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Opening tight jar lids.
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've
checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams .... |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... Just hold it horizontally and pour some really hot water over the lid. Usually does the trick. |
Opening tight jar lids.
"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... Just hold it horizontally and pour some really hot water over the lid. Usually does the trick. Indeed. That's one of the many methods recommnded on the net. The point about my approach is that you don't need to take any additional measures - you carry on doing what you were doing before, only the other way round. Basically you can exert more turning force using the width of your hand on the glass than you can trying to concentrate all of your force in trying to turn a relatively narrow lid, Obviously the forces exerted by each hand balance only one is held rigid and the other exerts turning force michael adams .... relaively narrow lid |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Opening tight jar lids.
On Sunday, 8 November 2020 14:43:00 UTC, michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... Use your left hand (if you're right handed). Apparently it's something to do with the muscle structure in your arms. Jonathah |
Opening tight jar lids.
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 So they all work better than simply turning jar instead, do they ? I mean I don't know. I've always turned the lids, but my recent experience suggests that maybe I along with everyone else it seems has been doing it wrong all along. As there's nothing that readily comes up on Google about turning the jar instead. The only problem is, I don't really want to go round opening jars of stuff I don't need to open right now, hopefilly jars with really tight lids, just to find out if it was a one-off or not. michael adams .... michael adams .... |
Opening tight jar lids.
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michael adams wrote: "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 So they all work better than simply turning jar instead, do they ? I mean I don't know. I've always turned the lids, but my recent experience suggests that maybe I along with everyone else it seems has been doing it wrong all along. As there's nothing that readily comes up on Google about turning the jar instead. The only problem is, I don't really want to go round opening jars of stuff I don't need to open right now, hopefilly jars with really tight lids, just to find out if it was a one-off or not. Most of these things tend to assume the jar won't turn when you use them. Never did work that one out. I take a tight one to the workshop. Support it in the woodwork vice - not tight, obviously - and use a couple of strap wrenches, one to stop the jar turning, one to turn the lid. Most do open with Marigolds, though. ;-) -- *He's not dead - he's electroencephalographically challenged Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 08/11/2020 16:00, michael adams wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message these work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW So they all work better than simply turning jar instead, do they ? I didn't look at the others, but that lever-action one works incredibly well. It breaks the suction, and once that's done, the jar opens easily. |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. I've done it that way for as long as I can remember. As you say, much easier than trying to turn the lid. The same applies when opening champagne bottles without wanting to have the cork fly off - hold the cork firmly and slowly rotate the bottle. The gentle pop is less dramatic, but you don't lose any of the champagne. -- Colin Bignell |
Opening tight jar lids.
On Sunday, 8 November 2020 14:43:00 UTC, michael adams wrote:
And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. On a few occasions I've used a small nail* to put a hole in the lid and release the vacuum. Obviously this only works on things which are going to be consumed quickly where the jar is not needed to reclose, although a blob of insulation tape* can close the hole for a few days. *I'm sure /we/ all have such things in our kitchens. Owain |
Opening tight jar lids.
michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams For commercial jar lids, you use a can opener, the one with the triangle pointy bit on it, stick the pointy bit under the edge of the jar lid. Apply a distorting force, pulling the jar edge away from nominal position. This will break the seal and allow you to turn it with ease. Example of the can opener. The pointy end fits under the edge of the jar lid. The rolling radius of where the pointed part is bent, presses against the glass of the jar, while you apply force. That's the fulcrum. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/03...g?v=1598385093 Only apply enough force to distort the lid so that the vacuum seal is defeated, not enough to permanently damage the jar top and ruin it for home projects. A second method, is to strike the jar lid (one side) with the palm of your hand. This too can break the seal, but is a much less effective technique and not recommended. You strike the jar lid with heel of hand, then revert to unscrewing the lid and see if it's let go. There were some jars where this would work, and others where it took too many strikes to achieve a result. The triangle can opener always works, because you can just destroy the lid if so desired :-) Using the palm of your hand, if you strike it hard enough, you can take a chip out of the glass. Paul |
Opening tight jar lids.
