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I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided
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Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? There's a lot of good Chinese brands now, shipping decent soldering stations for not a huge amount of money. This gives a roundup: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/review...ons-and-tools/ You can also get good quality Wellers, Antexes, etc as in days of old, but you'll pay 5x the price of the Chinese - so if you spend the same budget the Chinese will be 5x better. EEVblog has a good forum discussing the pros and cons of lots of different models: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/ (EEVblog is Australian, but you should be able to buy these on ebay, Aliexpress, etc) Theo |
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On 01/06/2020 15:25, Theo wrote:
Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? There's a lot of good Chinese brands now, shipping decent soldering stations for not a huge amount of money. This gives a roundup: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/review...ons-and-tools/ You can also get good quality Wellers, Antexes, etc as in days of old, but you'll pay 5x the price of the Chinese - so if you spend the same budget the Chinese will be 5x better. EEVblog has a good forum discussing the pros and cons of lots of different models: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/ (EEVblog is Australian, but you should be able to buy these on ebay, Aliexpress, etc) Theo I think I got a draper for about £20 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-6147.../dp/B010823P38 Its not bad for electronics -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki" |
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There's a lot of good Chinese brands now, shipping decent soldering stations for not a huge amount of money. I've got a Yihua combined soldering station/hot air wand, good enough Problem may be shipping, chinese factories are back up and running, but getting the heavier items out of the country (eg PSUs) seems to be a bit of an issue still, the solder stations are pretty dense and most capacity being given to PPE |
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Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? CPC have quite a range, I have one of their 'Tenma' branded ones and (I think) another from them. Both are 60 watt with a display, cost a lot less than your £100 limit. I slightly prefer the Tenma one but there's not much in it. -- Chris Green · |
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On 01/06/2020 14:39, Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? -- Richard Not a soldering station - but Hakko make some very nice temperature-controlled irons for not a lot of money. In stained-glass work I'm using the FX-601 - which is rated 67w and has proper temperature control built into the handle (much better than the cheaper 'pretend-soldering-stations' which achieve some variation in temperature by limiting the power to the iron. The 601 is, unfortunately, 120v-only, but that's easily sorted - and there's a range of replacement bits of all shapes and sizes which are available from Hakko in the UK. Unfortunately the iron itself isn't CE-Marked (so can't be sold in the UK) - but there are many stateside suppliers selling them - think the last one I bought was 60 euro, plus 15euro p&p. Very nice little iron... |
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On 01/06/2020 14:39, Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? Also worth looking at the TS100 irons - they are processor controlled irons, with a good range of tips. Fast warm up (well under 10 secs!). They run from most laptop style power supplies. Ali express and the usual suspects will do the iron, a OSU, selection of tips etc, and change from £50 -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard :
I think I got a draper for about £20 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-6147.../dp/B010823P38 Its not bad for electronics A very basic model, just a dial to adjust the power level, no actual temperature feedback at all. I would suggest something a bit better. My Chinese 30w workbench iron has an LCD display, showing set temperature and actual temperature. You just dial in the temperature you want and it produces it - no burnt bits and power to spare. I took the precaution when I bought it 15 years ago, of buying some spare elements and bits. The bit is still the original, but the element failed some years ago. One feature it lacks, which I would have liked, was a standby mode which dropped the temperature 100deg or so, rather than having to change the desired temperature. It cost me around £45. |
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On 01/06/2020 14:39, Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? -- Richard One consideration is availability of spare tips or even heater replacement. For decades now I've made ny own Weller Magnastat tips (removing the Curie Point numbered switch actuators off old tips before dumping and reusing). 24V Heater I've never had to replace (at least 34 years old) -- Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm |
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On Monday, 1 June 2020 19:21:57 UTC+1, wrote:
The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard : I think I got a draper for about £20 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-6147.../dp/B010823P38 Its not bad for electronics A very basic model, just a dial to adjust the power level, no actual temperature feedback at all. I would suggest something a bit better. My Chinese 30w workbench iron has an LCD display, showing set temperature and actual temperature. You just dial in the temperature you want and it produces it - no burnt bits and power to spare. I took the precaution when I bought it 15 years ago, of buying some spare elements and bits. The bit is still the original, but the element failed some years ago. One feature it lacks, which I would have liked, was a standby mode which dropped the temperature 100deg or so, rather than having to change the desired temperature. It cost me around £45.. The Aldi offering had that. They dropped them to under a tenner at one point. |
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In article , Chris Green wrote:
Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? CPC have quite a range, I have one of their 'Tenma' branded ones and (I think) another from them. Both are 60 watt with a display, cost a lot less than your 100 limit. I slightly prefer the Tenma one but there's not much in it. I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...esd/dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. -- Richard |
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Richard Tobin wrote:
In article , Chris Green wrote: Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? CPC have quite a range, I have one of their 'Tenma' branded ones and (I think) another from them. Both are 60 watt with a display, cost a lot less than your 100 limit. I slightly prefer the Tenma one but there's not much in it. I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...esd/dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. I think that's the one I have, similar certainly, seems pretty OK. -- Chris Green · |
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On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 09:03:14 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...ation-digital- esd/dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. I think that's the one I have, similar certainly, seems pretty OK. I've one as well, does the job. The UI for adjusting the preset temperatures isn't, at least to my brain, quite intuative. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? Can't really recommend any, since I built my own combined solder/desolder station. Because there was nothing on the market then that did what I wanted. But a long time ago before cheap Chinese were common, and pro ones pricey. One thing I would make sure of. That all the spares you're likely to need - like a selection of different bits, sponges, etc are avaiable. So best to buy from the likes of CPC where you can check on spares. Other thing is what suits one person as a comfortable to use iron, another might hate. -- *He who laughs last, thinks slowest. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tuesday, 2 June 2020 14:16:00 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? Can't really recommend any, since I built my own combined solder/desolder station. Because there was nothing on the market then that did what I wanted. But a long time ago before cheap Chinese were common, and pro ones pricey. One thing I would make sure of. That all the spares you're likely to need - like a selection of different bits, sponges, etc are avaiable. So best to buy from the likes of CPC where you can check on spares. Other thing is what suits one person as a comfortable to use iron, another might hate. Sponges are available from your nearest homewares store. They pack cellulose sponges damp now so they don't go stiff & put buyers off. Check the small print, if it mentions going hard when dry it's cellulose. NT |
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On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 14:12:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
One thing I would make sure of. That all the spares you're likely to need - like a selection of different bits, sponges, etc are avaiable. That has been my problem in the past. So I splashed out on a Weller WT1010! -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 2:46:03 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 June 2020 14:16:00 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Richard Tobin wrote: I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? Can't really recommend any, since I built my own combined solder/desolder station. Because there was nothing on the market then that did what I wanted. But a long time ago before cheap Chinese were common, and pro ones pricey. One thing I would make sure of. That all the spares you're likely to need - like a selection of different bits, sponges, etc are avaiable. So best to buy from the likes of CPC where you can check on spares. Other thing is what suits one person as a comfortable to use iron, another might hate. Sponges are available from your nearest homewares store. They pack cellulose sponges damp now so they don't go stiff & put buyers off. Check the small print, if it mentions going hard when dry it's cellulose. NT These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... and I think the reduced thermal shock is a good thing. |
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Richard Tobin wrote:
I am about to undertake a small electronics project and have decided that it's time to replace the soldering iron that I bought some time in the 1980s. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced soldering station (around 100 pounds at most)? -- Richard Ive a couple of the clone ones off EBay. My favourite uses T12 bits. The T12 bit is like a knitting needle but the element is inside. The whole thing slides into a handle. You buy different bits for different sized jobs. I think mine- complete with a couple of bits- was about £32. The PSU is about the size of a laptop PSU and has a temp display etc. I never thought I would find something to surpass my Weller but this beast is a delight to use. -- https://www.unitedway.org/our-impact...an-trafficking |
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Theo wrote: There's a lot of good Chinese brands now, shipping decent soldering stations for not a huge amount of money. I've got a Yihua combined soldering station/hot air wand, good enough Finding the right element is a s*d. Yihua seem to be unique. I want to have at least one in stock. Otherwise, they are good. -- https://www.unitedway.org/our-impact...an-trafficking |
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Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 14:12:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: One thing I would make sure of. That all the spares you're likely to need - like a selection of different bits, sponges, etc are avaiable. That has been my problem in the past. So I splashed out on a Weller WT1010! Weller were always the business but the Chinese ones are remarkable and the bits are a fraction of the price of Weller ones. -- https://www.unitedway.org/our-impact...an-trafficking |
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Richard Tobin wrote: I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...esd/dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. -- Richard |
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 13:39:18 +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article , Richard Tobin wrote: I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...n-digital-esd/ dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. Must get on with mine. But I'm still fiddling with the case on the PiDP-8. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 04/06/2020 14:39, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article , Richard Tobin wrote: I've ordered one of these: https://cpc.farnell.com/tenma/21-101...esd/dp/SD01738 I'll report back on how well it works. And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. what was the starting point? -- Richard -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. what was the starting point? A Raspberry Pi and a bag full of bits. -- Richard |
