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when did a program become an app ?
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On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. |
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On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote:
On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:31:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote: On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly The language has been slaughtered. A program tells a device how to run. An application is when you stick your smartphone under a table leg because the beer mat isn't thick enough. Remember when "doing a shop" was something you could get arrested for? AB From the well pummelled keyboard of Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq |
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On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. -- Max Demian |
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On 08/07/2020 22:57, Max Demian wrote:
On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. Everything from the "Microsoft Store" that runs on a PC under Windoze 10 is labelled an App. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. |
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On 08/07/2020 22:57, Max Demian wrote:
On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. There always was application programming and system programming... -- "If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 22:57, Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. Everything from the "Microsoft Store" that runs on a PC under Windoze 10 is labelled an App. Thats a much more recent thing than the original use of the term app. |
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On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... Or in the mustang either, you dinosaur. |
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On 09/07/2020 07:48, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... Or in the mustang either, you dinosaur. mustang has plenty of computer **** unfortunately..... ......Nokia 1100 was for me the pinnacle of cellphone design.....it is very small you can sit on it ....it has a mono screen you can read in the brightest sun shine....battery lasts forever ....you charge it with a wired hand free in the car.... the ring is very loud....no touch screen you can operate it without even looking.....perfect phone...don't get me wrong I have plenty of androids for zello etc but I always go back to my 1100...I don't follow the sheep |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... cell phone noun: cell phone a phone with access to a cellular radio system so it can be used over a wide area, without a physical connection to a network; a mobile phone. fea·ture phone noun: feature phone a mobile phone that incorporates features such as the ability to access the Internet and store and play music but lacks the advanced functionality of a smartphone. smart·phone noun: smart-phone a mobile phone that performs many of the functions of a computer, typically having a touchscreen interface, Internet access, and an operating system capable of running downloaded applications. ******* Now, compare the things your phone does, to those examples. Yours is not a smart phone, and it's unlikely to connect to the Google Store or the Apple Store, to acquire new Apps. The Android OS is a mate for the Google Store. Yours has an alarm clock and some sort of reminder thing. Which is an example of a "firmware application", one that is in the box from the start. They could put anything they wanted in it that way, except it would need more Flash memory to store all that stuff, and it would need more RAM for complex functions like a web browser. That's where the Smart Phone comes in. Some Smart Phones have 12GB of RAM, which is more than some new desktop computers ship with. Nobody is quite sure why those phones got 12GB - it's going to be mostly a waste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100 One feature yours has got, is the phone can run for 400 hours on one charge, during which time it's ready to receive incoming calls. And that's pretty impressive. There are other fancy devices, that they have to be charged every day and a half to two days. Yours is like eight times better... at being a phone. Paul |
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"Who or What is Rod Speed?"
"Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:47:02 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent: "You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates his particular prowess at it every day." MID: |
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On 09/07/2020 08:15, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/07/2020 07:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... Or in the mustang either, you dinosaur. mustang has plenty of computer **** unfortunately..... .....Nokia 1100 was for me the pinnacle of cellphone design.....it is very small you can sit on it ....it has a mono screen you can read in the brightest sun shine....battery lasts forever ....you charge it with a wired hand free in the car.... the ring is very loud....no touch screen you can operate it without even looking.....perfect phone...don't get me wrong I have plenty of androids for zello etc but I always go back to my 1100...I don't follow the sheep my '66 mustang was devoide of all computer crap .... -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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App is merely short for application and application seems to have become the
term back in the XP days, and personally, its a bit of a misnamed thing, but then so is program or programme depending on where you are. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. |
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TVs now have apps of course.
I'm sure in the future, even toasters will run apps. Alexa for example runs apps but they run in the cloud and not on the device, which is why alexa is dumb without an internet connection. What I don't get is this. The Echo series can walk you through a set up by using the voice prompts and an app on the phone, yet nobody has seemingly bothered about putting a voice on the bios of a computer to help out have they? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. -- Max Demian |
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Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. when I wanted to join a Zoom meeting yesterday on my PC, I was told to download the 'App'. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:36:03 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
wrote: App is merely short for application and application seems to have become the term back in the XP days, and personally, its a bit of a misnamed thing, but then so is program or programme depending on where you are. Brian Near where "Full Stop" or "Period" became "dot"? -- Mike |
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On 09/07/2020 08:21, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... cell phone noun: cell phone Â*Â*Â* a phone with access to a cellular radio system so it can be Â*Â*Â* used over a wide area, without a physical connection to a Â*Â*Â* network; a mobile phone. fea·ture phone noun: feature phone Â*Â*Â* a mobile phone that incorporates features such as the ability Â*Â*Â* to access the Internet and store and play music but lacks Â*Â*Â* the advanced functionality of a smartphone. smart·phone noun: smart-phone Â*Â*Â* a mobile phone that performs many of the functions of a computer, Â*Â*Â* typically having a touchscreen interface, Internet access, and Â*Â*Â* an operating system capable of running downloaded applications. ******* Now, compare the things your phone does, to those examples. Yours is not a smart phone, and it's unlikely to connect to the Google Store or the Apple Store, to acquire new Apps. The Android OS is a mate for the Google Store. Yours has an alarm clock and some sort of reminder thing. Which is an example of a "firmware application", one that is in the box from the start. They could put anything they wanted in it that way, except it would need more Flash memory to store all that stuff, and it would need more RAM for complex functions like a web browser. That's where the Smart Phone comes in. Some Smart Phones have 12GB of RAM, which is more than some new desktop computers ship with. Nobody is quite sure why those phones got 12GB - it's going to be mostly a waste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100 One feature yours has got, is the phone can run for 400 hours on one charge, during which time it's ready to receive incoming calls. And that's pretty impressive. There are other fancy devices, that they have to be charged every day and a half to two days. Yours is like eight times better... at being a phone. Â*Â* Paul I know great isn't it ? ..... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2020 07:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... Or in the mustang either, you dinosaur. mustang has plenty of computer **** unfortunately..... But no apps. .....Nokia 1100 was for me the pinnacle of cellphone design..... Typical dinosaur. it is very small you can sit on it .... Not with your lard arse you cant. it has a mono screen you can read in the brightest sun shine.... battery lasts forever .... Bull**** it does. you charge it with a wired hand free in the car.... You can with any smartphone. the ring is very loud.... Bull**** it is. no touch screen you can operate it without even looking..... You can tell any decent smartphone what to do. perfect phone... Nope, now useless dinosaur. don't get me wrong I have plenty of androids for zello etc but I always go back to my 1100... Because you are a dinosaur. I don't follow the sheep We have the video of you ****ing them. |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2020 08:15, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2020 07:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 08/07/2020 23:47, Rod Speed wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote when did a program become an app ? With smartphones. so I don't have any on my nokia 1100 then ? ...... Or in the mustang either, you dinosaur. mustang has plenty of computer **** unfortunately..... .....Nokia 1100 was for me the pinnacle of cellphone design.....it is very small you can sit on it ....it has a mono screen you can read in the brightest sun shine....battery lasts forever ....you charge it with a wired hand free in the car.... the ring is very loud....no touch screen you can operate it without even looking.....perfect phone...don't get me wrong I have plenty of androids for zello etc but I always go back to my 1100...I don't follow the sheep my '66 mustang was devoide of all computer crap .... And was a lot more farting around because it was. |
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"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" wrote in message ... TVs now have apps of course. I'm sure in the future, even toasters will run apps. Alexa for example runs apps but they run in the cloud and not on the device, which is why alexa is dumb without an internet connection. What I don't get is this. The Echo series can walk you through a set up by using the voice prompts and an app on the phone, yet nobody has seemingly bothered about putting a voice on the bios of a computer to help out have they? Don’t need to when they work out of the box. "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. -- Max Demian |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) submitted this idea :
App is merely short for application and application seems to have become the term back in the XP days, and personally, its a bit of a misnamed thing, but then so is program or programme depending on where you are. I first came across it for phones, for computers and other things, I default to programs, firmware and software. Who updates their MS Windows 10 App? Its a software update, just as it has always been. |
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Mike Halmarack wrote :
Near where "Full Stop" or "Period" became "dot"? The full stop became a dot, when email addresses were exchanged verbally. |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... brought next idea :
no touch screen you can operate it without even looking.....perfect phone...don't get me wrong I have plenty of androids for zello etc but I always go back to my 1100...I don't follow the sheep Working, driving and constant phone calls, I wouldn't welcome a touch screen, but now - not trying to juggle driving and talking, I'm fine with an Iphone and its touch screen. |
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On 09/07/2020 09:10, charles wrote:
In article , Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. when I wanted to join a Zoom meeting yesterday on my PC, I was told to download the 'App'. Windows 8 brought "Apps". Only new to those moving from 7 to 10. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:46:43 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote: when did a program become an app ? When Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone |
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Robin wrote: On 09/07/2020 09:10, charles wrote: In article , Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. when I wanted to join a Zoom meeting yesterday on my PC, I was told to download the 'App'. Windows 8 brought "Apps". Only new to those moving from 7 to 10. Acorn used apps long before either. Like near 40 years ago. -- *I did a theatrical performance about puns. It was a play on words.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:31:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly The language has been slaughtered. A program tells a device how to run. An application is when you stick your smartphone under a table leg because the beer mat isn't thick enough. Remember when "doing a shop" was something you could get arrested for? Um No? |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:31:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly The language has been slaughtered. A program tells a device how to run. An application is when you stick your smartphone under a table leg because the beer mat isn't thick enough. Remember when "doing a shop" was something you could get arrested for? Um No? |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:31:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly The language has been slaughtered. A program tells a device how to run. An application is when you stick your smartphone under a table leg because the beer mat isn't thick enough. Remember when "doing a shop" was something you could get arrested for? Um No? |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message ... On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:31:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: On 08/07/2020 18:04, Andrew wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? After Win7 it seems. silly The language has been slaughtered. A program tells a device how to run. An application is when you stick your smartphone under a table leg because the beer mat isn't thick enough. Remember when "doing a shop" was something you could get arrested for? Um No? |
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On 09/07/2020 13:55, Robin wrote:
On 09/07/2020 09:10, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. when I wanted to join a Zoom meeting yesterday on my PC, I was told to download the 'App'. Windows 8 brought "Apps".Â* Only new to those moving from 7 to 10. I bought a brand new windows 8.1 laptop and it was like getting into your car and finding all the controls moved around and when you do start to drive it all the road signs have been changed......sold it -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 09/07/2020 13:55, Robin wrote:
On 09/07/2020 09:10, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* Max Demian wrote: On 08/07/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: when did a program become an app ? It's mainly smart phones and tablets have apps. Actually it's more accurate as it distinguishes application programs from ones that form part of the operating system or utilities like compilers. when I wanted to join a Zoom meeting yesterday on my PC, I was told to download the 'App'. Windows 8 brought "Apps".Â* Only new to those moving from 7 to 10. I bought a brand new windows 8.1 laptop and it was like getting into your car and finding all the controls moved around and when you do start to drive it all the road signs have been changed......sold it -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |