I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:
http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...5 1&keywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

Any ideas?


Peter Hawkins

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:04:36 +0100, Peter hawkins
wrote:

I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:
http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...5 1&keywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

Any ideas?


Peter Hawkins

A simple old fashioned rubber doorstop?

Subject: Restricting a door to open 90 degrees
From: Peter hawkins
Date: 07/09/04 12:04 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:

http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...t=59&pid=65 1
&keywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

I think you could make a metal bracket that screwed to the wall above the door
or to the door frame itself. Imagine something L shaped maybe 9" long on each
leg with a rubber door stop attached to the end of one arm. Open the door to
where you want it to stop. Position the bracket so the rubber stop is hard up
against the door and screw it into place. A standard shelf bracket would
probably do the job with a minor tweak or two and maybe a downwards bend in the
arm that sticks out from the wall.

Another alternative is to find out where the fully open door contacts the
wardrobe and screw a soft pad of some sort to the door itself.
--
Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines (www.pumaracing.co.uk)

On 07 Sep 2004 11:26:16 GMT, oEmails (Dave Baker)
wrote:

Subject: Restricting a door to open 90 degrees
From: Peter hawkins
Date: 07/09/04 12:04 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:

http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...t=59&pid=65 1
&keywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

I think you could make a metal bracket that screwed to the wall above the door
or to the door frame itself. Imagine something L shaped maybe 9" long on each
leg with a rubber door stop attached to the end of one arm. Open the door to
where you want it to stop. Position the bracket so the rubber stop is hard up
against the door and screw it into place. A standard shelf bracket would
probably do the job with a minor tweak or two and maybe a downwards bend in the
arm that sticks out from the wall.

Another alternative is to find out where the fully open door contacts the
wardrobe and screw a soft pad of some sort to the door itself.


Problem is that it's the internal door handle that contacts the glass,
guaranteed to shatter it. The frustrating thing is that both products
I mention above would do the trick, if only I could get hold of either
of them !

Peter hawkins wrote:

I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

You can use a floor mounted stop - all you need to do is drill a hole in
the laminate that is a few mm bigger than the screw(s) going through it.


--
Grunff

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:25:22 +0100, Grunff wrote:

Peter hawkins wrote:

I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

You can use a floor mounted stop - all you need to do is drill a hole in
the laminate that is a few mm bigger than the screw(s) going through it.


I was thinking of that but there would have to be some sort of spacer
such that screwing down the stop wouldn't grip the laminate against
the sub-floor, otherwise the stop couldn't be fixed tight and would
like as not come free with the sound of breaking glass !

In article ,
Peter hawkins wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:25:22 +0100, Grunff wrote:

Peter hawkins wrote:

I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

You can use a floor mounted stop - all you need to do is drill a hole in
the laminate that is a few mm bigger than the screw(s) going through it.

I was thinking of that but there would have to be some sort of spacer
such that screwing down the stop wouldn't grip the laminate against
the sub-floor, otherwise the stop couldn't be fixed tight and would
like as not come free with the sound of breaking glass !

Washers?

Or just glue the stopper to the laminate?

Gordon

Peter hawkins wrote:

I was thinking of that but there would have to be some sort of spacer
such that screwing down the stop wouldn't grip the laminate against
the sub-floor, otherwise the stop couldn't be fixed tight


Just screw it down tight. It will be fine. The laminate will still be
able to move sufficiently.


--
Grunff

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:04:36 +0100, Peter hawkins
wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions. Its just a pity, that US/Canadian
hinge stop would have been perfect !

Peter hawkins wrote:
I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

If you have enough depth on the frame, you could drill a vertical hole
and use a weighted cord with plate c/w a corresponding plate on the door...


Lee
--
Email address is valid, but is unlikely to be read.

"Peter hawkins" wrote in message
...
I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:
http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...5 1&keywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

Any ideas?


Peter Hawkins

Peter why don't you send an email to allmar and ask them for a sample of
their hinge pin stop.
They may just oblige - worth a try.

"Peter hawkins" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:04:36 +0100, Peter hawkins
wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions. Its just a pity, that US/Canadian
hinge stop would have been perfect !

Peter: I was thinking in terms of a piece of chain and two screw hooks, same
as we do, to not have our outside storm doors blow away. We put our doors on
a short leash when the midwinter Atlantic gales blow! We once had a fairly
lightweight aluminium/glass storm door blow back against the house and
smash. The imprint of its door handle was impressed into the pine lapboard
siding! So when I build a shed I make a wooden door storm door!
Metal chain a bit noisy even if contained within a piece of plastic sleeving
or a section of an old bicycle inner tube!
Plastic chain probably not strong enough?
If you could give me reference (or pix) to that Canadian 'hinge stop' I
could go into one of our local building supply/hardware stores during the
next few days and see if I can find one for you.
This is a small city area some 1000 miles from larger Canadian population
centres, here in the east but most things seem to be available and prices
much the same as rest of North America.. Let me know.
Terry, just north of St. John's, Provincial Capital of the Province of
Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

"Peter hawkins" wrote in message
...
I have a door into a main bedroom behind which is a glass sliding
wardrobe door. The sliding door is at 90 degrees to the door wall and
is tight against the architrave. I cant use a standard door stop for
obvious reasons and I also can't use a floor mounted stop as the floor
is laminate and obviously needs to be free to move.

A couple of alternatives spring to mind.

1. Can I get hinges that restrict the opening to 90 degrees. I know
this would stress the frame but this door doesn't get thrown open,
this is just a last resort to save the glass.

2. I have seen hinge pin mounted door stops on US and Canadain sites:

http://www.allmar.com/productdetails...9&pid=65 1&ke
ywords=
but can't find a UK source.

3. I know that there are sliding rod door restrictors which fit
between the underside of the frame and the top of the door, but they
only seem to be for uPVC doors.

Any ideas?

Peter Hawkins

Peter could you not adapt the stays which hold horizontal cupboard doors
open. Door closers restrict the opening of a door to 90 degrees.
PJ