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:44:19 PM UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk Must try one of those. One day in a fit of pique I ordered one of every type of jar opener available with free postage from China. ( when bored I like to surf ebay for small items from China with free postage. Items that are so cheap postage would preclude buying them from Amazon) Anyway they were all useless |
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wrote: On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:44:19 PM UTC, alan_m wrote: On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk Must try one of those. One day in a fit of pique I ordered one of every type of jar opener available with free postage from China. ( when bored I like to surf ebay for small items from China with free postage. Items that are so cheap postage would preclude buying them from Amazon) Anyway they were all useless Some year ago, I bought a 'strap wrench' for opening jars. Kitchen version rather than a car version. Works well. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote:
Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... We find that opening a 2 lb jar of marmalade is a two person job. The other half grips the jar with two hands and I grip the lid with two hands. If she's not around, I have to resort to using Magnus[1] which is similar to https://www.wish.com/product/5b471ec..._wcB&share=web and which we got from a charity shop for next to nothing. It can generate a lot or torque, but tends to slip off jars whose lids have sloping edges unless pressed firmly down while it's operating. [1] Called Magnus "I've started so I'll finish" because it whirs away for long after the lid is off, to get back to its rest position. -- Cheers, Roger |
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charles wrote: Some year ago, I bought a 'strap wrench' for opening jars. Kitchen version rather than a car version. Works well. Two are better. One to hold the jar, one to turn the lid. The real test is a large Baxter's baby beetroot jar. ;-) Or a large Tesco pickled cucumber one. -- *If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 14:04:26 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , charles wrote: Some year ago, I bought a 'strap wrench' for opening jars. Kitchen version rather than a car version. Works well. Two are better. One to hold the jar, one to turn the lid. The real test is a large Baxter's baby beetroot jar. ;-) Or a large Tesco pickled cucumber one. I've 2 of these; one is a bit longer than the standard jar opener but is still OK for removing the shroud from a tap (the shrouds on my taps are lightly lubed and finger tight) and the other somewhat bigger. Never needed them for jars as I've developed a couple techniques for opening even a tough 2 lb jar. In addition to the warming etc. mentioned up-thread, I'll let others have a go (warms and squeezes the lid a bit), hold the bottom of the jar so that axial force can be used (takes a bit of the pre-load off the thread) and have straight arms down between legs as the wrists are better able to cope. Also 'attack' it, after getting the feel for it as the shock loading is high. Mind, getting to the age...! -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 08/11/2020 16:33, S Viemeister wrote:
On 08/11/2020 16:00, michael adams wrote: "alan_m" wrote in message these work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW So they all work better than simply turning jar instead, do they ? I didn't look at the others, but that lever-action one works incredibly well. It breaks the suction, and once that's done, the jar opens easily. +0.1, works very well but overpriced. Use a hammer/nail. -- Adrian C |
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On 09/11/2020 11:00, charles wrote:
in article , fred wrote: On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:44:19 PM UTC, alan_m wrote: On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. These work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss https://youtu.be/M6wwLB6oIJ0?t=50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbfGm7dVA4 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk Must try one of those. One day in a fit of pique I ordered one of every type of jar opener available with free postage from China. ( when bored I like to surf ebay for small items from China with free postage. Items that are so cheap postage would preclude buying them from Amazon) Anyway they were all useless Some year ago, I bought a 'strap wrench' for opening jars. Kitchen version rather than a car version. Works well. 'er indoors had most varieties and still can't always manage. I introduced her to strap wrenches. But even those (including ones designed for kitchens) fail for her - and for me too! - on some jars where designers have decided the sides of the lids need to slope. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Adrian Caspersz wrote: On 08/11/2020 16:33, S Viemeister wrote: On 08/11/2020 16:00, michael adams wrote: "alan_m" wrote in message these work extremely well on a variety of jar lids https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lever-Actio.../dp/B0001IX9RW So they all work better than simply turning jar instead, do they ? I didn't look at the others, but that lever-action one works incredibly well. It breaks the suction, and once that's done, the jar opens easily. +0.1, works very well but overpriced. Use a hammer/nail. Very good - if you happen to knock over a jar after opening. ;-) -- *Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:21:49 +0000, Robin wrote:
Some year ago, I bought a 'strap wrench' for opening jars. Kitchen version rather than a car version. Works well. 'er indoors had most varieties and still can't always manage. I introduced her to strap wrenches. But even those (including ones designed for kitchens) fail for her - and for me too! - on some jars where designers have decided the sides of the lids need to slope. I found that slightly abrading the strap helped a lot - it removed the mold release. Then get the centre line of the strap on the acute edge of the slope. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:25:19 AM UTC, Roger Mills wrote:
