tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password for
his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout
after ten password entry attempts.

Paul

"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password for
his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...sb-flash-drive




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On 20/01/2021 10:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 22:05:12 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...rives/ironkey-
s1000-encrypted-usb-flash-drive

Personally I have my doubts as to whether anything you but - especially
when they don't release the code - is truly safe from GCHQ.

Even if they *do* release the code, that is no guarantee its not
hackable. (there are often "side channel" attacks that will work against
the hardware that don't rely on flaws in the code).

Its always a case of "know your enemy". Keeping out casual snoopers,
skilled security researchers, enterprise level funded cryptanalysts, and
nation state level funded operatives are typically very different
propositions.


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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 22:05:12 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...rives/ironkey-
s1000-encrypted-usb-flash-drive

Personally I have my doubts as to whether anything you but - especially
when they don't release the code - is truly safe from GCHQ.

I dont given that even the FBI made a spectacular fool
of itself trying to force Apple to decrypt an iphone.

On 20/01/2021 17:48, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 22:05:12 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...rives/ironkey-
s1000-encrypted-usb-flash-drive

Personally I have my doubts as to whether anything you but - especially
when they don't release the code - is truly safe from GCHQ.

I dont given that even the FBI made a spectacular fool
of itself trying to force Apple to decrypt an iphone.

And Apple were made a fool of when a third party decrypted the phone data.

Apples policy is now to allow US agencies access to phone data:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

On 20/01/2021 18:09, Fredxx wrote:
On 20/01/2021 17:48, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 22:05:12 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...rives/ironkey-
s1000-encrypted-usb-flash-drive

Personally I have my doubts as to whether anything you but - especially
when they don't release the code - is truly safe from GCHQ.

I dont given that even the FBI made a spectacular fool
of itself trying to force Apple to decrypt an iphone.

And Apple were made a fool of when a third party decrypted the phone data.

Apples policy is now to allow US agencies access to phone data:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

That is conflating a number of issues though - the original FBI request
was for backdoor access to the phones themselves, and also to unlock a
particular phone. Something that Apple (rightly IMHO) resisted since
backdoors work for bad guys as well as good.

The above article seems to be talking about access to data held in the
Apple cloud - which is s slightly different matter. Although even there
its seems that the FBI want access because its easy rather than strictly
necessary.





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"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 20/01/2021 17:48, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 22:05:12 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 19/01/2021 17:24, tim... wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message
...
That is silly. Not the same bloke who cannot remember his password
for his bitcoins then?

no, a different guy

There are two different stories on the go, at the same time.

One involves a hard drive.

I think the other one involves an Ironkey with lockout

I haven't a clue what an Ironkey with lockout is

https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingd...rives/ironkey-
s1000-encrypted-usb-flash-drive

Personally I have my doubts as to whether anything you but - especially
when they don't release the code - is truly safe from GCHQ.

I dont given that even the FBI made a spectacular fool
of itself trying to force Apple to decrypt an iphone.

And Apple were made a fool of when a third party decrypted the phone data.

That exploit was only there on old phones and has been fixed.

Apples policy is now to allow US agencies access to phone data:

They dont get to do that when you encrypt it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

On 21/01/2021 11:38, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:09:49 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

On 20/01/2021 17:48, Rod Speed wrote:
[quoted text muted]

And Apple were made a fool of when a third party decrypted the phone
data.

Or claimed to.

I thought the FBI admitted in court that this was the case, or certainly
the case against Apple fell, because the FBI initially claimed they
couldn't hack the phone.

To be honest I was surprised the FBI couldn't as I thought the code was
4 alphanumerics, which is only 500,000 combinations. BICBW

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 04:48:20 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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