55, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg



Who is Yosser Hughes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes

You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer,
unfortunately.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc57s

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc6k4


I see they've got all five of the BFTB episodes. Bookmarked for future
viewing.


you better be quick, now it's announced that they are there, they wont be
for long



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tim...[_2_] April 23rd 21 03:28 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 


"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


"I could do that"...


I'm actually quire impressed with it

it's much better than I could do




soup[_7_] April 23rd 21 04:52 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:42, soup wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


"Boys from the blackstuff".Â* He was so willing to do anything that he
would say he could do it even if he had never seen an item being done
before.
" Go oan gies a job. I can do that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObZJN9zDtA



Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?


Blackstuff is road surfacing material (Tarmac) originally they had
been a gang of labourers who topped roads (so not the brightest of bulbs
but willing [in some cases more than] to labour).

Peter Johnson[_4_] April 23rd 21 04:59 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:28:59 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


"I could do that"...


I'm actually quire impressed with it

it's much better than I could do

Down the road, some eastern Europeans are working on what I think will
be a block paved drive when they've finished, but they are being
really thorough with it, digging it out quite deeply. They've
alreadyspent three weeks on it and sent three skips of old tarmac and
earth out. And they've taken off the top layer of tarmac from the
pavement, which I guess was on the owner's instructions.
I've just seen them using a laser level, which I've never seen with
local paviers.
If it does finish up block paved it'll be suitable for parking a tank
I reckon.

Harry Bloomfield, Esq.[_2_] April 23rd 21 05:03 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard :
Ah. I wasn't in the country then


You need to watch it, it was a short series and very funny in a strange
sort of way.

JNugent[_7_] April 23rd 21 05:24 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 07:47 am, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:12, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:55, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:


http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes
You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer,
unfortunately.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc57s
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc6k4


I see they've got all five of the BFTB episodes. Bookmarked for future
viewing.


Try not to watch them without first having seen the original one-off
film "The Blackstuff" (hence "The Boys From").

It was shown (IIRC) in 1980. Written by the same writer and with largely
the same cast. It paints a background you need to know to get the most
out of TBFTB.

"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and travelling
by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for most of the
action).

The later series was set entirely back in Liverpool.

The DVD box set contains the original film as well as the series.




Adrian[_9_] April 23rd 21 06:26 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
In message , JNugent
writes
"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and
travelling by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for
most of the action).


IIRC the bulk of the action was somewhere on Teesside, not that it
alters the story at all.

Adrian
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ARW April 23rd 21 07:00 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 11:22, Andrew wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:29, williamwright wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


10/10 for effort, 0/10 for results.

Bill


Well at least the brick courses are level and not following
the slope of the pavement.

Apart from the gate pier, how many pillars are there behind what
we can see ?.



None that I could see.

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ARW April 23rd 21 07:26 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 18:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , JNugent
writes
"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and
travelling by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for
most of the action).


IIRC the bulk of the action was somewhere on Teesside, not that it
alters the story at all.



The wall Yosser badly built was filmed in Liverpool. It was the building
site of a new hospital at the end of Edgeware Road.
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Andrew[_22_] April 23rd 21 08:00 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 18:38, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 16:59:22 BST, Peter Johnson
wrote:
If it does finish up block paved it'll be suitable for parking a tank.


Perhaps that's the idea.


Could be a SUDS-compliant system. House up the road from me had
this done. There is about 18 inches of something larger than pea-
shingle supporting the blocks which have bigger 'nibs' and are
surrounded by granular material in the larger gap twixt blocks.

ARW April 23rd 21 09:50 PM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 07:55, Chris J Dixon wrote:
SH wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:42, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 21:20, SH wrote:


Whats "Boys from the Blackstuff"?

Acting the ****** on purpose?


I've genuinely never heard of the "Boys from the blackstuff"

Perhaps we are from two different generations?


Maybe, but you must have heard of Google?



:-)



--
Adam

Steve Walker[_5_] April 24th 21 12:25 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 18:38, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 16:59:22 BST, Peter Johnson
wrote:
If it does finish up block paved it'll be suitable for parking a tank.


Perhaps that's the idea.


Maybe not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNQbwWP3hQ




JNugent[_7_] April 24th 21 01:57 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 07:26 pm, ARW wrote:
On 23/04/2021 18:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , JNugent
writes
"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and
travelling by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for
most of the action).