On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... We find that opening a 2 lb jar of marmalade is a two person job. The other half grips the jar with two hands and I grip the lid with two hands.. If she's not around, I have to resort to using Magnus[1] which is similar to https://www.wish.com/product/5b471ec..._wcB&share=web and which we got from a charity shop for next to nothing. It can generate a lot or torque, but tends to slip off jars whose lids have sloping edges unless pressed firmly down while it's operating. [1] Called Magnus "I've started so I'll finish" because it whirs away for long after the lid is off, to get back to its rest position. -- Cheers, Roger We used to jam it between the hinge side of the door ad the door jamb and close the door on it.. Made a mess of the door and jambe but generally worked |
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On 10/11/2020 14:33, fred wrote:
On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:25:19 AM UTC, Roger Mills wrote: On 08/11/2020 14:42, michael adams wrote: Maybe I got lucky and this was a one off and I've checked Google - and nothing. As before grip the lid with all your force, using whatever additional help may be needed tea towel, rubber glove etc. Then take hold of the jar in the other hand And er, turn the jar. You can always get a better grip on a glass jar simply with the width of your hand, given which it seems to make more sense to turn the jar rather than the lid. Which still needs to be gripped firmly, but not turned at the same time. michael adams ... We find that opening a 2 lb jar of marmalade is a two person job. The other half grips the jar with two hands and I grip the lid with two hands. If she's not around, I have to resort to using Magnus[1] which is similar to https://www.wish.com/product/5b471ec..._wcB&share=web and which we got from a charity shop for next to nothing. It can generate a lot or torque, but tends to slip off jars whose lids have sloping edges unless pressed firmly down while it's operating. [1] Called Magnus "I've started so I'll finish" because it whirs away for long after the lid is off, to get back to its rest position. -- Cheers, Roger We used to jam it between the hinge side of the door ad the door jamb and close the door on it.. Made a mess of the door and jambe but generally worked Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Simples, no longer in a jam! :-) |
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No Name wrote: Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Called strap wrenches. And mentioned ages ago. As something that really does work unlike all the stupid ideas here. ;-) -- *If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 10/11/2020 14:50, No Name wrote:
Simples, no longer in a jam! :-) The little lever device recommended before works well, is simple to use, cheap, quite small to store and doesn't destroy the lid. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 10/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , No Name wrote: Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Called strap wrenches. And mentioned ages ago. As something that really does work unlike all the stupid ideas here. ;-) For experience it doesn't always work on oil filters on cars! The standby has always been to hammer a screwdriver through the filter :) -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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alan_m wrote: On 10/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , No Name wrote: Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Called strap wrenches. And mentioned ages ago. As something that really does work unlike all the stupid ideas here. ;-) For experience it doesn't always work on oil filters on cars! The standby has always been to hammer a screwdriver through the filter :) The version I have for car oil filters uses a chain rather than strap. So doesn't rely totally on friction. It has teeth which bite into the filter. -- *I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 12:34:46 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , alan_m wrote: On 10/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , No Name wrote: Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Called strap wrenches. And mentioned ages ago. As something that really does work unlike all the stupid ideas here. ;-) For experience it doesn't always work on oil filters on cars! The standby has always been to hammer a screwdriver through the filter :) The version I have for car oil filters uses a chain rather than strap. So doesn't rely totally on friction. It has teeth which bite into the filter. -- *I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces |
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On 08/11/2020 16:19, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , michael adams wrote: I mean I don't know. I've always turned the lids, but my recent experience suggests that maybe I along with everyone else it seems has been doing it wrong all along. As there's nothing that readily comes up on Google about turning the jar instead. The only problem is, I don't really want to go round opening jars of stuff I don't need to open right now, hopefilly jars with really tight lids, just to find out if it was a one-off or not. Most of these things tend to assume the jar won't turn when you use them. Never did work that one out. I take a tight one to the workshop. Support it in the woodwork vice - not tight, obviously - and use a couple of strap wrenches, one to stop the jar turning, one to turn the lid. Most do open with Marigolds, though. ;-) I don't think it actually matters which one you try to turn. Newtons third law is relevant here and the grip with the weaker friction will slip first. There might be a slight advantage therefore in using your stronger grip on the smaller lid than on the body of the jar. I find that for very stiff jamjar lids holding the lid and jar as hard as I can out so that my arms cross at 120 degrees and moving the thing sharply towards me allows me to put much more instantaneous torque onto the recalcitrant jar lid than I can from just the wrist. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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fred wrote: The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces Fine if your filter has flats - not all do. But if really tight, the thin steel they are made out of will likely deform with a spanner. Assuming there is room to get such a large spanner in. At one time, some had an ordinary nut welded on the end. -- *I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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fred writes On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 12:34:46 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , alan_m wrote: On 10/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , No Name wrote: Has anyone considered using a pair oil filter wrench for this? They come with rubber or cloth straps..... One round the lid, the other around the jar...... Called strap wrenches. And mentioned ages ago. As something that really does work unlike all the stupid ideas here. ;-) For experience it doesn't always work on oil filters on cars! The standby has always been to hammer a screwdriver through the filter :) The version I have for car oil filters uses a chain rather than strap. So doesn't rely totally on friction. It has teeth which bite into the filter. -- *I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces I've found a *strap wrench* pretty good. Mine is based on a box section steel rod which takes a 1/2" socket driver. Where access is restricted, you can use an extender. I also have chain wrench but that would wreck a thin container. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 11/11/2020 10:46, Tim Lamb wrote:
