And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)



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John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)




Wot no fruit?

(4 x beef stock cubes?)

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On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)




Wot no fruit?

(4 x beef stock cubes?)


Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

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On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)




Wot no fruit?

The peppers give it the fruity, and then tomatoes :-)

(4 x beef stock cubes?)

1x veg, 2 x beef.


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On 14/06/2020 10:25, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only
dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne



(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)





Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

Looks like it could be worth a try :-)


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On 14/06/2020 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 10:25, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only
dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne



(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)





Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

Looks like it could be worth aÂ* try :-)




I'll send you some.

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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 02:23:12 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)

Funny, I did a CCC yesterday but using Quorn 'mince' and *way* less
spice as 1) it would be too hot for her and 2) going against the
advice of my Dr. for my stomach ulcers. ;-(

We were given some microwave 'steam in the bag' Moroccan rice and
chickpea thing a while back and the other day [1] and I dug it out the
freezer and did it. A quick test taste suggested it might be too hot
for the Mrs and might contain things that I don't like the taste of
(squashes etc). However, it was fine for me because the spice masked
any such tastes but not fine for her because it was too spicy for her
and it masked the tastes.

And I think she has a point. When we eat these hot / spicy foods,
would we say we can generally taste the difference in the different
ingredients or is it just the texture that changes?

(Stereo?)Typical 'English food' is often considered as being bland,
meat, potatoes and veg, maybe some gravy or a bit of mint sauce /
mustard etc but at least you can then differentiate easily between the
different tastes, however mild they may be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSP7PtctC4

Cheers, T i m

On 14/06/2020 11:23, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 10:25, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was
only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne



(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)





Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

Looks like it could be worth aÂ* try :-)




I'll send you some.

Very kind, although it looks like I can slap one on my next supermarket
delivery.

(having said that, I accidentally made chilli with soy sauce once (in my
defence the bottle was sat beside the hob in the place the L&P usually
sits!) that actually turned out ok.


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On 14/06/2020 11:53, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 02:23:12 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)

Funny, I did a CCC yesterday but using Quorn 'mince' and *way* less
spice as 1) it would be too hot for her

I have found you can train em :-) if its a dish you do reasonably
regularly, just tweak up the heat a bit each time, and they acclimatise!

and 2) going against the
advice of my Dr. for my stomach ulcers. ;-(

Yup, that could be a bit more of a downer.

We were given some microwave 'steam in the bag' Moroccan rice and
chickpea thing a while back and the other day [1] and I dug it out the
freezer and did it. A quick test taste suggested it might be too hot
for the Mrs and might contain things that I don't like the taste of
(squashes etc). However, it was fine for me because the spice masked
any such tastes but not fine for her because it was too spicy for her
and it masked the tastes.

We had a vegan house guest a while back and SWMBO did a butternut squash
curry, with some chickpeas. It actually worked quite well - the
different texture of the chickpeas helped quite a bit, and the mild
curry made the squash palatable.

And I think she has a point. When we eat these hot / spicy foods,
would we say we can generally taste the difference in the different
ingredients or is it just the texture that changes?

Spicy done well needs to have its own unique flavour as well as the heat
IME. While I like hot dishes, I am less keen on those that are just hot
with no redeeming flavour component.

(Stereo?)Typical 'English food' is often considered as being bland,
meat, potatoes and veg, maybe some gravy or a bit of mint sauce /
mustard etc but at least you can then differentiate easily between the
different tastes, however mild they may be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSP7PtctC4

:-)


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On 14/06/2020 14:24, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:23, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 10:25, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 07:21, Jimk wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was
only dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...illi_Con_Carne



(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to
DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)





Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

Looks like it could be worth aÂ* try :-)




I'll send you some.

Very kind, although it looks like I can slap one on my next supermarket
delivery.

(having said that, I accidentally made chilli with soy sauce once (in my
defence the bottle was sat beside the hob in the place the L&P usually
sits!) that actually turned out ok.



OK. Then I'll stop Lou from posting it. It's well worth a try even for
other stuff.

Note that the wiki article still says 2 x beef stock twice (IYSWIM)

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On Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:14:17 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:


The peppers give it the fruity, and then tomatoes :-)

(4 x beef stock cubes?)

1x veg, 2 x beef.

But you have actually put:

1 veg stock cube, 2 x beef stock cube
2 beef stock cubes

:-)

On 14/06/2020 14:55, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 14:24, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:23, ARW wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 10:25, ARW wrote:

Swap the Worcester sauce for

https://www.hendersonsrelish.com/

Looks like it could be worth aÂ* try :-)




I'll send you some.

