Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

It's not needed any more. You go to the DVLA website to view your
driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.

--
Max Demian

On 18/03/2021 16:45, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

It's not needed any more.

It's not even issued any more.

You go to the DVLA website to view your
driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.



--
Colin Bignell

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Andy Burns wrote:
jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.


Somewhere I still have my little red book with my provisional licence.

Tim

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Please don't feed the trolls

In article ,
jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not seen mine for decades.

Mine had to be renewed due to age. New one is credit card sized with mug
shot

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article
,
Tim+ wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.


Somewhere I still have my little red book with my provisional licence.

Tim

mine's brown

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 18/03/2021 17:16, Tim Streater wrote:
On 18 Mar 2021 at 16:49:20 GMT, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Where's yer plastic bit with the mug and profile shot?


I was plastic free until 70. Easy if you don't change address or
surrender your licence.

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

On 18/03/2021 16:49, Andy Burns wrote:
jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

And in Wales it is bilingual, so even more entire

On 18/03/2021 17:45, charles wrote:

mine's brown

You can get tablets for that. ;O)

On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022
last change of address 1996

On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)

On 18/03/2021 18:12, Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I
have not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)
nothing is guaranteed in this life ...

On 18/03/2021 16:52, Tim+ wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.


Somewhere I still have my little red book with my provisional licence.

Tim

me too 1968

On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022
I used to laugh when I saw that date....not laughing now....tee hee

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:49:20 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Same here (well, I think I still have the entire thing). ;-)

It's fun getting those that want to see it to fit it back together and
if they can it proves to me they aren't a bot. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

In article ,
Robin wrote:
On 18/03/2021 17:16, Tim Streater wrote:
On 18 Mar 2021 at 16:49:20 GMT, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Where's yer plastic bit with the mug and profile shot?


I was plastic free until 70. Easy if you don't change address or
surrender your licence.

or get 'booked'.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 18/03/2021 18:47, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:49:20 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Same here (well, I think I still have the entire thing). ;-)

It's fun getting those that want to see it to fit it back together and
if they can it proves to me they aren't a bot. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

I was stopped near Miami one night, for driving too fast in a workzone
(apparently there's an automatic speed limit in such areas). When I
offered my dilapidated paper licence the cop was not impressed - after a
while he gave up with it and gruffly told me to go. It probably didn't
help that, naively, I'd left the car and walked towards the police car -
gulp!

charles wrote:

Robin wrote:

I was plastic free until 70. Easy if you don't change address or
surrender your licence.

or get 'booked'.

Mine was sent off to have some points added about 20 years ago, it came
back with them scribbled on in biro, were plastic licences a thing back
then?

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:58:00 +0000, wrote:

snip

Same here (well, I think I still have the entire thing). ;-)

It's fun getting those that want to see it to fit it back together and
if they can it proves to me they aren't a bot. ;-)

I was stopped near Miami one night,

Name dropper ... in the Lambo or the Ferrari were you? ;-)

for driving too fast in a workzone
(apparently there's an automatic speed limit in such areas).

You live and learn etc. Is it the same idea as our 'Built up areas'?

When I
offered my dilapidated paper licence the cop was not impressed - after a
while he gave up with it and gruffly told me to go.

Hehe. I think we are obliged to ensure it's not 'defaced' or damaged
and I have though about sending it off for the new style one as it
would be handy to use them as 'Photo ID'.

It probably didn't
help that, naively, I'd left the car and walked towards the police car -
gulp!

Oh, so a 'no no' then, seen as a potential form of aggression?

I (like you potentially) would have thought getting out 'normally' and
meeting them half way would indicate you don't intend driving off and
showing some consideration / compliance (given we can't legally own
carry hand guns etc)?

I can see why maybe in places where you can, it might be safer for
them if you stayed sitting in your vehicle (especially if it was just
a car, rather than a pickup or truck).

Cheers, T i m

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:18:10 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 18/03/2021 18:12, Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I
have not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)
nothing is guaranteed in this life ...

I don't think anyone was looking for a guarantee, just a general idea?
;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 18/03/2021 19:08, Andy Burns wrote:
charles wrote:

Robin wrote:

I was plastic free until 70.Â* Easy if you don't change address or
surrender your licence.

or get 'booked'.

Mine was sent off to have some points added about 20 years ago, it came
back with them scribbled on in biro, were plastic licences a thing back
then?


yes - but with the paper counterpart which showed entitlements and was
sent off for endorsements

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

"Robin" wrote in message
...
On 18/03/2021 17:16, Tim Streater wrote:
On 18 Mar 2021 at 16:49:20 GMT, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence

Never mind a paper bit, I have a paper entire thing.

Where's yer plastic bit with the mug and profile shot?


I was plastic free until 70. Easy if you don't change address or
surrender your licence.

My parents have been at their present address since 1977. I *think* they
have plastic licences. I've never though to ask, because I assumed (fatal!)
that at some stage plastic photo licences had been rolled out to everyone.
Can people *choose* to get a plastic licence even if there is no actual
requirement for one to be issued when an address change.

I'm sure I received a letter from DVLA pointing out the advantages of a
plastic licence (use as de-facto ID in lieu of the national ID card that the
UK does not have) etc.

What about people who passed their test when red booklet licences were still
being used? Were those replaced by the computer-printed paper ones, or was
that also only done when the address changed or endorsements/points needed
to be added?

On 18/03/2021 21:35, NY wrote:

Can people *choose* to get a plastic licence even if there
is no actual requirement for one to be issued when an address change.

Yes, tjis is what I did many years ago.

The photo on your passport and the one on your driving license can be
the same.

I renewed my license a few weeks ago and they used the photo from my
passport which was renewed two years ago. I filled in my details
on-line on a Sunday evening and had my new driving license the next
Wednesday through the post.



--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 18/03/2021 18:12, Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)

nothing is guaranteed in this life ...

Its guaranteed that you will die sometime...

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:04:15 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On 18/03/2021 19:29, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:18:10 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 18/03/2021 18:12, Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I
have not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)
nothing is guaranteed in this life ...

I don't think anyone was looking for a guarantee, just a general idea?
;-)

Cheers, T i m

not even that

On 18/03/2021 23:04, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 18/03/2021 18:12, Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2021 18:10, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I
have not
seen mine for decades.

I only have my old paper one...expires 2022

Will you last that long though ? :-)

nothing is guaranteed in this life ...

Its guaranteed that you will die sometime...
no **** Sherlock

On 18/03/2021 19:28, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:58:00 +0000, wrote:

snip

Same here (well, I think I still have the entire thing). ;-)

It's fun getting those that want to see it to fit it back together and
if they can it proves to me they aren't a bot. ;-)

I was stopped near Miami one night,

Name dropper ... in the Lambo or the Ferrari were you? ;-)

for driving too fast in a workzone
(apparently there's an automatic speed limit in such areas).

You live and learn etc. Is it the same idea as our 'Built up areas'?

When I
offered my dilapidated paper licence the cop was not impressed - after a
while he gave up with it and gruffly told me to go.

Hehe. I think we are obliged to ensure it's not 'defaced' or damaged
and I have though about sending it off for the new style one as it
would be handy to use them as 'Photo ID'.

It probably didn't
help that, naively, I'd left the car and walked towards the police car -
gulp!

Oh, so a 'no no' then, seen as a potential form of aggression?

I (like you potentially) would have thought getting out 'normally' and
meeting them half way would indicate you don't intend driving off and
showing some consideration / compliance (given we can't legally own
carry hand guns etc)?

I can see why maybe in places where you can, it might be safer for
them if you stayed sitting in your vehicle (especially if it was just
a car, rather than a pickup or truck).

Cheers, T i m

costs money and I'm cheap

On 18/03/2021 19:28, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:58:00 +0000, wrote:

snip

Same here (well, I think I still have the entire thing). ;-)

It's fun getting those that want to see it to fit it back together and
if they can it proves to me they aren't a bot. ;-)

I was stopped near Miami one night,

Name dropper ... in the Lambo or the Ferrari were you? ;-)
Sadly, it was the hire car that I'd just picked-up at the airport.

for driving too fast in a workzone
(apparently there's an automatic speed limit in such areas).

You live and learn etc. Is it the same idea as our 'Built up areas'?

When I
offered my dilapidated paper licence the cop was not impressed - after a
while he gave up with it and gruffly told me to go.

Hehe. I think we are obliged to ensure it's not 'defaced' or damaged
and I have though about sending it off for the new style one as it
would be handy to use them as 'Photo ID'.
I yielded and changed to a laminated one quite a while ago.

It probably didn't
help that, naively, I'd left the car and walked towards the police car -
gulp!

Oh, so a 'no no' then, seen as a potential form of aggression?

I (like you potentially) would have thought getting out 'normally' and
meeting them half way would indicate you don't intend driving off and
showing some consideration / compliance (given we can't legally own
carry hand guns etc)?
It was night time. As soon as I opened the door a spotlight was
switched-on and, as I started walking, I realised that one guy was
behind a door and had a gun while the other guy was holding back. Self
preservation kicked-in so I stopped and started speaking in a "slightly
affected" English accent, things then relaxed a little.

I can see why maybe in places where you can, it might be safer for
them if you stayed sitting in your vehicle (especially if it was just
a car, rather than a pickup or truck).
I discussed this in work later and all the locals were astonished I'd
left the car. I was told the rule is stay in the vehicle with hands on
the wheel.

Cheers, T i m

On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:
Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

For those that still have an old style paper licence (or before) and
haven't migrated to the credit-card sized photo style, if they want to
drive in the EU, it might be easier to upgrade now (either that or get
an IDP)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47459859

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:19:01 +0000, wrote:

snip

I was stopped near Miami one night,

Name dropper ... in the Lambo or the Ferrari were you? ;-)

Sadly, it was the hire car that I'd just picked-up at the airport.

Doh. ;-)

for driving too fast in a workzone

snip

Hehe. I think we are obliged to ensure it's not 'defaced' or damaged
and I have though about sending it off for the new style one as it
would be handy to use them as 'Photo ID'.

I yielded and changed to a laminated one quite a while ago.

Yeah, I think I should as well.

snip

It was night time. As soon as I opened the door a spotlight was
switched-on and, as I started walking, I realised that one guy was
behind a door and had a gun while the other guy was holding back.

Feck.

Self
preservation kicked-in so I stopped and started speaking in a "slightly
affected" English accent, things then relaxed a little.

Phew.

I can see why maybe in places where you can, it might be safer for
them if you stayed sitting in your vehicle (especially if it was just
a car, rather than a pickup or truck).

I discussed this in work later and all the locals were astonished I'd
left the car. I was told the rule is stay in the vehicle with hands on
the wheel.

Ah, like you see on the telly. ;-)

The thing is, most of us not (knowingly) doing anything wrong don't
think like they have to because in most cases the people they are
stopping have done something wrong and so are likely to be aggressive?

Cheers, T i m

On 19/03/2021 07:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

costs money and I'm cheap

I was watching Homes under the Hammer at 10:40-ish and
Martin was filming in Renfrewshire at the old fire
station that looks like a gothic castle (which had
been sold at auction for just £49K !!!) when a red
mustang with two black stripes front to back over the
bonnet, drove past. It was a repeat of an old program
circa 2015??. Was that your car ?.

On 19/03/2021 12:44, Andrew wrote:
On 19/03/2021 07:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

costs money and I'm cheap

I was watching Homes under the Hammer at 10:40-ish and
Martin was filming in Renfrewshire at the old fire
station that looks like a gothic castle (which had
been sold at auction for just £49K !!!) when a red
mustang with two black stripes front to back over the
bonnet, drove past. It was a repeat of an old program
circa 2015??. Was that your car ?.


no

On 18/03/2021 01:49 pm, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

Yes, here for one.

Filed away with MOT certificates, registration documents, insurance
certificates, receipts for spares, servicing and repairs, etc.

Where?

How do you expect me to know?

That's the job of domestic management,

On 18/03/2021 04:45 pm, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have
not
seen mine for decades.

It's not needed any more. You go to the DVLA website to view your
driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.

Fact: They *never* ask for that in the USA.

On 21/03/2021 13:45, JNugent wrote:
On 18/03/2021 04:45 pm, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I have not
seen mine for decades.

It's not needed any more. You go to the DVLA website to view your driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.

Fact: They *never* ask for that in the USA.

In times BC but since the DVLA invented the code system I've rented cars in several countries but never been asked for it. If the overseas car hire companies know about this unique-to-the-UK feature they may think it not worth the bother. Actually I'm not certain is is unique to us but have never come across other countries with a similar system.

--
Clive Page

On 21/03/2021 13:45, JNugent wrote:
On 18/03/2021 04:45 pm, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/03/2021 13:49, jon wrote:

Do people still have the paper bit of their UK driving licence, I
have not
seen mine for decades.

It's not needed any more. You go to the DVLA website to view your
driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.

Fact: They *never* ask for that in the USA.

Do they not have penalty points for driving violations? Maybe hire
companies just assume you're as bad as can be and charge accordingly.

--
Max Demian

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
It's not needed any more. You go to the DVLA website to view your
driving record or get a code so, e.g., a car hire company can view it.
Fact: They *never* ask for that in the USA.

Do they not have penalty points for driving violations? Maybe hire
companies just assume you're as bad as can be and charge accordingly.

No, they fine you and get you to go to traffic school (or the fine
doubles).

So in the USA, is your offence "spent" as soon as you have paid the fine
and/or gone on the course? Do they not have the concept of penalising you if
you accumulate a large number of offences *within a given period of time* -
is every offence treated in isolation?