On 20/10/2020 10:18, Radio Man wrote:
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It is pointless trivia rules on food quality hygiene etc make sense whether
you call a disk of compressed veg matter a veg burger or a veg disk is just
pointless red tape. ....

Not, apparently, if you are a meat producer. They are the ones lobbying
for this amendment to the common agricultural policy. They see the
veggie sector as a significant threat to their sales.



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Colin Bignell

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:13:40 +0100, nightjar
wrote:

On 20/10/2020 10:18, Radio Man wrote:
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It is pointless trivia rules on food quality hygiene etc make sense whether
you call a disk of compressed veg matter a veg burger or a veg disk is just
pointless red tape. ....

Not, apparently, if you are a meat producer. They are the ones lobbying
for this amendment to the common agricultural policy. They see the
veggie sector as a significant threat to their sales.

And rightly so.

Every day there are new (vegan) products being released to cater for
the ever growing vegan market. The demand has been there for some time
now but supply hasn't had the confidence to step up. That's now well
under way.

https://www.veganfoodandliving.com/n...less-pie-asda/
(This is a pig farm producing a non meat version of their pies.)

These aren't people who hate the taste of meat or love the taste of
veg (particularly), but who don't like the taste of animal flesh more
than they would prefer the animals didn't have to be exploited and
killed in the first place.

https://ibb.co/VtzBBSx

Many many people actively protest against all sorts of 'bad things'
over time, be it (historically) ending slavery, giving women the vote,
giving women and minorities equal rights in industry / employment,
allowing same-sex marriage, stopping dog / cock fighting and hunting
with dogs, prohibiting smoking in pubic places, forcing people to wear
seatbelts or helmets and deterring them from using their phone whilst
driving and now it's the awareness of the unacceptability of many of
the practices some currently accept re we how we think we can treat a
sub-set of certain animals (the ones we call live stock).

Cheers, T i m

p.s. This is crazy:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yykoxz63

They won't be selling the dead pig flesh version of the pie in Melton
Mowbray for 'fear of offending the locals'! I wonder how many of the
locals are involved in the gassing, killing and butchering of pigs
then ... or find the idea perfectly acceptable, especially where there
is something available from the same manufacturer that doesn't require
animals to suffer and die?

You stab a dog and you are a psychopath.
You stab a pig and you are normal.
You don't do either and you are a crazy activist?

On 21/10/2020 12:56:56, T i m wrote:

,snip

You stab a dog and you are a psychopath.

Since you endorse the stabbing of pets to mutilate their genitals does
that make you a psychopath?

You stab a pig and you are normal.

It is normal to kill a pig humanely. Only someone with half a brain
would think otherwise? Which side of your brain did you say was capable
of thought?

You don't do either and you are a crazy activist?

Since you endorse the stabbing of pets, that makes you a crazy fanatical
activist.

On 21 Oct 2020 13:20:53 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

On 21 Oct 2020 at 13:40:57 BST, Fredxx wrote:

snip troll ****

Perhaps we should cancel T r o l l ' s posting licence.

That seems to be your MO Squeaker Goblin, denial of the uncomfortable
truth?

https://ibb.co/JFv5yTQ

Cheers, T i m

On 21/10/2020 14:30:47, T i m wrote:
On 21 Oct 2020 13:20:53 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

On 21 Oct 2020 at 13:40:57 BST, Fredxx wrote:

snip troll ****

Perhaps we should cancel T r o l l ' s posting licence.

That seems to be your MO Squeaker Goblin, denial of the uncomfortable
truth?

Nothing to deny. Perhaps that's your issue here?

https://ibb.co/JFv5yTQ

There is nothing to get upset about. As long as animal welfare is
primarily considered and the animals humanely slaughtered.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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If socialism helps the poor, why are the poor in socialist countries so much
poorer than the poor in capitalist countries?

Mark


Denmark

Ruling Party Socialist Coalition
Social Democrats, Social Liberal Party, Socialist People's Party (SPP),
Red-Green Alliance.

Non Contributory Minimum Old Age Pension

159,000 Danish Krone £ 19,298.47 p.a = £383 per week

UK

Ruling Party Conservative ie Capitalist

Non Contributory Category C Minimum old age pension £80.45 per week

Pension based on 35 years National Insurance Contributions £175.20



Looks like this "Mark" is a bit of a lying **** as well, by the looks of things.


michael adams

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