Very kind, although it looks like I can slap one on my next
supermarket delivery.

(having said that, I accidentally made chilli with soy sauce once (in
my defence the bottle was sat beside the hob in the place the L&P
usually sits!) that actually turned out ok.



OK. Then I'll stop Lou from posting it.Â* It's well worth a try even for
other stuff.

I will add it to the next order, and report back! :-)

Note that the wiki article still says 2 x beef stock twice (IYSWIM)

Ah, yup sorry missed that. Fixed.


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On 14/06/2020 16:38, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:14:17 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:


The peppers give it the fruity, and then tomatoes :-)

(4 x beef stock cubes?)

1x veg, 2 x beef.

But you have actually put:

1 veg stock cube, 2 x beef stock cube
2 beef stock cubes

yup, my bad, fixed!


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On 14/06/2020 17:03, Pamela wrote:
On 02:23 14 Jun 2020, John Rumm said:

And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only
dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ruity_Chilli_C
on_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)

If everyone wants a big portion (it looks good enough to want more) then
there's no way that will stretch to 6 or 8 people. Yum yum!

I find after feeding the 5 of us, there are usually a couple of servings
left over. Although it does rather depend on how much other stuff you
have with it. So I think it should do 6 even with good appetites.


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On 14/06/2020 20:06, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 17:03, Pamela wrote:
On 02:23Â* 14 Jun 2020, John Rumm said:

And not in the workshop either. Don't get your hopes up, it was only
dinner:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ruity_Chilli_C

on_Carne


(someone asked me for the recipe - I figured it was near enough to DIY
to warrant inclusion here for any spice heads out there!)

If everyone wants a big portion (it looks good enough to want more) then
there's no way that will stretch to 6 or 8 people.Â* Yum yum!

I find after feeding the 5 of us, there are usually a couple of servings
left over. Although it does rather depend on how much other stuff you
have with it.

It has to be severed with Peter Kays favourite....


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On Sunday, 14 June 2020 20:04:51 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/06/2020 16:38, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:14:17 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:


The peppers give it the fruity, and then tomatoes :-)

(4 x beef stock cubes?)

1x veg, 2 x beef.

But you have actually put:

1 veg stock cube, 2 x beef stock cube
2 beef stock cubes

yup, my bad, fixed!

Don't know whether it makes it better - or worse - but I brown the mince in one pan while the onions soften in another. Allows me to really brown the mince in two or three batches and then put it in with the onions/tomato/chilli/etc.

On 14/06/2020 11:53, T i m wrote:

(Stereo?)Typical 'English food' is often considered as being bland,
meat, potatoes and veg, maybe some gravy or a bit of mint sauce /
mustard etc but at least you can then differentiate easily between the
different tastes, however mild they may be?

Most food seems to taste of too much salt which masks the true taste of
many ingredients.

Before the lockdown, staff at my local fish and chip shop thought it
strange that I never wanted salt or vinegar on my take away. In common
with a lot of similar establishment the amount of salt sprinkled on a
single portion of chips possibly exceeds the WHO annual consumption
recommendations.

Because of health reasons my mother never cooked with salt and never put
any on her food. I was brought up under this regime and 60 years later I
still do not add salt to any food. Obviously a lot of processed food is
smothered in the stuff and unfortunately I often find that the
overriding taste is this salt. It's a lot worse in many restaurants
where the cooks seem to think a unit of a pinch is a handful, and as can
be seen with many celebrity cooks on TV shows.

The problem is that too many people are addicted to the taste of salt
and any food without it tastes strange to them. I find that I can enjoy
the true taste of many ingredients without salt but when its added in
"common quantities" during cooking or afterwards it all starts to taste
the same. Could this be why a lot of people think things are bland
because there is no variation in the taste of the salt in what is on
their plates?

I do occasionally enjoy a very spicy meal but not necessarily being
stupidly chilli hot.


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On Sunday, 14 June 2020 22:58:02 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:53, T i m wrote:

(Stereo?)Typical 'English food' is often considered as being bland,
meat, potatoes and veg, maybe some gravy or a bit of mint sauce /
mustard etc but at least you can then differentiate easily between the
different tastes, however mild they may be?

Most food seems to taste of too much salt which masks the true taste of
many ingredients.

