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Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only?
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... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? |
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On 30/08/2020 13:38, NY wrote:
"fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Tank-fed cold is better for mixing hot and cold, such as a shower. There's no reason why you shouldn't drink tank water provided the tank is clean and covered and not in a distant attic with rats swimming around in it. -- Max Demian |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:38:11 +0100, NY wrote:
"fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? IME with the present shower, the main reason (apart from those above) is to get sufficient back pressure. A shower will have a switch to cut out if the BP is too low and an over-temperature cut-out as well. Mine needs quite a lot of BP, so much that the spray was borderline dangerouse to any cuts and the eyes. I used a flanged 6mm wall plug in the input end of the hose, cutting it down gradually to get sufficient flow. So long as the throughput and temp. rise are OK it doesn't matter where the constriction is; the challenge is to get a satisfactory spray as most heads need too much water. If you use the higher powers these factors aren't so difficult to satisfy. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 1:38:31 PM UTC+1, NY wrote:
"fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? So I presume a pump would fix that. Our mains water pressure is very low. Water just about creeps up to the tap and falls out. |
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Presumably they do not pump, and gravity fed water is low pressure.
Brian -- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? |
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Most are mains fed. We still have a loft tank. One thing about it though, if
the water does fail you can easily boil tank water and drink it, actually its probably not going to kill you as it is in most cases. Brian -- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "NY" wrote in message ... "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:10:24 -0700, fred wrote:
On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 1:38:31 PM UTC+1, NY wrote: "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? So I presume a pump would fix that. Our mains water pressure is very low. Water just about creeps up to the tap and falls out. You would have to pump tank water (can't suck water out of the mains). In which case IMHO you are far better off heating a cylinder and then pumping tank water through hot and cold. Far better shower than any electric shower, and better than most if not all combis. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 30/08/2020 14:04, Max Demian wrote:
Tank-fed cold is better for mixing hot and cold, such as a shower. There's no reason why you shouldn't drink tank water provided the tank is clean and covered and not in a distant attic with rats swimming around in it. They don't swim for long. Bill |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:04:11 +0100
Max Demian wrote: On 30/08/2020 13:38, NY wrote: "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Tank-fed cold is better for mixing hot and cold, such as a shower. Why ? I find mains pressure hot and cold mix very well, but then I use a thermal store tank with a hot water coil, all the taps hot and cold deliver potable water - but I only drink the stuff that goes through the RO filter. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ |
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On 30/08/2020 20:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:04:11 +0100 Max Demian wrote: On 30/08/2020 13:38, NY wrote: "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Tank-fed cold is better for mixing hot and cold, such as a shower. Why ? I find mains pressure hot and cold mix very well, but then I use a thermal store tank with a hot water coil, all the taps hot and cold deliver potable water - but I only drink the stuff that goes through the RO filter. I'm assuming that the hot is tank-fed in any case, as it usually is if there is an immersion. The mains pressure may be much more. -- Max Demian |
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On 30/08/2020 20:01, David wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:10:24 -0700, fred wrote: On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 1:38:31 PM UTC+1, NY wrote: "fred" wrote in message ... Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? Maybe they have a minimum flow rate and/or pressure that a typical tank-fed cold water system couldn't manage. Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. Are new houses still built with tank-fed hot or cold water, or is everything mains-fed these days? So I presume a pump would fix that. Our mains water pressure is very low. Water just about creeps up to the tap and falls out. You would have to pump tank water (can't suck water out of the mains). In which case IMHO you are far better off heating a cylinder and then pumping tank water through hot and cold. Far better shower than any electric shower, and better than most if not all combis. One of the flats on the second floor of my block has a (noisy, sometimes leaky) pump to increase the pressure. I don't know how it works or whether it's really needed. -- Max Demian |
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fred wrote:
Why are the Triton 10.8kw models all shown as for mains water only? We have a Cara 10.8kW - I'm not sure if it's plumbed off (feeble) mains or the tank. You can't have any other water demands in the house or it will cut out and refuse to do anything but cold for some minutes. The dial takes your trickle of water from 'cold' to 27 varieties of scalding hot with a temporary and variable sweet spot in between. I hate it. Theo |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:45:31 +0100
Max Demian wrote: On 30/08/2020 20:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:04:11 +0100 Max Demian wrote: Tank-fed cold is better for mixing hot and cold, such as a shower. Why ? I find mains pressure hot and cold mix very well, but then I use a thermal store tank with a hot water coil, all the taps hot and cold deliver potable water - but I only drink the stuff that goes through the RO filter. I'm assuming that the hot is tank-fed in any case, as it usually is if there is an immersion. The mains pressure may be much more. Ah mix like with like, but a tank fed shower isn't that called a dribble ? There's an immersion in my thermal store tank but I've never bothered to connect it up (3kW, 500 litre .. nah). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ |
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On 30/08/2020 13:38, NY wrote:
Why anyone would want tank-fed cold water bewilders me, since the same feed cannot also feed the bathroom taps where you might want to drink the water. We had a new bathroom fitted upstairs. I made a point of having the cold feed be straight mains water as we clean our teeth in it. We then converted the original downstairs bathroom to a walk-in shower. As it's downstairs the pressure is OK. I made a point of having the cold be from the tank; if the water board mess up and cut us off we've got a tank full of toilet flushes. Andy |
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