I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a 12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed to
a kitchen fitter?!

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I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a
12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any
of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed
to
a kitchen fitter?!

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How about an end socket usually used for wardrobe rails and the like. screw
it to the work top and use a short length of the rail itself to line the
hole.


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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
gribblechips wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring
up a 12v power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial
lead for SWMBO's new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing
the dinner - yes, I know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having
eliminated all other possible routes - all of which would have left
a lot of exposed cables and hardware because the walls are tiled
with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any of that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it
with a metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going
down through the worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not
sure whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop -
or indeed to a kitchen fitter?!

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Set Square
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How about an end socket usually used for wardrobe rails and the like.
screw it to the work top and use a short length of the rail itself to
line the hole.

Interesting thought, thanks.

I really want a one piece tube and flange, though, with no screw holes in
the flange - I would glue it in with sealant, unless the tube had a thread
on the outside to take a nut underneath the worktop.
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:12:46 +0100, "Set Square"
wrote:

I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a 12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed to
a kitchen fitter?!
Not sure about why you need the tube, but you used to be able to get
collars (without screw holes) in chrome etc that were designed to be
put into the floor where a radiator pipe entered it.

Essentially, they are to make the joint look tidy when the pipe enters
a polished wood floor.

Not sure what they are called though or where to get them.
Rob

"Kalico" wrote in message =
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:12:46 +0100, "Set Square"
wrote:
=20
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring =
up a 12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for =
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, =
I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other =
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and =
hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb =
any of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it =
with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down =
through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not =
sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or =
indeed to
a kitchen fitter?!
Not sure about why you need the tube, but you used to be able to get
collars (without screw holes) in chrome etc that were designed to be
put into the floor where a radiator pipe entered it.
=20
Essentially, they are to make the joint look tidy when the pipe enters
a polished wood floor.
=20
Not sure what they are called though or where to get them.
Rob
=20
something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...649&ts=3D48872

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a
12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any
of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed
to
a kitchen fitter?!


you could use a bass tube for a speaker housing, they are the right sort of
hole size, but afaik only in black plastic, or what about a basin waste
fitting with the grill chopped out?

"mrcheerful ." wrote in message
...

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a
12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and
hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb
any
of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with
a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through
the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not
sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed
to
a kitchen fitter?!


you could use a bass tube for a speaker housing, they are the right sort
of
hole size, but afaik only in black plastic, or what about a basin waste
fitting with the grill chopped out?


Take a look at the plastic fittings installed in the counters of post
offices where the electronic counter units are fed from under the counter. I
used to have a few spare kicking around until we moved house about three
years ago. Perhaps one of the offices which are closing might be a source.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
mrcheerful . wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring
up a 12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes,
I know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and
hardware because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I
can't disturb any of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it
with a metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going
down through the worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not
sure whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop -
or indeed to
a kitchen fitter?!


you could use a bass tube for a speaker housing, they are the right
sort of hole size, but afaik only in black plastic, or what about a
basin waste fitting with the grill chopped out?

Thanks for the suggestions. I've look at a basin waste today - and it's the
right sort of thing, but too big.

I (or rather, SWMBO!) could probably live with black plastic if it's the
right size. Where would I get a speaker housing bass tube, and how big are
they?
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I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a
12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort,

Put an aerial amplifier feeding a length of wire under the surface and then
a simple loop aerial on the TV. Should work well enough for an LCD jobby.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:41:11 UTC, "Set Square" wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions. I've look at a basin waste today - and it's the
right sort of thing, but too big.

I (or rather, SWMBO!) could probably live with black plastic if it's the
right size. Where would I get a speaker housing bass tube, and how big are
they?

Try an office supplies place. They have these things in desks designed
to take computer equipment. They may have them separately, or give you
one from a broken/incomplete unit.

--
Bob Eager
begin a new life...dump Windows!

Taking the plugs off will mean a smaller hole. Then joining the cables again
under the worktop.

--


Regards

John


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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:41:11 UTC, "Set Square" wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions. I've look at a basin waste today - and it's
the
right sort of thing, but too big.