Before the lockdown, staff at my local fish and chip shop thought it
strange that I never wanted salt or vinegar on my take away. In common
with a lot of similar establishment the amount of salt sprinkled on a
single portion of chips possibly exceeds the WHO annual consumption
recommendations.

Because of health reasons my mother never cooked with salt and never put
any on her food. I was brought up under this regime and 60 years later I
still do not add salt to any food. Obviously a lot of processed food is
smothered in the stuff and unfortunately I often find that the
overriding taste is this salt. It's a lot worse in many restaurants
where the cooks seem to think a unit of a pinch is a handful, and as can
be seen with many celebrity cooks on TV shows.

The problem is that too many people are addicted to the taste of salt
and any food without it tastes strange to them. I find that I can enjoy
the true taste of many ingredients without salt but when its added in
"common quantities" during cooking or afterwards it all starts to taste
the same. Could this be why a lot of people think things are bland
because there is no variation in the taste of the salt in what is on
their plates?

I do occasionally enjoy a very spicy meal but not necessarily being
stupidly chilli hot.

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.

On 14/06/2020 22:57, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 11:53, T i m wrote:

(Stereo?)Typical 'English food' is often considered as being bland,
meat, potatoes and veg, maybe some gravy or a bit of mint sauce /
mustard etc but at least you can then differentiate easily between the
different tastes, however mild they may be?

Most food seems to taste of too much salt which masks the true taste of
many ingredients.

Before the lockdown, staff at my local fish and chip shop thought it
strange that I never wanted salt or vinegar on my take away. In common
with a lot of similar establishment the amount of salt sprinkled on a
single portion of chips possibly exceeds the WHO annual consumption
recommendations.

Ironically, I never add salt to my food at the table, with the single
exception of adding salt and vinegar on takeaway fish and chips. (which
we might do once or twice a year). Although I prefer the generous
dousing in vinegar, and a touch of salt rather than the more often seen
alternative ratio.

Because of health reasons my mother never cooked with salt and never put
any on her food. I was brought up under this regime and 60 years later I
still do not add salt to any food. Obviously a lot of processed food is
smothered in the stuff and unfortunately I often find that the
overriding taste is this salt. It's a lot worse in many restaurants
where the cooks seem to think a unit of a pinch is a handful, and as can
be seen with many celebrity cooks on TV shows.

The problem is that too many people are addicted to the taste of salt
and any food without it tastes strange to them. I find that I can enjoy
the true taste of many ingredients without salt but when its added in
"common quantities" during cooking or afterwards it all starts to taste
the same. Could this be why a lot of people think things are bland
because there is no variation in the taste of the salt in what is on
their plates?

I suppose the logic is that is a flavour enhancer, but as you say, if
you are not accustomed to it, then its own flavour can swap many others.

I do occasionally enjoy a very spicy meal but not necessarily being
stupidly chilli hot.

What counts and stupidly hot for you though?


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On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people are
consuming.

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On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people are
consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.

If there is one thing the human body is very good at, its ditching salt.

Not having enough however leads to all sorts of damage


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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people are
consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.

If there is one thing the human body is very good at, its ditching salt.

which is why you can buy salt tablets to combat the effect of over sweating.

Not having enough however leads to all sorts of damage

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On 15/06/2020 13:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people are
consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.

There are options to a gym.

Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their running
machines you could run to the gym.




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On 15/06/2020 19:20, ARW wrote:
On 15/06/2020 13:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people are
consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.

There are options to a gym.

Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their running
machines you could run to the gym.



Irrelevant
My point is that exercise spikes BP. So does salt. Why not tell people
not to exercise?





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writes
On 15/06/2020 19:20, ARW wrote:
On 15/06/2020 13:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people
are consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.
There are options to a gym.
Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their
running machines you could run to the gym.


Irrelevant
My point is that exercise spikes BP. So does salt. Why not tell people
not to exercise?
What if you load up with salt and then exercise?

--
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On Monday, 15 June 2020 19:20:29 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
There are options to a gym.
Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their running
machines you could run to the gym.

Or you could stay at home and have vigorous sex and lots of it.

Owain

On Monday, 15 June 2020 12:26:23 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, tabbypurr wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy

indeed.

and that's what most people are
consuming.

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

I can pretty much predict the responses. Why not read up on it instead, or look on youtube.


NT

On 15/06/2020 21:58, wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.


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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:57:58 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

snip

The problem is that too many people are addicted to the taste of salt
and any food without it tastes strange to them. I find that I can enjoy
the true taste of many ingredients without salt but when its added in
"common quantities" during cooking or afterwards it all starts to taste
the same. Could this be why a lot of people think things are bland
because there is no variation in the taste of the salt in what is on
their plates?