The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces I've found a *strap wrench* pretty good. Mine is based on a box section steel rod which takes a 1/2" socket driver. Where access is restricted, you can use an extender. +1 -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Robin wrote: On 11/11/2020 10:46, Tim Lamb wrote: The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces I've found a *strap wrench* pretty good. Mine is based on a box section steel rod which takes a 1/2" socket driver. Where access is restricted, you can use an extender. +1 The trick, of course, when doing your own oil changes is not to tighten the filter like it's a cylinder head bolt. It will then come off by hand easily enough. -- *Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 11/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
The trick, of course, when doing your own oil changes is not to tighten the filter like it's a cylinder head bolt. It will then come off by hand easily enough. That's the theory but having performed my own oil changes for 30+ years oil filters seem to glue themselves on even if they were only screwed on hand tight :) -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 11 Nov 2020 at 16:46:51 GMT, ""Dave Plowman" News)"
wrote: In article , Robin wrote: On 11/11/2020 10:46, Tim Lamb wrote: The best oil filter wrenches look like overlarge spanners which match the flats at the top of the filter.In the past I tried every version of these other types none of which worked sucessfully in confined spaces I've found a *strap wrench* pretty good. Mine is based on a box section steel rod which takes a 1/2" socket driver. Where access is restricted, you can use an extender. +1 The trick, of course, when doing your own oil changes is not to tighten the filter like it's a cylinder head bolt. It will then come off by hand easily enough. I'd admit to fitting them hand tight plus a bit with the wrench. It just *seems* like it's necessary on such an essential component that could wreck an engine if it came loose. -- Cheers, Rob |
Opening tight jar lids.
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alan_m wrote: On 11/11/2020 16:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: The trick, of course, when doing your own oil changes is not to tighten the filter like it's a cylinder head bolt. It will then come off by hand easily enough. That's the theory but having performed my own oil changes for 30+ years oil filters seem to glue themselves on even if they were only screwed on hand tight :) Ok here. Just use one hand to tighten them. Two to remove - and make sure it's clean first. -- *I used up all my sick days so I called in dead Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 10/11/2020 20:14, alan_m wrote:
On 10/11/2020 14:50, No Name wrote: Simples, no longer in a jam! :-) The little lever device recommended before works well, is simple to use, cheap, quite small to store and doesn't destroy the lid. It's a neat solution. We have one - expensive from LakeLand when they first came out. But as a bit of mass produced plastic should now cost less than a quid. But, given that some large percentage of 63 million UK residents suffer weekly problems opening bottles and Jam Jars, and we have identified that a car oil filter strap wrench is the obvious solution, I'm gonna book a huge prime time advertising campaign on ITV. I should clean up nicely.... ;-) Actually, thinking about it - someone needs to invent a bottle opener device for items with a child-proof cap. Both medicine and cleaning products bottles are sadly becoming adult-proof, I am often called to open something and leave the cap on loose.... -- Adrian C |
Opening tight jar lids.
On 14/11/2020 00:16, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
Actually, thinking about it - someone needs to invent a bottle opener device for items with a child-proof cap. Both medicine and cleaning products bottles are sadly becoming adult-proof, I am often called to open something and leave the cap on loose.... +1 Not only child proof lids but sealed bubble packs. The worst one I encountered recently was a card of Duracell button batteries with a child safe packing. Tear the plastic holding the battery from the card and find that the plastic bubble is completely sealed. A pair of small scissors or a craft/Stanley type knife is required to go further but the lip that has to be cut is very narrow (and round). -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Opening tight jar lids.
"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message ... On 10/11/2020 20:14, alan_m wrote: On 10/11/2020 14:50, No Name wrote: Simples, no longer in a jam! :-) The little lever device recommended before works well, is simple to use, cheap, quite small to store and doesn't destroy the lid. It's a neat solution. We have one - expensive from LakeLand when they first came out. But as a bit of mass produced plastic should now cost less than a quid. But, given that some large percentage of 63 million UK residents suffer weekly problems opening bottles and Jam Jars, and we have identified that a car oil filter strap wrench is the obvious solution, I'm gonna book a huge prime time advertising campaign on ITV. I should clean up nicely.... ;-) Actually, thinking about it - someone needs to invent a bottle opener device for items with a child-proof cap. Both medicine and cleaning products bottles are sadly becoming adult-proof, I am often called to open something and leave the cap on loose.... bleach bottles are *impossible* -- Adrian C |
Opening tight jar lids.
tim... wrote:
bleach bottles are *impossible* washing machine pod containers are getting there ... now I cut the locking tabs off. |
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