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On 04/06/2020 15:27, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. what was the starting point? A Raspberry Pi and a bag full of bits. -- Richard Ahaha! Retromodding a Pi eh? -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. what was the starting point? A Raspberry Pi and a bag full of bits. -- Richard Ahaha! Retromodding a Pi eh? https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 -- Richard |
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jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... -- *I yell because I care Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 15:34:59 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/06/2020 15:27, Richard Tobin wrote: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: And the answer is... adequately. After a few hundred soldered joints, I now have something resembling a PDP-11/70. what was the starting point? A Raspberry Pi and a bag full of bits. -- Richard Ahaha! Retromodding a Pi eh? PiDP-11 kit. Well know, I thought. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:31:16 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... or do the old dodge of unplugging right before soldering. Glad those days are gone. |
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On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 4:31:16 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n |
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jkn wrote: On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 4:31:16 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... -- *Happiness is seeing your mother-in-law on a milk carton Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Cursitor Doom wrote: Whilst it's inexcusable to hold a man down in this way, the fact that he was high on crystal meth would have given him extra strength and aggression requiring rather more containment than usual. Nice to know you are an expert on meth too. -- *Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 12:23:30 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 4:31:16 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... Yes, I do - under supervision. Like all 'rules' (and science), it is an approximation to the truth, to be refined as time goes on and the situation changes. "I will push you in the buggy across the road" "Never go farther than the pavement" "Never Cross the road on your own" "make sure that you look left and right, and keep looking and listening" "Who's going to get to the park first?" ... "Can you help me cross the road, Son?" J^n |
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On 06/06/2020 12:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: Whilst it's inexcusable to hold a man down in this way, the fact that he was high on crystal meth would have given him extra strength and aggression requiring rather more containment than usual. Nice to know you are an expert on meth too. thanks .... |
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jkn wrote: Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... Yes, I do - under supervision. Like all 'rules' (and science), it is an approximation to the truth, to be refined as time goes on and the situation changes. But stupid as an example for your son. It has been practice for many a year to use a damp sponge to wipe a soldering iron on. -- *If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 3:49:23 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... Yes, I do - under supervision. Like all 'rules' (and science), it is an approximation to the truth, to be refined as time goes on and the situation changes. But stupid as an example for your son. Tut tut - bad (and incorrect) assumption there... It has been practice for many a year to use a damp sponge to wipe a soldering iron on. I am well aware of that, having done it since around 1980... |
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wrote: snip It has been practice for many a year to use a damp sponge to wipe a soldering iron on. I had such on my Weller soldering station for years and it worked well but they would often get lost if I ever took my soldering stuff elsewhere. I now use the pot of brass turnings and now prefer them as they seem to do more of the tip and probably don't take so much heat out of it. I assembled a little 10+10W amp kit last night with my s/h Aoyue 968A+ [1] s-station but (ironically) couldn't find my tip cleaning pot. I used some damp folded up kitchen towel instead and it worked 'ok'. I bought a little FM radio kit for daughter (to listen to R4 as she's dog walking) and I was going to get her to build it herself (she was soldering with me when she was 5 g) but 1) I want to do it now and 2) I think it might be a bit fiddly for someone not into electronics as such [2]. Cheers, T i m [1] I can get compatible spares for it locally. [2] On the amp kit there were a couple of component substitutions (a 3k3 as opposed to a 3k4 for example) and one incorrectly marked on the parts list but right on the schematic (1.2 not the 12K shown) that you might only know how to deal with if you knew roughly how things worked. |
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On 06/06/2020 15:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... Yes, I do - under supervision. Like all 'rules' (and science), it is an approximation to the truth, to be refined as time goes on and the situation changes. But stupid as an example for your son. It has been practice for many a year to use a damp sponge to wipe a soldering iron on. It has, but many now go for the "pan scourer" style in preference... they seem better at cleaning the flux residue that one tends to get at the higher soldering temps required for lead free work. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Soldering station
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 12:22:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , jkn wrote: On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 4:31:16 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , jkn wrote: These days I prefer to use the 'pads' of brass turnings for cleaning an iron, rather than wet sponges. Saves having to mix water and electrickery... If your iron is leaking to that extent, I'd stay well clear of working on electronics... Hi Dave Not sure I said anywhere that my iron was leaking ... just that I prefer not to mix the two. In fact it is also because an 11-year old is watching me and the 'rule' I have (currently) passed on is that 'water and electricity don't mix'. I'll go back to soldering 0805s now if you don't mind... J^n Any decent soldering iron will be low voltage anyway. Hope you don't let your 11 year old fill an electric kettle... Bloody hell. At that age if I hadn't got the fire going in the morning before I went to school it would have gone out, and if I didn't get the dinner on the go when I got back we'd be eating late. -- AnthonyL Why do scientists need to BELIEVE in anything? |
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