The MIL was terrible for her use of salt. You would watch her applying
it before she'd even tasted the mean and it would go on and on.

We cut down a lot when it was pointed out it was an unnecessary risk
and at best I only put 'a pinch' (and that's really all it is) in with
boiled veg. The only other time I used to have it was on eggs
(especially boiled with dippy soldiers) but as we don't eat eggs any
more (not Vegan), that's not an issue.

Dad was similar with his application of pepper but I've not heard of
any heath risks associated with that.

But then he would sit and eat a jar of hot chili peppers as a snack so
he obviously liked his food hot / spicy. ;-)

We were a bit late eating tonight so I just did some vegan
'meatballs', rice and peas.

Cheers, T i m

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On Monday, 15 June 2020 12:26:23 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, tabbypurr wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy

indeed.

and that's what most people are
consuming.

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

Thats bull****.

I can pretty much predict the responses. Why not read up on it instead, or
look on youtube.

On 15/06/2020 21:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 15/06/2020 19:20, ARW wrote:
On 15/06/2020 13:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 12:26, alan_m wrote:
On 14/06/2020 23:56, wrote:

The problem is the notion that eating low salt is healthy. It's not.


Nor is very high salt intake healthy and that's what most people
areÂ* consuming.

Not really either. Yes if you down a load of salt your BP rises in a
short spike. So it does if you go to the gym.
Â*There are options to a gym.
Â*Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their
runningÂ* machines you could run to the gym.


Irrelevant
My point is that exercise spikes BP. So does salt. WhyÂ* not tell
people not to exercise?
What if you load up with salt and then exercise?

You don't get cramps



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On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and 'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science is mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall into this category.


NT

On 16/06/2020 16:27, wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and 'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science is mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall into this category.


But this is the NHS that we all meant to be saving! Is this another
example of the NHS not being fit for purpose?


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On 16/06/2020 16:45, alan_m wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:27, wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_mÂ* wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and
'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science
is mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall
into this category.


But this is the NHS that we all meant to be saving! Is this another
example of the NHS not being fit for purpose?


NHS dietary advice is written by food manufacturers.

Low fat + low salt is ********. What we need is low carbs, but wheat is
very very cheap....

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On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:45:49 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:27, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and 'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science is mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall into this category.


But this is the NHS that we all meant to be saving! Is this another
example of the NHS not being fit for purpose?

It's a lot better than nothing, but it's shameful compared to what it could be. People love it when they don't bother to get informed and find out how many cockups they're making - and the reality is most don't get informed. Most prefer to stay in the child mindset.


NT

On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:58:36 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:45, alan_m wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:27, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_mÂ* wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and
'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science
is mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall
into this category.


But this is the NHS that we all meant to be saving! Is this another
example of the NHS not being fit for purpose?


NHS dietary advice is written by food manufacturers.

Low fat + low salt is ********. What we need is low carbs, but wheat is
very very cheap....

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the total costs of each diet, ie food cost + healthcare costs + lost work cost for each option.


NT

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 16/06/2020 16:45, alan_m wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:27, wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many
food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and
'science' are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science is
mostly terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall into
this category.


But this is the NHS that we all meant to be saving! Is this another
example of the NHS not being fit for purpose?


NHS dietary advice is written by food manufacturers.

Low fat + low salt is ********. What we need is low carbs,

That hasnt been established and the Japanese do fine health
wise and their diet isn't low carbs.

but wheat is
very very cheap....

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wrote in message
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On Monday, 15 June 2020 22:20:51 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 15/06/2020 21:58, tabbypurr wrote:

Er, no. Most people don't get their optimum salt intake.

The problem is obviously going to get a lot worse than with so many food
manufacturers reducing the salt in their products, presumably as a
result of poor medial advice.

It's been a problem for decades. A lot of medical guidelines and 'science'
are in reality quite iffy. The standard of medical science is mostly
terrible. Most of the NHS's dietary advice seems to fall into this
category.

So where are you getting your story about the optimum salt intake from ?

On 15/06/2020 21:45, wrote:
On Monday, 15 June 2020 19:20:29 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
There are options to a gym.
Instead of driving to the gym and paying good money to use their running
machines you could run to the gym.

Or you could stay at home and have vigorous sex and lots of it.



Lou and myself still catching up on that missing 6 weeks....



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Adam