I (or rather, SWMBO!) could probably live with black plastic if it's the
right size. Where would I get a speaker housing bass tube, and how big
are
they?

Try an office supplies place. They have these things in desks designed
to take computer equipment. They may have them separately, or give you
one from a broken/incomplete unit.

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something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18649&ts=48872

Indeed

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
John wrote:

Taking the plugs off will mean a smaller hole. Then joining the
cables again under the worktop.


I might have to resort to that. It's easy with the aerial lead, but the 12v
supply cable is moulded into a power supply with 13A plug at one end, and
moulded into the outlet for the TV at the other end. I don't *really* want
to cut this because of warranty issues.
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Kalico wrote:

[snip]

something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18649&ts=48872

Indeed

I looked at some of those in one of the sheds. They would do at a push, but
are really too large in diameter relative to the central hole - pushing the
hole in the worktop too far out from the corner. I reaaly want a smaller
flange than this.
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In article , Set Square
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Kalico wrote:

[snip]

something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18649&ts=48872

Indeed

I looked at some of those in one of the sheds. They would do at a push, but
are really too large in diameter relative to the central hole - pushing the
hole in the worktop too far out from the corner. I reaaly want a smaller
flange than this.

How about a pipe stiffener for mdpe in white nylon as is has the through
hole sleeving and a small diameter flange to finish the top surface. I've got
one for 25mm here which is a bit too small (20o/d, 17i/d), but one for
32mm pipe would prob do the job (guess 27o/d, 24i/d?). Plumbers'
merchant will prob have one offs. Doesn't meet your chrome finish spec,
but you could place a bright plated or stainless washer under the flange.
I've tried it here & it looks ok but is actually less obtrusive without the
washer. Or do some mfrs make their stiffeners in Ali?

Hope you can visualise the idea.
--
fred

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
fred wrote:

In article , Set Square
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Kalico wrote:

[snip]

something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18649&ts=48872

Indeed

I looked at some of those in one of the sheds. They would do at a
push, but are really too large in diameter relative to the central
hole - pushing the hole in the worktop too far out from the corner.
I reaaly want a smaller flange than this.

How about a pipe stiffener for mdpe in white nylon as is has the
through hole sleeving and a small diameter flange to finish the top
surface. I've got one for 25mm here which is a bit too small (20o/d,
17i/d), but one for 32mm pipe would prob do the job (guess 27o/d,
24i/d?). Plumbers'
merchant will prob have one offs. Doesn't meet your chrome finish
spec,
but you could place a bright plated or stainless washer under the
flange. I've tried it here & it looks ok but is actually less
obtrusive without the washer. Or do some mfrs make their stiffeners
in Ali?

Hope you can visualise the idea.


I think that's the best idea so far - many thanks.
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"Set Square" wrote in message ...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
gribblechips wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring
up a 12v power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial
lead for SWMBO's new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing
the dinner - yes, I know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having
eliminated all other possible routes - all of which would have left
a lot of exposed cables and hardware because the walls are tiled
with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any of that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it
with a metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going
down through the worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

I'd have the tube come up above the counter an inch or two, and caulk
around it where it goes through the counter, to keep spills out.

What's the countertop? If it's laminate, maybe you can get small
pieces of matching laminate flexible enough to surround the tube,
which could then be pretty much anything (pvc, etc).

hey, how about this: get one of those pots (in marble, or steel, or
wood) designed to hold spoons and spatulas, bore a hole in the bottom,
and cement it over the hole in the counter. Then the cords just
"disappear" into it. You can even fill the hole with foam or something
and use it for holding things, in addition to the cords!

Chip C

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:51:45 GMT, fred wrote:

In article , Set Square
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Kalico wrote:

[snip]

something like this ?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...18649&ts=48872

Indeed

I looked at some of those in one of the sheds. They would do at a push, but
are really too large in diameter relative to the central hole - pushing the
hole in the worktop too far out from the corner. I reaaly want a smaller
flange than this.

How about a pipe stiffener for mdpe in white nylon as is has the through
hole sleeving and a small diameter flange to finish the top surface. I've got
one for 25mm here which is a bit too small (20o/d, 17i/d), but one for
32mm pipe would prob do the job (guess 27o/d, 24i/d?). Plumbers'
merchant will prob have one offs. Doesn't meet your chrome finish spec,
but you could place a bright plated or stainless washer under the flange.
I've tried it here & it looks ok but is actually less obtrusive without the
washer. Or do some mfrs make their stiffeners in Ali?

Hope you can visualise the idea.

On that idea, why not shine up one of the inserts for Hep2O?
Rob

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"Set Square" wrote in message ...
John wrote:

Taking the plugs off will mean a smaller hole. Then joining the
cables again under the worktop.

I might have to resort to that. It's easy with the aerial lead, but the 12v
supply cable is moulded into a power supply with 13A plug at one end, and
moulded into the outlet for the TV at the other end. I don't *really* want
to cut this because of warranty issues.


Or: find a couple of mini connectors that will screw or glue to the
top of the worktop. Before atatching em, drill 1mm holes for enamelled
wires to go through. Sort out the wiring on the underside. Short
cables on the TV keep things tidy.

Or you could have a standard phone sized socket box right above the
countertop, with your sockets of choice in it. The box covers the hole
in the counter. etc etc etc.

Or you could get wacky and suspend the TV from 3 wires, which
conveniently carry the power and ae signals. Or mount the TV under the
cupboards above instead of on the top, then hiding wires maye be
easier.

I wont suggest a projection box or a microwave power beam, but there
are plenty of workable options.


Regards, NT

In article , Kalico
writes
How about a pipe stiffener for mdpe in white nylon as is has the through
hole sleeving and a small diameter flange to finish the top surface. I've got
one for 25mm here which is a bit too small (20o/d, 17i/d), but one for
32mm pipe would prob do the job (guess 27o/d, 24i/d?). Plumbers'
merchant will prob have one offs. Doesn't meet your chrome finish spec,
but you could place a bright plated or stainless washer under the flange.
I've tried it here & it looks ok but is actually less obtrusive without the
washer. Or do some mfrs make their stiffeners in Ali?

Hope you can visualise the idea.

On that idea, why not shine up one of the inserts for Hep2O?
Rob

Sounds good, metal I see, are they stainless? I'm guessing 28mm pipe
size, 25mm i/d, metal insert with thinner wall than plastic prob 24mm i/d?
--
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"Set Square" wrote in message
...
I need to make a hole near the corner of a kitchen worktop to bring up a
12v
power cable (with right-angled concentric plug) and aerial lead for
SWMBO's
new 6" LCD TV (so she can watch TV while preparing the dinner - yes, I
know!). Making a hole is a last resort, having eliminated all other
possible
routes - all of which would have left a lot of exposed cables and hardware
because the walls are tiled with wallpaper above, and I can't disturb any
of
that.

In order to make this hole "acceptable", I would like to finish it with a
metal or plastic tube (ID in the region of 20-25mm) going down through the
worktop, with a chrome flange/bezel on the top.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use for this - I'm not sure
whether to go to a plumber's merchant or an electronics shop - or indeed
to
a kitchen fitter?!

These too large?

http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...ct%5Fid=255157

Regards

Mike Dodd

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mike Dodd wrote:


These too large?


http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...ct%5Fid=255157

Regards

Mike Dodd


Thanks, but yes!
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In message , fred writes
In article , Kalico
writes
How about a pipe stiffener for mdpe in white nylon as is has the through
Hope you can visualise the idea.

On that idea, why not shine up one of the inserts for Hep2O?
Rob

Sounds good, metal I see, are they stainless?

Yes

--
Chris French, Leeds

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:57:44 +0100, "Set Square"
wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mike Dodd wrote:


These too large?


http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...ct%5Fid=255157

Regards

Mike Dodd


Thanks, but yes!

Hi,

How about a chrome plated/stainless steel napkin ring? Or cut a
section off an old alloy bike handlebar or seat post with a pipe
cutter and sand and polish the cut end.

Might also be possible to cut the top off a metal candlestick holder
or use the bezel from a halogen micro downlighter.

cheers,
Pete.