On 12/05/2020 14:17, John wrote:
People would call a plumber to fix a central heating system - but is much
of their formal training allocated to things like Boiler Logic, Heat
calculations, Flow rates, etc.

After lending an ear to a couple of pal's woes - I wonder if they even knew
how a heating system works.

I was perhaps fortunate in having a potty mouthed fitter who had been
trained and approved by a boiler firm - and evidenced by him uploading data
to register the job for the warranty. I was impressed also by his
calculations for gas flow taking into acount pipe lengths and bends.

The builder who built our extension 15 years ago used an old school
plumber to create a complicated lead valley.

Do many modern plumbers also have this skill?

Mike

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Muddymike wrote:
The builder who built our extension 15 years ago used an old school
plumber to create a complicated lead valley.

Do many modern plumbers also have this skill?

Lead working for roofs and fixing lead pipes are rather different skills.
Of course as with many skills they can overlap somewhat.

I remember as a kid many firms were plumbers and electricians. Never did
find out why the two should have been thought to be similar.

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In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
The builder who built our extension 15 years ago used an old school
plumber to create a complicated lead valley.

Do many modern plumbers also have this skill?

Lead working for roofs and fixing lead pipes are rather different skills.
Of course as with many skills they can overlap somewhat.

I remember as a kid many firms were plumbers and electricians. Never did
find out why the two should have been thought to be similar.

At the turn of the 20th century, before standardisation, from looking at old
photographs, there were plenty of high street outfits that serviced all three
utilities, gas, water, and electricity. As well as being hardware shops
to boot some of them. Each town or suburb would have a few such outfits who
people or landlords would go to, who employed all sorts of tradesmen; maybe
glaziers as well.

Same as later. You often got shops selling both radios and bicycles for some
reason. And maybe charging radio accumulators to boot. From memeory that
may have been how Curry's started.


michael adams

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
The builder who built our extension 15 years ago used an old school
plumber to create a complicated lead valley.

Do many modern plumbers also have this skill?

Lead working for roofs and fixing lead pipes are rather different skills.
Of course as with many skills they can overlap somewhat.

I remember as a kid many firms were plumbers and electricians. Never did
find out why the two should have been thought to be similar.

Was threading conduit any different from threading water pipes (before the
age of copper)?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:10:06 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
You often got shops selling both radios and bicycles for some
reason. And maybe charging radio accumulators to boot.

In Edinburgh there is the world famous Borland's Darts and Television

https://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/borlands-...hops-edinburgh

Now offering key cutting as well :-)

Owain

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michael adams wrote:

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Same as later. You often got shops selling both radios and bicycles for
some reason. And maybe charging radio accumulators to boot. From memeory
that may have been how Curry's started.

In the west of Scotland such shops also sold fishing tackle

Yes, Curry's was originally a cycle shop. My first "grown up" bicycle came
from them.

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from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 13/05/2020 14:04, Muddymike wrote:
On 12/05/2020 14:17, John wrote:
People would call a plumber to fix a central heating system - but is much
of their formal training allocated to things like Boiler Logic, Heat
calculations, Flow rates, etc.

After lending an ear to a couple of pal's woes - I wonder if they even
knew
how a heating system works.

I was perhaps fortunate in having a potty mouthed fitter who had been
trained and approved by a boiler firm - and evidenced by him uploading
data
to register the job for the warranty. I was impressed also by his
calculations for gas flow taking into acount pipe lengths and bends.

The builder who built our extension 15 years ago used an old school
plumber to create a complicated lead valley.

Do many modern plumbers also have this skill?

Quite possibly...

One of my customers was a long time served plumber, but he got out of
actual plumbing and into teaching when his knees had had enough!

He taught various C&G plumbing courses at the local college. He said
many of the students got a bit miffed that the plumbing courses still
included quite substantial amounts of lead burning and roof work (box
gutters, flat roofs, and also flashings etc)


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Cheers,

John.

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