IIRC the bulk of the action was somewhere on Teesside, not that it
alters the story at all.

The wall Yosser badly built was filmed in Liverpool.


All of the series was made in Liverpool. Offhand, I can't think of a
scene set elsewhere.

It was the building
site of a new hospital at the end of Edgeware Road.


:-)

Not quite!

The hospital is on the other side of the main road. There is no Edgeware
Road (nor even an Edgware Road) in Liverpool.

I am familiar with the location (Prescot Street, L7) - it was very local
to us as children. AAMOF, the building in whose "grounds" the wall was
erected (and inside which was the balustrade to which an escape rope was
attached) was the old Harper Street Police Station and Bridewell, on a
familiar route from primary school to the local woodwork centre a half
mile away.

Rod Speed April 24th 21 03:40 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 


"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On 23/04/2021 18:38, Tim Streater wrote:
On 23 Apr 2021 at 16:59:22 BST, Peter Johnson
wrote:
If it does finish up block paved it'll be suitable for parking a tank.


Perhaps that's the idea.


Maybe not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNQbwWP3hQ


Thats not a tank, its a bridge. Unlike they need one where he is.


ARW April 24th 21 06:49 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 24/04/2021 01:57, JNugent wrote:
On 23/04/2021 07:26 pm, ARW wrote:
On 23/04/2021 18:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , JNugent
writes
"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and
travelling by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for
most of the action).


IIRC the bulk of the action was somewhere on Teesside, not that it
alters the story at all.

The wall Yosser badly built was filmed in Liverpool.


All of the series was made in Liverpool. Offhand, I can't think of a
scene set elsewhere.

It was the building site of a new hospital at the end of Edgeware Road.


:-)

Not quite!

The hospital is on the other side of the main road. There is no Edgeware
Road (nor even an Edgware Road) in Liverpool.

I am familiar with the location (Prescot Street, L7) - it was very local
to us as children. AAMOF, the building in whose "grounds" the wall was
erected (and inside which was the balustrade to which an escape rope was
attached) was the old Harper Street Police Station and Bridewell, on a
familiar route from primary school to the local woodwork centre a half
mile away.


Ta. And it is 30 years since I was last the-)

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ARW April 24th 21 06:51 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 24/04/2021 01:57, JNugent wrote:
On 23/04/2021 07:26 pm, ARW wrote:
On 23/04/2021 18:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , JNugent
writes
"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and
travelling by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for
most of the action).


IIRC the bulk of the action was somewhere on Teesside, not that it
alters the story at all.

The wall Yosser badly built was filmed in Liverpool.


All of the series was made in Liverpool. Offhand, I can't think of a
scene set elsewhere.

It was the building site of a new hospital at the end of Edgeware Road.


:-)

Not quite!

The hospital is on the other side of the main road. There is no Edgeware
Road (nor even an Edgware Road) in Liverpool.

Edge Lane?


--
Adam

Jeff Layman[_2_] April 24th 21 08:27 AM

Yosser Hughes is alive and well
 
On 23/04/2021 17:24, JNugent wrote:
On 23/04/2021 07:47 am, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 22/04/2021 21:12, ARW wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:55, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/04/2021 20:30, SH wrote:
On 22/04/2021 19:12, ARW wrote:


http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:****wall.jpg


Who is Yosser Hughes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosser_Hughes
You won't see a finer acting performance than Bernard Hill as Yosser
Hughes in "Yosser's Story". It's not available on iPlayer,
unfortunately.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc57s
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fc6k4


I see they've got all five of the BFTB episodes. Bookmarked for future
viewing.


Try not to watch them without first having seen the original one-off
film "The Blackstuff" (hence "The Boys From").

It was shown (IIRC) in 1980. Written by the same writer and with largely
the same cast. It paints a background you need to know to get the most
out of TBFTB.


I saw the original and the series that followed when it was first shown
in the early 80s.

The original was shown on BBC4 last November. I've still got the
recording, so I'll watch that first.

Although all the episodes had their amusing bits, they were, if I
remember correctly, very hard watching at times, particularly "Yosser's
Story". Light entertainment it most certainly wasn't!

"The Blackstuff" depicted the gang mustering in Liverpool and travelling
by crewbus to Yorkshire (Leeds, I think - the setting for most of the
action).

The later series was set entirely back in Liverpool.

The DVD box set contains the original film as well as the series.


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