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From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can you do this?
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2020 15:14:47 +0000, Broadback wrote:

From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can you do
this?


Scan the appropriate documents and export to pdf format. Attach the
result to an email.



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On Wed, 04 Nov 2020 15:14:47 +0000, Broadback wrote:

From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can you do
this?


Scan the appropriate documents and export to pdf format. Attach the
result to an email.


Often when you go paperless with a utility company say, your bills are all
available as pdfs already.

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On 04/11/2020 15:14, Broadback wrote:
From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can you do
this?


You can print a mini-statement in a bank branch which will be
accepted because it will have some form of authentication code
in the corner.
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 16:28:20 +0000, Andrew wrote:

From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the

problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can

you do
this?


It's better than it was as companies are realising that many people
are now "paperless". I do like the contradiction in:

"I'm paperless, can I email a .pdf as downloaded from xyx?."
"No."
"OK can I print out that downloaded .pdf, scan/photgraph it and email
that image?"
"Yes."

You can print a mini-statement in a bank branch ...


If you have a bank branch any where near you. Our nearest are twenty
plus miles away. Would that be an "essential" journey?

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On 05/11/2020 10:38, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 16:28:20 +0000, Andrew wrote:

From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the

problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can

you do
this?


It's better than it was as companies are realising that many people
are now "paperless". I do like the contradiction in:

"I'm paperless, can I email a .pdf as downloaded from xyx?."
"No."
"OK can I print out that downloaded .pdf, scan/photgraph it and email
that image?"
"Yes."

You can print a mini-statement in a bank branch ...


If you have a bank branch any where near you. Our nearest are twenty
plus miles away. Would that be an "essential" journey?


Yet again, it doesn't have to be "essential". The question is whether
it is "reasonably necessary". Whether that test is met depends on why
you need the ID now.

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Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I have no
intention of going anywhere!
Scan in a passport or your driving licence?
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On 04/11/2020 20:38, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I have no
intention of going anywhere!
Scan in a passport or your driving licence?


Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years. Anyone can create a convincing looking
document with a word processor.

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Max Demian wrote:
On 04/11/2020 20:38, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I have no
intention of going anywhere!
Scan in a passport or your driving licence?


Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years.


Which is Illegal and carries a £1000 penalty.

https://www.gov.uk/change-address-driving-licence

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On 05/11/2020 08:06, Tim+ wrote:
Max Demian wrote:
On 04/11/2020 20:38, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I have no
intention of going anywhere!
Scan in a passport or your driving licence?


Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years.


Which is Illegal and carries a £1000 penalty.

https://www.gov.uk/change-address-driving-licence

Tim

Lots of people are assuming that there is a scanner available, there is
not. and lockdown has closed out local libraries wheich makes it
difficult getting a document sacanned.


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Lots of people are assuming that there is a scanner available, there is not


Mobile phone cameras are plenty good enough to "scan" an A4 sheet, there
are apps to de-skew/de-speckle and convert multiple pages to a single PDF.
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On Thursday, 5 November 2020 08:06:26 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years.

Which is Illegal and carries a £1000 penalty.
https://www.gov.uk/change-address-driving-licence


I have notified DVLA of change of address, and have the return letter to prove it.

They haven't updated my licence though as the photo wasn't good enough.

Suits me, I don't drive anyway.

Council Tax bill seems to be the most reliable paper bill still available, but it's only annual.

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On 05/11/2020 09:42, wrote:
On Thursday, 5 November 2020 08:06:26 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years.

Which is Illegal and carries a £1000 penalty.
https://www.gov.uk/change-address-driving-licence

I have notified DVLA of change of address, and have the return letter to prove it.

They haven't updated my licence though as the photo wasn't good enough.

Suits me, I don't drive anyway.

Council Tax bill seems to be the most reliable paper bill still available, but it's only annual.

Owain

Like Andy that's the only one I still have on paper, and it's what I use
for ID on tips to the trip
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Max Demian wrote:
On 04/11/2020 20:38, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I
have no
intention of going anywhere!
Scan in a passport or your driving licence?


Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years.


Which is Illegal and carries a £1000 penalty.


only if you actually want to use it as a driving licence

If you're just using it as ID. there's no fine for not updating your
address - though obviously using it to validate a fraudulent address would
be a different form of illegal







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On 04/11/2020 22:58, Max Demian wrote:
On 04/11/2020 20:38, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

Its an issue and precisely why I had to get a passport even though I
have no
intention of going anywhere!
Â* Scan in a passport or your driving licence?


Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years. Anyone can create a convincing looking
document with a word processor.

Its worse. I dont have paper bank statements, but downloadable PDFs. I
asked if those would do. Mo, they must be on paper. Could I scan the
paper and email that? Yes, that was all right...

So I sent the pdf anyway.


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On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 08:55:25 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
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Some companies require proof of address which requires a recent utility
bill or similar. Passports don't have addresses and driving licences can
be out of date by several years. Anyone can create a convincing looking
document with a word processor.

Its worse. I dont have paper bank statements, but downloadable PDFs. I
asked if those would do. Mo, they must be on paper. Could I scan the
paper and email that? Yes, that was all right...

So I sent the pdf anyway.


The National Library of Wales (Aberystwyth) rejected a pdf order for a
photocopy because I'd typed my name in the signature space, so I
opened the document in a pdf editor [1] and pasted in a jpg of my
signature, resized to suit, and sent it back, whereupon it was
accepted. That was for something with a value of less than £10 - I'd
just renewed my passport with less effort.
[1] I use Nitro but there are others.
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From time to time i am requested identification paperwork. the problem
is that most companies not want you to go paperless, so how can you do this?



I've done a few click and collect at Screwfix. Not once been asked for ID
- just show them my phone with the SMS order number on it and tell them my
surname.

Anywhere else, a photo driving licence has been fine. Or a credit card.

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